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LWolf

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132. Am I the only DUer who remembers,

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 12:44 PM

Jun 2015

back before DU 3, when DU self-identified as a "left-wing" discussion board?

Now DUers think it's okay to attack, marginalize, and disenfranchise the left.

THAT'S what neoliberalism gets us.

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"A letter to my dismal allies on the US left" [View all] BainsBane Jun 2015 OP

...... daleanime Jun 2015 #1

Better to read the original article BainsBane Jun 2015 #2

bookmarked daleanime Jun 2015 #4

who the hell has time to read it all by anonymous Rebecca? wordpix Jul 2015 #207

She isn't annonymous BainsBane Jul 2015 #210

Huge K&R... SidDithers Jun 2015 #3

This applies pretty widely around here. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #5

So, in this nearly three year old piece... a la izquierda Jun 2015 #6

I didn't realize it was old BainsBane Jun 2015 #7

It certainly isn't any more helpful either. Nt a la izquierda Jun 2015 #12

You found this "more humorous than bitter"? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #84

I'm glad someone saw the irony. merrily Jun 2015 #87

"With generosity, kindness and style" gratuitous Jun 2015 #8

Her point is not that you shouldn't stand up for principle BainsBane Jun 2015 #11

But she neatly absolves herself of the opposite gratuitous Jun 2015 #16

That quote was from Michael Eric Dyson BainsBane Jun 2015 #20

Which she quoted with approval, and adopted as her own argument gratuitous Jun 2015 #21

Actually it's not about discussion BainsBane Jun 2015 #26

Gratuitous is right Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #42

Sensible woodchucks told the LGBT community to STFU in 2009. Prism Jun 2015 #9

Kind of like how people today BainsBane Jun 2015 #10

This author doesn't much like the Left Prism Jun 2015 #15

I'm not so sure about that. lovemydog Jun 2015 #78

Exactly. That kind of faulty logic is what the GOP uses to say that Democrats "hate America" nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #106

+1 merrily Jun 2015 #88

The author was talking about the "cartoonish" black and white thinking R B Garr Jun 2015 #107

Who told "women and people of color to shut the fuck up"? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #95

Yeah, I haven't seen that here. It would have been hidden had someone actually said it. polly7 Jun 2015 #98

Hidden? You sure? I've seen people tell others to f**k off, and R B Garr Jun 2015 #104

Really! That's quite a story! But, where have you seen what she stated was said? nt. polly7 Jun 2015 #113

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #149

What does that have to do with the claim made here? polly7 Jun 2015 #150

What are you trying to do by denying that language is used here R B Garr Jun 2015 #151

I said that her claim can't be found here. polly7 Jun 2015 #152

Post removed Post removed Jun 2015 #153

My deceased son. polly7 Jun 2015 #154

Understanble after all the stalking and harrassment she got. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #156

Don't get drawn into this sick shit. You'll get a hide for it. nt. polly7 Jun 2015 #157

Maybe, but I don't like the bullying behavior in that thread. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #159

The bullying I can handle, it's knowing they'll resort to the lowest thing polly7 Jun 2015 #161

Yeah, I was thinking I might have noticed if somebody said that. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #121

It is apparently implied by typing "Go Bernie" lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #108

"A code that only the truly enlightened can see." NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #122

Oh, look! Another Loyalty Oath appeal! Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #13

No, it is about enacting change BainsBane Jun 2015 #17

I like to vote for the candidates who best represent what I believe in. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #19

Whatever. How you vote is your business. BainsBane Jun 2015 #46

That's exactly what it is. Aerows Jul 2015 #212

Thank you for the post, oh (presumed non-dismal) ally on the left. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #14

And many on the left are NOT that way all. madfloridian Jun 2015 #65

I did qualify with the word many. But perhaps the word some would guillaumeb Jun 2015 #184

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #18

If you are third way, I am not your ally. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #22

Funny you should bring that up BainsBane Jun 2015 #23

Quoting moles probably does not help your argument. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #28

Perhaps you should tell that person she is a mole to her face BainsBane Jun 2015 #31

+1 n/t JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #56

You have that completely backwards. ieoeja Jun 2015 #164

Dear Rebecca. This "rancid sector of the far left" member says I don't want to be your ally. Autumn Jun 2015 #24

Nicely written and I totally agree. a la izquierda Jun 2015 #44

^^^Brilliant! ^^^ RiverLover Jun 2015 #57

Wow. madfloridian Jun 2015 #82

Heh. Yes. nt F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #94

But why? Mnpaul Jun 2015 #96

co-signed. FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #123

+1 DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #163

Eeyup. Agree with every word, Autumn! nt hifiguy Jul 2015 #214

I miss the unrec button. Scuba Jun 2015 #25

K&R She was kinda all over the board but I agree in spirit. raouldukelives Jun 2015 #27

It's a good philosophy for life actually. BainsBane Jun 2015 #32

Agree with you and g above. Love and empathy get more done. Cynicism supports the status quo. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #36

"If we only leave the Third Wayers alone, they'll start helping us." MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #29

Where is that quote in the article? BainsBane Jun 2015 #33

Once again, Manny, you cut through the BS hifiguy Jun 2015 #35

You're giving the OP too much credit Prism Jun 2015 #39

And that is just Standard Operational Bullshit lately. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #47

I wouldn't say that. MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #52

Yep, too true. n/t demmiblue Jun 2015 #129

Pompous and arrogant garbage. n/t sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #30

Good stuff. A DUer wrote something similar wyldwolf Jun 2015 #34

Europeans have a better grasp of their history. I remember one of our posters who detailed the Nazi freshwest Jun 2015 #38

Excellent piece. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #37

Excellent piece-o-shit whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #54

This is reminiscent of the prequel to the death of the Sixties. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #40

The author flails at strawmen Martin Eden Jun 2015 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #43

Rebecca Solnit. Love her. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #45

She uses the words "rancid" "radical" "dismal" to refer to the left and liberals. madfloridian Jun 2015 #48

I work in CA left-wing activist circles, as does she Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #60

It is like the Left's version of Anne Coulter. Hiraeth Jun 2015 #117

Mask...off. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #115

Yours? I agree. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #119

No. Yours. FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #124

Bless your heart. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #126

Jeebus...the long knives came out quick.....nt msanthrope Jun 2015 #180

Eh, I rate this at two and a half red stars. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #182

I think you just described the Eyore wing of the farthest Left perfectly...... msanthrope Jul 2015 #197

I was just noticing that the left's rhetoric has shifted away from "there is no difference" to... aikoaiko Jun 2015 #49

I see a lot of "there is no difference" BainsBane Jun 2015 #50

Another simpleminded tool blathers on about "leftists"... whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #53

She is a leftist activist BainsBane Jun 2015 #72

I read it and wish I hadn't n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #103

Anyone who insults the left in this way is no ally of mine Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #55

Agreed. madfloridian Jun 2015 #64

The author is a leftist activist BainsBane Jun 2015 #69

A plea? F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #99

^ Recommended, I read the article, I agree 100% with your assessment^ Autumn Jun 2015 #102

Your post should be an OP BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #167

I will. F4lconF16 Jul 2015 #189

Let me know when you do BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #190

What I believe in is not and has never been what the Democratic Party platform has been based on. F4lconF16 Jul 2015 #191

I think you are saying what a lot of us feel BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #199

I have a feeling within 20 years or so you'll be seeing some new politics here, too. ;) F4lconF16 Jul 2015 #205

You smacked that one Aerows Jul 2015 #208

Thanks, Aerows. F4lconF16 Jul 2015 #209

It is excellent Aerows Jul 2015 #213

Well her article is a nasty critique itself Bjorn Against Jun 2015 #100

Old but relevant JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #58

"generosity and kindness and style" -- these are qualities I've always thought betsuni Jun 2015 #59

Wow seems much of the party folks are dead serious about the "rancid" left. madfloridian Jun 2015 #61

You obviously missed the point entirely BainsBane Jun 2015 #68

I know who she is. I have read many of her works. That one was done in anger.... madfloridian Jun 2015 #73

No, it's about people who dismiss the results of activism BainsBane Jun 2015 #74

Most liberals I know work to make the "world a better place." madfloridian Jun 2015 #75

She isn't discussing liberals BainsBane Jun 2015 #76

They fear us because we vote in such high numbers in elections. Rex Jun 2015 #71

Generosity, kindness and style reminded me of this. betsuni Jun 2015 #92

Did any of you think you might someday want those "dismal" "rancid" liberals as allies? madfloridian Jun 2015 #62

Yes, because as the brilliant Michael Eric Dyson says: lovemydog Jun 2015 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #66

They don't like us, we are the group that votes for the POTUS 80 - 90% of the time. Rex Jun 2015 #70

Jury results. edbermac Jun 2015 #67

Boy, that was one UPSET alerter Number23 Jun 2015 #77

How condescending. "the poor darling" madfloridian Jun 2015 #83

It's not an attack on me. And it's not an attack on anyone that can clearly read and understand Number23 Jun 2015 #85

Read this paragraph again...let the ugliness sink in. madfloridian Jun 2015 #89

I can read it 100 times and still not feel attacked. But then I'm not really trying to either. Number23 Jun 2015 #91

I'm surprised anyone thinks this is an attack on the entire left. betsuni Jun 2015 #90

Do you think any portion of the Left should be attacked like this? madfloridian Jun 2015 #116

Tell that to Glenn Greenwald, Nader, Cornell West, Tavis Smiley, Jane Hamsher, AND... stevenleser Jun 2015 #148

There are bad things and they are bad. There are good things and they are good joshcryer Jun 2015 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #81

Defending this paragraph... madfloridian Jun 2015 #80

.....! KoKo Jun 2015 #111

Lesser of two evils makes the point JonLP24 Jun 2015 #86

Condescending bullshit, F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #93

You have to reach back to 2012 for hippie-punching material? marmar Jun 2015 #97

if, hypethetically, the party became corrupt, this attitude HFRN Jun 2015 #101

Yes, hypothetically. kath Jun 2015 #145

She must read DU. Perfect description. nt sufrommich Jun 2015 #105

Good read. Interesting to see an activist on the left atacked like this here. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #109

There's that "purity" stuff again. madfloridian Jun 2015 #120

Please read all of the replies. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #125

"to try and malign a good and active progressive" madfloridian Jun 2015 #127

"Works both ways. " NCTraveler Jun 2015 #128

Demanding inaction = "activist" lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #130

I understand she doesn't rise to your level of activism... NCTraveler Jun 2015 #131

"Shut up, you pony-wanting hippies!" is action of a sort, I suppose. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #133

Then you are commenting about a person you know nothing about. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #134

I don't know her personally. But she's an archetype of a type of "liberal" I run into all too often. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2015 #136

We just got to the bottom of it. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #138

It's so disgusting to see the same party sycophants Marr Jun 2015 #110

^^This!^^ BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #168

The Very Sensible People taking a victory lap over the same-sex marriage decision.. frylock Jun 2015 #175

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #198

"Dismissiveness is a way of disengaging," says the oblivious author. n/t Orsino Jun 2015 #112

^^^this^^^ progressoid Jun 2015 #118

what a pompous gasbag. nt m-lekktor Jun 2015 #114

Am I the only DUer who remembers, LWolf Jun 2015 #132

No, it is not attacking the entire left BainsBane Jun 2015 #135

Or it's simply re-defining LWolf Jun 2015 #137

Let me understand this BainsBane Jun 2015 #140

So you say these ugly words are okay against "some" activists? madfloridian Jun 2015 #139

Piece of shit used car salesman BainsBane Jun 2015 #141

Whoa, never mind. madfloridian Jun 2015 #142

I take that as a clear acknowledgement BainsBane Jun 2015 #143

No, I take it that you're hurting and angry. madfloridian Jun 2015 #144

Your objection to this OP was that it is hurtful BainsBane Jun 2015 #178

What ARE you talking about? Where are you getting all that. madfloridian Jun 2015 #183

Hey Bains-- ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #146

Agreed. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #158

+1 Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #160

"Butt hurt?" City Lights Jun 2015 #170

No shit BainsBane Jun 2015 #181

Thanks, Ism BainsBane Jun 2015 #179

+1... SidDithers Jul 2015 #202

Here's a difference. Marr Jun 2015 #165

Spot on. polly7 Jun 2015 #166

Well said! nt City Lights Jun 2015 #171

WTF are you talking about? BainsBane Jun 2015 #174

Ah some condescending grade A bullshit nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #147

... SidDithers Jul 2015 #203

I am glad that amuses you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #211

Answer to the letter writer: sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #155

We pretty much did just this for the 2014 cycle Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #162

I love it when conservatives out themselves on DU BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #169

This article is some kind of Rorschach test. betsuni Jun 2015 #172

And a reading comprehension test. betsuni Jun 2015 #188

I know, right? nt BainsBane Jul 2015 #204

I found this to be humorously hypocritical. bvar22 Jun 2015 #173

She is on the left BainsBane Jun 2015 #177

This is driving me nuts. SECTOR SECTOR SECTOR SECTOR. Right smack at the top of the article. betsuni Jun 2015 #187

OMFG. Phlem Jun 2015 #176

who on earth is this person? MisterP Jun 2015 #185

Rebecca Solnit BainsBane Jul 2015 #201

Does anyone here think Democrats are not liberal? Some may be moderate liberals and some are Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #186

Ponies? Do you *really* want to bring up Ponies at this particular moment? Fumesucker Jul 2015 #192

"looked to be an impossible dream in 2012" joshcryer Jul 2015 #193

I've been pro gay marriage ever since I was aware it was an issue Fumesucker Jul 2015 #194

So have I, but I still supported Dean. joshcryer Jul 2015 #195

"It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare." Fumesucker Jul 2015 #196

"Compared to you, Eeyore sounds like a Teletubby."... SidDithers Jul 2015 #200

who is this "Rebecca?" She can't bother to sign her last name? wordpix Jul 2015 #206

She did sign her last name BainsBane Jul 2015 #216

Kick. nt Bonobo Jul 2015 #215