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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:33 PM Jun 2015

So, President Obama has signed the TPA and TAA Today [View all]

Fast track for TPP and other trade agreements is on, officially. So, what should DUers do about this?

Here's what: Learn what is in the final version of the TPP agreement when it is released. Then communicate your concerns or opinion to your congressional representative and Senators. They'll be voting whether or not to accept the agreements within 90 days of the final version being presented to them.

If you don't like what you see, once you can actually see the agreement, tell your Congress people to vote No on it. If you do like it, on the whole, tell them to vote Yes.

See, they have to vote to approve it or reject it. They can't pile on amendments or delay the agreement. Repubicans can't add anti-choice measures or their favorite amendments. Neither can Democrats. They can only vote for or against the agreement that has been negotiated by a multi-national group of nations, including the United States.

So, as soon as it the agreement is released in its final form, study it or listen to people you trust who will be studying it, and then make your wishes known.

That's how it works.

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Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #1
Absolutely. People should inform themselves. MineralMan Jun 2015 #3
+1. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #7
Unless people "consciously work at it", this is hard to do in today's corporate media environment. cascadiance Jun 2015 #15
You people have no idea how government "works" Agony Jun 2015 #2
Care to define "you people"? bunnies Jun 2015 #4
It means "everyone with whom I think I disagree," I think. MineralMan Jun 2015 #6
Indeed. bunnies Jun 2015 #8
"You people" is meaningless. MineralMan Jun 2015 #5
While this sounds great, sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #9
Yep, a single amendment can kill an international agreement. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #10
Work to defeat it. mmonk Jun 2015 #11
I'll wait until the entire agreement can be studied. MineralMan Jun 2015 #19
When will agreements be ready? fadedrose Jun 2015 #12
I have no idea. The agreement is not MineralMan Jun 2015 #17
Yes, with Republican majorities in both houses, and no filibuster, it'll totally be stopped jeff47 Jun 2015 #13
Haha, ^THIS^ n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #14
Truth. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #16
Do you have a better suggestion than MineralMan Jun 2015 #18
Yes, primaries. jeff47 Jun 2015 #20
That solution is always available. MineralMan Jun 2015 #21
Any energy to elect more people? joshcryer Jun 2015 #28
We didn't "get rid of the ones" in 2010. jeff47 Jun 2015 #40
Yes, those were the cheers in 2010. joshcryer Jun 2015 #46
Blue dogs are not the universal result. jeff47 Jun 2015 #47
COICA, SOPA and PIPA, were all stopped. joshcryer Jun 2015 #26
What a ridiculous post, even for DU's version of Dr. Pangloss. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #22
Not at all. That is exactly how to proceed at this point. MineralMan Jun 2015 #23
What you've posted is rank nonsense; TPP will pass easily, and everybody knows it. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #24
So, you have no alternative action to suggest? MineralMan Jun 2015 #25
Your side won, which is why these bromides are so nonsensical. You aren't "doing" anything to ensure Romulox Jun 2015 #27
I have taken no position on the TPP. MineralMan Jun 2015 #30
You support the powerful over the powerless at every turn. Your position is transparent. nt Romulox Jun 2015 #35
+1 Marr Jun 2015 #39
Do I? See, once again, you demonstrate that you really MineralMan Jun 2015 #41
I intend to read the agreement, and I know a few lawyers who can translate if necessary. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #29
I doubt if I will have time to read the whole thing. MineralMan Jun 2015 #32
A lot of documents have portions that are necessary legal ruffles and flourishes. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #36
Leaked drafts are useless. I haven't even bothered. MineralMan Jun 2015 #38
Given the size of the objections to Fast Track, which were completely ignored, djean111 Jun 2015 #31
They weren't ignored by everyone. MineralMan Jun 2015 #33
Thank you for a calm, rational, realistic perspective. yallerdawg Jun 2015 #34
Difficult as it is sometimes, I try to work with what is, rather MineralMan Jun 2015 #42
I wonder if it would be possible to set up a group to read portions of the TPP and report on it? Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #37
I'm sure there will be several such groups. MineralMan Jun 2015 #44
How do you know we will even see it before they vote on it? WDIM Jun 2015 #43
Yes, OK. I see you've given up, then. MineralMan Jun 2015 #45
Oh yes, they totally listen to us, all the time. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #48
Al Franken, Amy Klobuchar and Betty McCollum appear MineralMan Jun 2015 #49
Bwahahahahahahaaa. progressoid Jun 2015 #50
So, what's your suggestion on how to proceed? MineralMan Jun 2015 #51
Based on who supports TPP, we don't need to 'wait and see' to know it's a steaming pant-load. progressoid Jun 2015 #52
So, you have no suggestion about what DUers should do? MineralMan Jun 2015 #53
Join Warren and Franken to oppose it. progressoid Jun 2015 #54
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