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Response to cali (Reply #16)

Wed May 16, 2012, 04:51 AM

43. I don't see it as bigotry

The author doesn't claim that all Mormons are brainwashed. Here is the claim:

They call themselves Christians, but they have so thoroughly brainwashed their members that anything the church says…goes. No matter how much Mitt Romney says he would keep his church separate from Government, and how he would never let the church come in and run Government, commands of the church come first and foremost in Mormon minds.


What the author is saying is that enough Mormons are brainwashed into mindlessly following the church leadership. There is plenty of evidence of this even outside what the author claims. The author is not claiming that every single Mormon is a zombie.

The author is not making an issue out of the fact that Romney doesn't talk about Joseph Smith. He's including facts about Mormon history because it's important to understand Mormonism if you want to understand Romney as the two are inseparably linked. Utah was founded as a theocracy, and it still is today. The suggestion that the LDS church would like to expand that authority beyond Utah's borders is not without merit.

Calling Mormonism a dangerous cult is not bigotry. You may not agree that Mormonism is a cult, but it's pretty hard to deny the evidence that suggests it is. 1) Mormons aren't any more Christians than Jews or Muslims, and they are more cult-like than any of those religions. Christianity is not dominated by any one source of leadership. If a Catholic is unhappy with Catholic leadership, they are quite free to become a Baptist. If a Baptist is not happy with Baptist leadership, they are free to become a Methodist, and so on. Judaism is not dominated by any one source of leadership and the same can be said for Islam. You can't say that about Mormonism or at least the LDS version of Mormonism which is by far the most predominate. 2) 90% of Mormons tithe. Even if you compare this to the hardest core Christians you can find, there is no comparison. Nowhere in Christianity will you find anything like this. Now certainly it is possible that 90% of Mormons are just so happy with their religion that they freely and willingly tie a certain (significant) percentage of their income back to the church, but I think a more logical interpretation of this is that Mormonism demands an extreme level of commitment which is most decidedly cult-like. 3) Mormons are obsessed with bringing in new members. By the LDS's own admission, they have over 50,000 missionaries at any one time. At first this may not seem like a whole lot. The Catholic church alone has easily twice that many at any one time. However, the Catholic church has over 1 billion members compared to about 14 million Mormons. So the Catholic church is 71 times larger than the LDS church, yet has only twice as many missionaries. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm. Outside of cults, no other religion I know of is so obsessed with bringing in new members. 4) The LDS church preaches "Salvation through Works". This by itself is not necessarily indicative of a cult. Lots of different religions and denominations of various religions preach this. However, when you look at the expectations of this service which is indoctrinated into the Mormon faith, you can't help but draw comparisons to cults.

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