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Skinner

(63,645 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 04:09 PM Jun 2015

Ken Burns: Confederate flag isn't about heritage. It's about resistance to civil rights. [View all]

Interesting point about SC articles of secession.

Ken Burns, the documentarian behind PBS's acclaimed The Civil War series, blasted the myth that the Confederate flag isn't a symbol of racism and white supremacy during a Thursday appearance on MSNBC's Morning Joe.

"I think what happens is that we build up over time the sense of an excuse about why it came," Burns said. "If you read … South Carolina's articles of secession in November — after Lincoln's election of 1860 — they don't mention states' rights, they don't mention nullification. They mention slavery over and over again."

He later added, "Those (Confederate) flags came in after Brown v. Board of Education. This is not about heritage. This is about resistance to civil rights."

More: http://www.vox.com/2015/6/25/8846879/ken-burns-civil-war

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DURec leftstreet Jun 2015 #1
K&R Coventina Jun 2015 #2
It's about resistance to civil rights. Faux pas Jun 2015 #3
Yes. Round Up The Racists billhicks76 Jun 2015 #48
K & R. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #4
Absolutely. The reincarnation of States' Rights is the Tenther Movement. freshwest Jun 2015 #5
Exactly! Spazito Jun 2015 #6
Ken Burns is unparalleled on Southern commentary Prism Jun 2015 #7
I have every episode except it's all on VHS .. love watching it. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #70
He's right. That whole "heritage" crap came about during the Southern Strategy arcane1 Jun 2015 #8
Yes, it's all about the Southern Strategy. winter is coming Jun 2015 #18
Belligerence Gregorian Jun 2015 #9
Nailed it. nt daredtowork Jun 2015 #10
I concur RobertEarl Jun 2015 #11
He hit the bull's eye Aerows Jun 2015 #12
I say more like the b.s. eye. kairos12 Jun 2015 #13
What does he know...he's just a very smart, learned and talented historical filmmaker joeybee12 Jun 2015 #14
Wish Burns would zentrum Jun 2015 #15
+1 eShirl Jun 2015 #49
Right on target. abakan Jun 2015 #16
I was a child in the sixties in the south TNNurse Jun 2015 #17
I had two uncles (by marriage) from the South. maddiemom Jun 2015 #65
It's really about both. BKH70041 Jun 2015 #19
It's very simple Matrosov Jun 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jun 2015 #36
When you have a question about history, ask a Historian! Seems simple, what did they mean by Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #21
This is a VERY interesting post. I have one (little) editing suggestion though.. annabanana Jun 2015 #28
Normally do when close to done, but got a call from my 78 year old mom who let Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #31
lol.. real life DOES get in the way sometimes!. . .n/t annabanana Jun 2015 #32
That's why nature abhors a vacuum Orrex Jun 2015 #51
Isn't there a vacuum cleaner brand that sounds like your handle? Demeter Jun 2015 #53
That's why I abhor them. Orrex Jun 2015 #55
Me too Demeter Jun 2015 #57
Actually I find that I also tend to write one long paragraph when posting back and forth, maddiemom Jun 2015 #63
maybe because annabanana Jun 2015 #68
So true. ananda Jun 2015 #22
In 1964, a Confederate flag flew in front of SF City Hall Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #23
I know it's true but but many people would have a hard time believing it, unfortunately. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #66
Yep. potone Jun 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Jun 2015 #37
Always has been. Nitram Jun 2015 #74
Recommend! KoKo Jun 2015 #25
I am glad someone finally had the guts to say it! Rex Jun 2015 #26
K & R! Ken Burns the brilliant documentary historian ges it 100% correct. It was about appalachiablue Jun 2015 #27
BINGO! wendylaroux Jun 2015 #29
I will file this one in rufus dog Jun 2015 #30
K&R Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #33
Republicans are always trying to rewrite history. nt SunSeeker Jun 2015 #34
Heritage is a word I do not understand. FiveGoodMen Jun 2015 #35
Well fucking said BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #38
Thanks Skinner.. how true. Cha Jun 2015 #39
Kicking AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #40
KnR Hekate Jun 2015 #41
K&Rnt stage left Jun 2015 #42
I find the use of the word 'heritage' itself to be loaded with bad intent, as the actual meaning Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #43
What's in a flag? nikto Jun 2015 #44
K & R Iliyah Jun 2015 #45
'specially since it's always the naval flag ... MisterP Jun 2015 #46
K&R blackspade Jun 2015 #47
Excellent post. Thanks, skinner! octoberlib Jun 2015 #50
It's about keeping people in their places...under white man's heel Demeter Jun 2015 #52
Amazing article in The Atlantic. lovemydog Jun 2015 #54
Slavery is one human being owning and using another human being as capital. Octafish Jun 2015 #56
that's why I've always found the term 'Human Resources' a degrading name HFRN Jun 2015 #58
Absolutely: Resources are for extraction and exploitation. Octafish Jun 2015 #60
What about Virginians celebration of Lee-Jackson day just before MLK day. ileus Jun 2015 #59
Totally agree with Burn's statement. AikidoSoul Jun 2015 #61
It's about the continuation of slavery, fear and bigotry (Dark Age thinking) Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #62
Kick and highly recommended! William769 Jun 2015 #64
If it WEREN'T about resistance to Civil Rights, the wavers wouldn't have the ugly attitude. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #67
I just a avoided arguing with a Civil War revisionist Third Doctor Jun 2015 #69
. libodem Jun 2015 #71
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #72
Yup. merrily Jun 2015 #73
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