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guappo1

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105. The Reason for not laying off

Mon May 14, 2012, 09:08 PM

May 2012

I was a member of the LDS church for over 30 years. I found the people to be kind and carrying people.
The problem is when I got deeper into it I became aware of certain beliefs that I could not except. The
Idea that the leader of the church is considered a prophet, sear, and revelator. Meaning he speaks for god
on all issues. They look upon him as anyone looks up prophets in the bible. That alone would keep me from
supporting Romney. He dare not go against anything that the church president would ask of him.

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Lay off Romney and his Mormon beliefs? [View all] WilliamPitt May 2012 OP

Religion should have Politicalboi May 2012 #1

Yeah, let's go easy on ALEC and their major funders. EFerrari May 2012 #2

Wan't he some kind of minister in his church? aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #3

Bishop Lars39 May 2012 #5

Here you go: EFerrari May 2012 #7

That will play great with the born-again crowd. Honestly, that piece is pure gold for him. freshwest May 2012 #107

Except that it will remind them of Romney's Mormonism Alcibiades May 2012 #126

I'm not talking those who are in a denominated congregation. The mega churched aren't. freshwest May 2012 #138

I'm quite familiar with those folks too Alcibiades May 2012 #144

It's a social activity requiring less money than many other activities. Not all tithe at 10%. freshwest May 2012 #150

I've noticed that, too Alcibiades May 2012 #153

Bishop -- a position of great influence obamanut2012 May 2012 #9

My Dads a Bishop, it's hardly a person of great influence FreeState May 2012 #103

The LDS uses "bishops" because they're too cheap to pay church leaders jmowreader May 2012 #165

would love to lay off romney--but it would be better if he never got hired....... dembotoz May 2012 #4

I would how equal having four wives is in terms of marriage equality? Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #158

The Romney gene: neither civil nor religious law coalition_unwilling May 2012 #6

Moroni for President! xtraxritical May 2012 #45

He'd have done an awesome job HotRodTuna May 2012 #140

I really don't give a rat's butt about Romney's religion... cynatnite May 2012 #8

Yeah Mitt does what is "socially acceptable in his circle despite the law" too. xtraxritical May 2012 #46

I wouldn't have given a rat's butt either EXCEPT HillWilliam May 2012 #125

K & R to the effing top of the greatest page malaise May 2012 #10

The point as I saw it was you can attack Romney on a number of issues w/o using Mormonism as the jp11 May 2012 #11

How do you know that it isn't his association with the Mormon Church EFerrari May 2012 #13

I don't and even if it was does that make all the people who are associated with the Mormon jp11 May 2012 #35

Except the argument is about RMoney and the Mormon Church leadership, EFerrari May 2012 #38

Right? Rmoney is a Bishop in LDS. daaron May 2012 #117

Mormonism didn't make him a flipflopper HotRodTuna May 2012 #141

If you have ever tried to do business in Utah and you're not a Mormon xtraxritical May 2012 #48

And they push you toward conversion siligut May 2012 #62

my colleague/friend is a Mormon and compulsive liar freeplessinseattle May 2012 #112

When I lived in Utah, I often saw traits of personality disorders. siligut May 2012 #132

yep, I spent my younger years in SLC, and was bullied by a few Mormon girls freeplessinseattle May 2012 #139

Sorry, but it could be his very mormonism that CAUSES him to lie so damn much. stillwaiting May 2012 #83

Thanks for the link, it says it all. bahrbearian May 2012 #92

I hope it's OK - I'm making a thread just for this in Religion. daaron May 2012 #118

Yeah, but I'd rather attack his Mormon beliefs _ed_ May 2012 #124

Hell no. Not when we are dealing with a religion more cult-like than most... AzDar May 2012 #12

Exactly! It's things like that that needs destroyed!! Great Caesars Ghost May 2012 #30

That was not a sincere OP imo. Rex May 2012 #14

Um. WilliamPitt May 2012 #15

Oh, er...I am talking about the OP that Rex May 2012 #16

*whew* WilliamPitt May 2012 #17

My fault. Rex May 2012 #22

I was about to deploy WilliamPitt May 2012 #25

LOL! Rex May 2012 #52

Not this OP, *that* OP. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #18

Got it WilliamPitt May 2012 #19

It's always good to see you here, Will. EFerrari May 2012 #21

Thanks WilliamPitt May 2012 #23

+1 Rex May 2012 #27

Classic. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #31

I didn't even notice that obamanut2012 May 2012 #77

Hehe. Rex May 2012 #20

Well, you did say 6 weeks for the decoder ring. EFerrari May 2012 #24

Be sure...to drink...your Ovaltine? WilliamPitt May 2012 #26

Ooooh... Rex May 2012 #29

thank goodness fisticuffs were avoided! librechik May 2012 #82

HAHA! Rex May 2012 #85

tee hee! librechik May 2012 #91

Lol, I read your mind and agreed with your mind completely! sabrina 1 May 2012 #148

Republicans would never use religion for political attacks. JohnnyRingo May 2012 #28

For some reason "Lay Off" and "Romney" in the same sentence seems apt. 11 Bravo May 2012 #32

HA! WilliamPitt May 2012 #33

That was my thought too. progressoid May 2012 #80

If Mormons are not wanting us to look into their religion because one of their own is running TlalocW May 2012 #34

K&R. I didn't want to even kick that other idiocy, so thanks for the alternative. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #36

The Mormon support of Prop 8 in CA SalviaBlue May 2012 #37

This. EFerrari May 2012 #40

Not just Mormons. Daemonaquila May 2012 #41

In CA over Prop H8, it was the Catholic bishops EFerrari May 2012 #44

I agree... It's not just the Mormons. But Mitt is a Mormon. SalviaBlue May 2012 #101

They also gave money to help pass Amendent One in NC obamanut2012 May 2012 #97

"...with his religion (which I believe is bat shit crazy). " cleanhippie May 2012 #120

If someone told you you had to join a religion for a job HotRodTuna May 2012 #142

Heck, no. Time to expose ALL religious kooks in government. Daemonaquila May 2012 #39

Nice, Left-Wing Christians don't tend to be "kooks" obamanut2012 May 2012 #78

I'm starting to see the appeal in LanternWaste May 2012 #42

Does anyone here really want to see the Mormon Church in control of the United States? Zorra May 2012 #43

How are they able to keep their tax exempt status with all the politics and money? xtraxritical May 2012 #54

Good question. I suspect that they have numerous high paid lawyers and lobbyists Zorra May 2012 #63

I think you are right and they want a Mormon in high office to get even more influence siligut May 2012 #64

Thank you. They are a 1% multinational religious corporation, and they want Zorra May 2012 #74

I agree! get the red out May 2012 #55

The gloves came off with Prop 8. myrna minx May 2012 #47

Two kinds of politics. Effective and ineffective. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #49

It could be our little slingshot against the financial clout of LDS, EFerrari May 2012 #50

Don't you know IOKIYMR? Arugula Latte May 2012 #51

LOL EFerrari May 2012 #53

Attacking religious minorities is an old tradition. Bruce Wayne May 2012 #56

The Mormon Church is hardly a "minority" when it comes to EFerrari May 2012 #57

The business that is this Church get the red out May 2012 #59

Agreed. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #60

That was your 666 post. Rex May 2012 #58

They funded and promoted the removal of rights from the people of California! Zorra May 2012 #65

The LDS elders would have no problem outlawing your religion if they could. Ikonoklast May 2012 #70

Entirely missing the point. Bruce Wayne May 2012 #155

*snarf* "Hey kids! Try some of Reverend Jim's special kool aid! It's totally killer!" Zorra May 2012 #163

Kirk to Khan: "You keep missing the target" Bruce Wayne May 2012 #168

+1 ellisonz May 2012 #79

We need to look at the church calling of "multiple marriage' and polygamy. Yes there were guys ..... marble falls May 2012 #61

CA was first in 1850 with property rights. Utah admited to the Union in 1896.... Bluenorthwest May 2012 #86

According to some information, New Jersey women were granted the right to vote in 1776 AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #110

That's a fact. Actually how it happened was... Bruce Wayne May 2012 #156

A belief that the language was due to "haste" (and apparently carelesssness) is contrary to those AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #159

Utah was first ...... marble falls May 2012 #116

If a person believed his sofa was a deity would you give him access NightWatcher May 2012 #66

My sofa is a deity WilliamPitt May 2012 #67

I'd vote for you but then again I'm a born-again Sofamarian NightWatcher May 2012 #72

LOL EFerrari May 2012 #75

My lazy boy is more powerful than your Sofa. bahrbearian May 2012 #94

Zogon The Orange Pleather Ottoman scoffs at the Sofa Lord. DirkGently May 2012 #109

How is that different from every other religion? nt Flatulo May 2012 #96

"...some of the stuff he claims to believe." cleanhippie May 2012 #121

Comparing this to the JFK situation is a false equivalency KamaAina May 2012 #68

Nicely laid out. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #73

actually, to be fair to Mr. (Miles) Romney hfojvt May 2012 #69

No, thank you. Iggo May 2012 #71

Mormon Prophesy worries me in this context HeiressofBickworth May 2012 #76

"Mormons expect the US to eventually become a "Mormon-ruled theocracy divinely ordained Zorra May 2012 #134

Considering that would take place after other prophecies of mass destruction and upheaval HotRodTuna May 2012 #147

No need to attack, just ask Mitt to clarify JoePhilly May 2012 #81

Normally I would disagree. But Romney was a church Leader. TNLib May 2012 #84

Thank you, Will! countryjake May 2012 #87

Considering their global door knocking routine I find it impossible to believe that Mormons don't Bluenorthwest May 2012 #88

K&R JitterbugPerfume May 2012 #89

K&R. n/t DLevine May 2012 #90

Religious belief is as germane to politics as religious groups cause it to be. DirkGently May 2012 #93

hell no...exploit it to the hilt ibegurpard May 2012 #95

Attacking a candidate for what his great-grandfather and his great-great-grandfather Flatulo May 2012 #98

We're not attacking his ancestors, it's his belief/value system that is being scrutinized. Major Hogwash May 2012 #99

That's your opinion Alcibiades May 2012 #127

Isn't it still true that people vote their wallets? Flatulo May 2012 #128

The Mormon church is one big fringe element Alcibiades May 2012 #143

Romney made what happened 100 years ago relevant when he attacked same sex marriage. SunSeeker May 2012 #130

It's also a good example of moral relativism Alcibiades May 2012 #145

Also, aren't Mormon "sister wives" married to each other just as much as to their husband? SunSeeker May 2012 #149

Fuck the Hypocrit and His Waco Religion we can do it May 2012 #100

They helped push Prop H8, they are fair game. Odin2005 May 2012 #102

They were fair game well before that Major Nikon May 2012 #162

K&R 99Forever May 2012 #104

The Reason for not laying off guappo1 May 2012 #105

you'd think this would raise hackles in the media.....naaaaaaw. spanone May 2012 #106

I believe in separation of church and state Generic Other May 2012 #108

+1000 Wind Dancer May 2012 #129

Right. Give me a Freaking Break...Every RWers believes in and swears by the Bible/Old Testament cr8tvlde May 2012 #111

One Republican friend of mine boomerbust May 2012 #113

OOOOO what did he say? obamanut2012 May 2012 #119

ahh, thank you BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #114

Read up on Theodemocracy obamanut2012 May 2012 #115

During BAIN Capital he was a bishop and area leader for LDS churches in Mass. Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #122

Mormonism was officially racist until 1978 _ed_ May 2012 #123

Just like Romney enjoys being able to lay off people? Capt. Obvious May 2012 #131

again I look to the words of Cyrus Arbuckle ... bayareaboy May 2012 #133

Wow, a bigotry triple. Well played. Bruce Wayne May 2012 #157

Frankly, I think that tblue37 May 2012 #135

nope they think they should be above the law madrchsod May 2012 #136

It wasn't some nice folk from Utah that proudly and almost singlehandedly cr8tvlde May 2012 #137

If Wright is fair game, then Mormonism is Alcibiades May 2012 #146

the sins of the great-great-grandfather? iverglas May 2012 #151

and if he were a practicing Muslim with a GGGrandfather who had read Muslim rites ? cr8tvlde May 2012 #152

well, we disagree iverglas May 2012 #154

So, if a candidate's religion drafted, funded, and promoted, an amendment to Zorra May 2012 #166

why do you need to attack the candidate's religion? (edited) iverglas May 2012 #167

What about his great, great, great grandfather????????? how do you know he did not kill indians? K.T.M. May 2012 #170

It's fair to look at his family and poligamy and the role of race in the church's history. craigmatic May 2012 #160

For the first time in my entire life Woody Woodpecker May 2012 #161

Up WilliamPitt May 2012 #164

You're still dead wrong. Bruce Wayne May 2012 #171

I bet if we go back farther... K.T.M. May 2012 #169

Does this apply only to Romney or can we do this for everyone? cleanhippie May 2012 #172