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delrem

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49. Yes, Rove did indeed use the mindf*ing phrase.
Sun May 31, 2015, 12:38 AM
May 2015

It's interesting that there are people posting to DU who play with it, as in this case a "conservative democrat", whatever that might mean beyond an opposition to liberal and progressive movements in the Democratic party. And I guess you play with it too.

What exactly did Rove say? I'm unsure and I'm not going to look it up, I'll paraphrase from memory that he said something in an awful and sneering attack, that his camp had control of "reality" because it controlled events, that by the time the liberal/progressive/left figured out what reality was, Rove and his power base had already changed it and had moved on.

Something like that, right?

But what does that make of the phrase "reality based community", when cited as a proud attainment by a self-described "conservative Dem", who disassociates from and attacks the liberal/progressive/left factions within the Dem party?

"Oh @#$&. That's The Truth." [View all] MannyGoldstein May 2015 OP
... SoapBox May 2015 #1
Yes Mira May 2015 #2
Come on Manny! Get real! Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #3
Yep, that's the false truth we've been led to believe. Avalux May 2015 #23
Truth, Justice and the American Way aspirant May 2015 #4
Yep and I guess you know who I think that should be. zeemike May 2015 #40
and stage left May 2015 #72
But but but...optics! BrotherIvan May 2015 #5
Yesterday I signed up a non-voter, someone who had no interest in voting, or in politics because she sabrina 1 May 2015 #6
Exactly what I have been running into! Dragonfli May 2015 #15
What a fantastic post. It would make a great OP, maybe in the Bernie Forum. sabrina 1 May 2015 #37
This should be its own OP, imo (last paragraph should be your lead). My sincerest KingCharlemagne May 2015 #41
His no-bullshit, nothing-but-the-truth message hifiguy May 2015 #21
And that message doesn't change to appeal to each new audience n/t arcane1 May 2015 #28
That is a HUGE part of it. hifiguy May 2015 #29
No matter who, and no matter WHEN! This isn't just the 2016 market-tested "Sanders Brand" arcane1 May 2015 #30
Right now he's the second favorite in a field full of obscenely well funded Corporate candidates. sabrina 1 May 2015 #38
Way to go! I have been doing the same thing! Dustlawyer May 2015 #45
Excellent. JDPriestly May 2015 #48
What remains to be seen is if Americans can handle the truth Fumesucker May 2015 #7
History says no Mnpaul May 2015 #16
It's happening, and I like it. nt delrem May 2015 #8
Good Luck. KMOD May 2015 #9
Ah. He doesn't have $2.5B at his command. That's a big difference. delrem May 2015 #11
Martin O'Malley is NOT a Hillary supporter Divernan May 2015 #31
I hope Bernie wins the nomination just to watch him debate a Scott Walker or Donald Trump… LOL world wide wally May 2015 #10
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #12
Yes, of course you think that way, "ConservativeDemocrat". delrem May 2015 #14
+1 L0oniX May 2015 #24
Just once I would like to see who these "hate-filled "fan club" of DU purity trolls" that Autumn May 2015 #26
They don't exist. It's just name-calling to paint over a weak defense. arcane1 May 2015 #27
The use of the false dichotomy is perpetual. zeemike May 2015 #43
'reality based community' that brings back memories! Lol! sabrina 1 May 2015 #32
Nothing say's I'm a Democrat like a Autumn May 2015 #34
Lol! sabrina 1 May 2015 #35
Err... Rove said he *wasn't* in the reality based community Recursion May 2015 #47
Yes, Rove did indeed use the mindf*ing phrase. delrem May 2015 #49
He mockingly called progressives and moderates "the reality based community" Recursion May 2015 #50
Actually, Rove *defined* a so-called "reality based community", delrem May 2015 #51
No, I even linked Suskind's article above. Rove said he *wasn't* in the reality based community Recursion May 2015 #52
OK. We're at a wall. delrem May 2015 #53
Read the ****ing quote. I posted it for you. Recursion May 2015 #54
However, you are no longer responding to what I've written. delrem May 2015 #57
I don't question Rove's definition because it's correct Recursion May 2015 #58
Well there you go. You accept Rove's definition of political reality. delrem May 2015 #59
You don't think solutions emerge from the observation of reality? You think Rove is right? Recursion May 2015 #60
Sorry. I don't accept Rove's definition. That's a fucking no-brainer. nt delrem May 2015 #62
Umm... you don't believe in studying reality to come up with solutions? You're like Karl Rove? Recursion May 2015 #63
OK. You're WAY into Rove-speak. I've got that. delrem May 2015 #64
OK, fine, how would you define "reality-based community"? Recursion May 2015 #65
I told you, I reject the phrase. delrem May 2015 #69
Look at how my conversation has gone. delrem May 2015 #61
Well, when you ally yourself with Rove like you are on a Democratic board Recursion May 2015 #66
What you say about me is a lie, pure and simple. delrem May 2015 #67
You're the one who doesn't want to be in what Rove called "the reality based community" Recursion May 2015 #68
All I know is the quote came from Rove. It sure wasn't an endearment. Autumn May 2015 #70
I likewise don't like the idea that the object of a discussion is to "change the opponent's mind". delrem Jun 2015 #73
Check out his journal. neverforget May 2015 #39
Yes. It isn't without merit, though. delrem May 2015 #56
that was a really bad hide treestar Jun 2015 #74
I agree. delrem Jun 2015 #76
It'd be the greatest TV of a decade. delrem May 2015 #13
There would be nothing left of his opponent but a pair of smoking shoes. hifiguy May 2015 #20
Lol, I think you are correct. He's beating them already without anyone hardly sabrina 1 May 2015 #33
I'd love to see Bernie go up against Santorum just for that image. Or Cruz. Fuck - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #42
Thermonuclear obliteration. hifiguy May 2015 #44
It would look like the debate with Bachmann on CNN Mnpaul May 2015 #17
People are so astonished at this hootinholler May 2015 #18
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #19
That's why I like Bernie so much. Avalux May 2015 #22
And a Kick and an R. BeanMusical May 2015 #25
Truth is so refreshing fadedrose May 2015 #36
Politics is in part the art of concealing the truth in order to get things done. Orsino May 2015 #46
Our country sorely needs to listen JEB May 2015 #55
The truth is powerful. 99Forever May 2015 #71
Let's call our opinions "the Truth" treestar Jun 2015 #75
K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #77
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