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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #86)

Fri May 11, 2012, 05:11 AM

88. A third of the states, huh?

I'm not the only one who's made those points:

5 Pro-Marijuana Arguments That Aren't Helping by John Cheese

No, I'm not missing a boat. You know by 1978, 11 states had decriminalized marijuana? So, now in 34 years, we've undid the damage from having all those state laws rolled back and had a net gain of six more states. And by "changing the laws" you don't mean full decriminalization.

Not too much progress when I measure it like that. At that rate, you'll have it fully decriminalized 187 years. And if there's anything the marijuana movement has shown, that's the ability to take more than two steps back at any time. Pot advocates are their own second worst enemies, after the Federal Government and before the judgmental, authoritarian, assholes. Ask the pornography industry about judgmental, authoritarian, assholes. Porn is at least as much used as marijuana, and far more disdained. Yet, I think fewer purveyors go to jail than those for pot dealing. Hmm. Why does pot always lose out? Alcohol, porn. Seems there's many substances, fringe causes that do better legally than marijuana, that have just as many excuses, and have fewer advocates helping them.

It is simply obtuse to tell me about marijuana's medicinal effects. Did I offer any skepticism of that? No. The reason: I believe it has more medicinal value than alcohol, by far. Did you see that I said that? Probably, but you thought you'd put in the plug anyway, even though it was moot, and I told you so. Still, you could not resist it. Very predictable. So, why did you have to say things I told you would be ineffective?

All I said was, it's a poor selling point for your movement. I told you why. Instead of attacking me as a person and coming up with straw men, consider my argument.

Otherwise, I shouldn't have to repeat everything just to have you not get it again. You're going to say, oh, he doesn't believe marijuana isn't good for athletes' foot. I must tell him how it cures water on the knee, too.

How cruel and petty and self-absorbed can I be? Not at all. Step down from your lofty, over-aggrandized, self-absorption for a moment. You and your friends just make your cause impossible to help. Don't you and the rest of your movement ever get tired of the wrong approach? To judge by your post, no.

I try to give you good advice, and I get shit on. Typical. Maybe you consider it to be self-absorbed to not want to be treated badly by people in a movement I want to see succeed. If that's the side I'm supposed to be friends with, I'd never get around to facing the enemies. You'd have trouble dealing with the dilemma, too, and the condescension.

Enjoy the uphill battle for the next two centuries, then. The country will be enslaved and the planet will be a slagheap before you learn. I'd join you, but I just don't see that as productive.

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