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In the discussion thread: A message to anyone who doesn't support gay marriage. [View all]

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:11 PM

jeff47 (7,422 posts)

100. We tried "separate but equal" once. It didn't go so well.

If your argument is correct, I can't be married. I'm an atheist. Yet I get to check the "married" box on all sorts of government forms.

If this compromise is not made, EVERY generation will butt heads on this issue and it will never be resolved.

No, when the baby boomers die off it will pass easily. "Gen X" and younger overwhelmingly support gay marriage.

If you truly love the person you are with, what you call the union shouldn't matter - only that you are recognized and treated equally.

We tried separate but equal once. That didn't work out very well.

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202 replies	Author	Time	Post
A message to anyone who doesn't support gay marriage. [View all]	Kurska	May 2012	OP
You should post this on the WRAL site. I doubt many here are not supporting gay marriage. nt	gateley	May 2012	#1
I think you would be surprised.	Kurska	May 2012	#3
You're right -- I'd be very surprised, and undoubtedly very saddened. nt	gateley	May 2012	#5
yep. I'd be very surprised, dear.	cali	May 2012	#25
This comes up on DU every election cycle. After initial shock, I ceased being surprised in 2004. nt	DRoseDARs	May 2012	#39
oh, there were plenty on the other day...	awoke_in_2003	May 2012	#30
On the other hand, he may have garnered some pro-gay marriage voters who aren't	gateley	May 2012	#61
Then you would be wrong	dbackjon	May 2012	#101
Why not send a letter to a newspaper in North Carolina?	HereSince1628	May 2012	#2
You're preaching to the choir here.	AlbertCat	May 2012	#106
Maybe, although I think not on DU.	HereSince1628	May 2012	#109
If they had posted it in Religion forum...	froster	May 2012	#169
why post this here	quinnox	May 2012	#4
We should all be furious	Kurska	May 2012	#6
whatever, so you decided to post an angry rant against duers	quinnox	May 2012	#8
Any Duer that doesn't support gay marriage is my enemy.	Kurska	May 2012	#9
I love how you think your generation is full of enlightenment	quinnox	May 2012	#11
My generation is overwhelmingly infavor of it, but I have even more respect for older folks on the	Kurska	May 2012	#13
"My generation is overwhelmingly infavor of it"	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#23
Please reference this	Kurska	May 2012	#29
Young people in the sixties were overwhelmingly against war, then they grew up and voted GOP.	Dawgs	May 2012	#76
But the bigger picture is more important	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#131
Right... don't argue with Baby Boomers.	froster	May 2012	#172
Not arrogant at all	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#185
That's all well and good	pintobean	May 2012	#200
Statistically speaking, we're more in favor of it than other age groups	Hippo_Tron	May 2012	#191
As I said, the good news is the ones against it don't vote	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	May 2012	#192
While more younger people are for it.....	musical_soul	May 2012	#53
My parents were born in the late 1900s	Rozlee	May 2012	#78
I agree. We should be more angry.	OriginalGeek	May 2012	#14
Absolutely.	Kurska	May 2012	#16
+1. nt	awoke_in_2003	May 2012	#31
Hell yeah! Right there with ya, friend. nt	froster	May 2012	#173
it wasn't directed at DU'ers it was a righteous rant directed at bigots	maddezmom	May 2012	#89
Really?	dbackjon	May 2012	#102
I am extremely furious.	musical_soul	May 2012	#52
+1	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#117
Or maybe the younger generation is sick of appeasers and know-it-alls. nt	froster	May 2012	#175
They better get used to dealing with them	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#184
Youth does tend to bring that	LanternWaste	May 2012	#198
Not sure we should care much about the feelings of the people the OP's referring to. (nt)	Posteritatis	May 2012	#12
this kind of OP isn't exactly going to win them over	quinnox	May 2012	#17
I'm sick of coddling the feelings of bigots.	Kurska	May 2012	#20
I agree. And we have no national leaders to lead the charge of the public shaming of bigots.	Luminous Animal	May 2012	#22
Thank you for that moment of clarity.	Duncan Grant	May 2012	#68
At this point most of them aren't going to be won over anyway	Posteritatis	May 2012	#27
So, it's safe to assume	NorthCarolina	May 2012	#28
kinda picked up on that vibe myself	frylock	May 2012	#45
this seems to have really struck a chord	frylock	May 2012	#44
And what would this "honey" strategy of yours look like?	Duncan Grant	May 2012	#65
Fuck them all. They can't be won over with honey. But, they will eventually die out.	morningfog	May 2012	#71
Bullshit	dbackjon	May 2012	#103
I'm so sick of that pansy-ass line it makes me wanna puke every time I see a DUer spew it. nt	froster	May 2012	#176
How many times have you seen it in your 90 minutes of membership?	cyberswede	May 2012	#177
Aren't you observant? And wouldn't you like to know? ;-) nt	froster	May 2012	#179
Name one.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#95
keep reading downthread and you'll fine one n/t	maddezmom	May 2012	#110
Why not post it here?	noamnety	May 2012	#57
+!!! nt	froster	May 2012	#178
There are lots of rightwing bigots lurking here.	Arugula Latte	May 2012	#67
Not just here.	Renew Deal	May 2012	#80
Thanks for outing yourself	RetroLounge	May 2012	#70
.	fascisthunter	May 2012	#86
People have a right to be angry	Renew Deal	May 2012	#79
Board nannies rule.	WilliamPitt	May 2012	#84
off-putting to who?	fascisthunter	May 2012	#85
Anonymous preaching to an anonymous choir is a low risk activity. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#94
Exactly. But responding with anything but total agreement is not.	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#119
Hey, HotShot! If you have a problem with LGBTQ rights, say it. n/t	TriMera	May 2012	#124
LOL	maddezmom	May 2012	#125
Yeah why would someone post this on our Brony fansite??	progressoid	May 2012	#105
That image is hilarious.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#159
My hero! nt	froster	May 2012	#180
Your concern is noted. n/t	racaulk	May 2012	#129
Yeah OP, how dare you?	froster	May 2012	#171
Hopefully sooner than later.	Great Caesars Ghost	May 2012	#7
Are you saying everyone who doesn't support gay marriage is...old? Not sure what you mean, though I	uppityperson	May 2012	#10
I'm just referencing the demographics of the situation.	Kurska	May 2012	#15
Thanks for clarifying for me. That would be wonderful and I do think things are changing overall.	uppityperson	May 2012	#62
"like I said upthread it is hard to break with peers on issues like this."	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#139
Obsolete's probably a better term.	Posteritatis	May 2012	#18
I don't think what the OP is saying is completely off base.	Butterbean	May 2012	#21
OP is saying that more older people are against it than younger people.	Bladian	May 2012	#50
The things they do look awful c-c-c-cold..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#19
But bigots are a smaller percentage of younger generations	abelenkpe	May 2012	#111
I suspect that the OP will be as disillusioned with his own generation at my age as I am with my own	Fumesucker	May 2012	#193
good, but a much better phrase is marriage equality.	cali	May 2012	#24
Yes, but the older generations definitely spew more hate and bigotry, my dear.	Cali_Democrat	May 2012	#33
probably, sweetie, but that doesn't mean that young people are	cali	May 2012	#38
Of course I remember that, honey, but please see recent polls on marriage equality:	Cali_Democrat	May 2012	#40
uh, prejudice against GLBT folks isn't the only prejudice honeypie.	cali	May 2012	#48
I know prejudice against GLBT folks isn't the only prejudice	Cali_Democrat	May 2012	#49
honey, sweetheart, honeypie...are you two married?	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#153
Hit too close to home?	MNBrewer	May 2012	#54
Who on DU does not support gay marirage?	JoePhilly	May 2012	#26
"focus your anger at those who deserve it"	NorthCarolina	May 2012	#32
Yes, and again ... who on DU does not support gay marriage?	JoePhilly	May 2012	#69
This is part of an ongoing trend on DU. It's sad.	Dawgs	May 2012	#77
Well, if you are a supporter, then obviously this	NorthCarolina	May 2012	#81
There may be, but I have not seen anyone post that they are against gay marriage.	JoePhilly	May 2012	#114
Here you go!	NorthCarolina	May 2012	#174
Nicely done, NorthCarolina. That's called, "Ouch!" nt	froster	May 2012	#181
Actually it's called "that poster is no longer with us because they are a bigot"...but then neither	ScreamingMeemie	May 2012	#182
Not Directly	dbackjon	May 2012	#104
I guess I'd respond this way ...	JoePhilly	May 2012	#130
they are here	CreekDog	May 2012	#186
There's a realpolitik contingent here that would rather defer their support until "later."	Posteritatis	May 2012	#43
And of course	Bohunk68	May 2012	#112
Of course I want a unicorn. I mean, duh.	Posteritatis	May 2012	#170
Young people are our hope for the future.	nclib	May 2012	#34
Minor nitpick	eridani	May 2012	#35
Right on.	sarcasmo	May 2012	#36
You won't get many (any?) to respond directly to your message as DU automatically bans	kelly1mm	May 2012	#37
Why "disguised as faith"?	eallen	May 2012	#41
You can tell the difference by their actions	jeff47	May 2012	#97
Every faith interprets its scripture as it wants	eallen	May 2012	#197
There really isn't any room for interpretation here.	jeff47	May 2012	#199
There's always interpretation. Faith picks and chooses scripture.	eallen	May 2012	#202
Thanks, Kurska. You and most of the kids totally rock.	Zorra	May 2012	#42
LOL	redqueen	May 2012	#46
relatively old f*** here	Skittles	May 2012	#47
Me too!	Lifelong Protester	May 2012	#92
I'm still hoping and praying for a miracle.	musical_soul	May 2012	#51
Im from N.C., and I am appalled this is up for a vote.	mwdem	May 2012	#55
As went Gov. Wallace... so too will go anti-gay bigots. +1	Fearless	May 2012	#56
Spend your time where it matters.	Logical	May 2012	#58
Someone on here posted earlier that minority voters tend to oppose same-sex marriage.	Jamaal510	May 2012	#59
Why on EARTH would you believe that "statistic?" It's FALSE. You should KNOW that, as a black man.	DevonRex	May 2012	#73
That sounds like something feasible for the RW media to do--divide and conquer.	Jamaal510	May 2012	#74
That's right.	DevonRex	May 2012	#75
I just learned that the N.C. amendment is even worse than I thought.	pnwmom	May 2012	#60
Unfortunately, many NC voters were in the same boat.	jeff47	May 2012	#98
Obama doesn't support gay marriage...	MellowDem	May 2012	#63
I truly believe that	fruitsmoothie45	May 2012	#93
Oh yeah? I heard that he does.	pnwmom	May 2012	#189
Haha, touche!	MellowDem	May 2012	#196
That is a grave that will take many hands to dig	varelse	May 2012	#64
Yep. Most of you anti-gay folks are older and will DIE OUT.	Arugula Latte	May 2012	#66
Here ya go	Fla_Democrat	May 2012	#72
!	KG	May 2012	#82
That was a heartwarming diatribe	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#83
yeah, well, that wasn't why it was posted, so....	fascisthunter	May 2012	#88
yeah, lets worry about all the poor bigots reading DU	maddezmom	May 2012	#90
Well, it was posted on DU to DU readers	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#115
I'm not concerned about stealth trolls or bigots that read DU and are offended	maddezmom	May 2012	#116
Sometimes we get tired of hearing we have to handle this fight a certain way	justiceischeap	May 2012	#118
^^This^^ n/t	TriMera	May 2012	#123
Hey, guess what, fellow DU member?	Morning Dew	May 2012	#122
Guess what, my post was in regard to the hateful tone	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#155
so do you support marriage equality?	maddezmom	May 2012	#158
Sorry, I thought you asked "Do you think every single member of DU supports gay marriage?"	Morning Dew	May 2012	#162
If they want to abide by TOS, they will keep it to themselves.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#168
Hit a nerve? ...nt	TeeYiYi	May 2012	#91
Amen.	AtheistCrusader	May 2012	#87
Gay Marriage will never happen	shagsak	May 2012	#96
We tried "separate but equal" once. It didn't go so well.	jeff47	May 2012	#100
You are partially right	shagsak	May 2012	#128
What you are proposing is not compromise.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#134
Marriage is not a religious word	jeff47	May 2012	#151
You do understand that there is more at stake here from a legal perspective, no?	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#120
Absolutely	shagsak	May 2012	#133
Gay marriage will never happen... with attitudes like yours	justiceischeap	May 2012	#121
attitudes like mine?	shagsak	May 2012	#132
So we should just let them continue on in their bigotry?	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#135
You don't get to define marriage, period.	TriMera	May 2012	#136
There you go again.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#141
I know, maybe someday I'll learn.	TriMera	May 2012	#144
You may very well have a progressive stance based on YOUR religious leanings	justiceischeap	May 2012	#150
Marriage precedes Christianity (by a very long time) and separate but equal never works.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#127
I'm reading just the opposite	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#137
No	shagsak	May 2012	#138
Pro equality? No you aren't.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#140
Marriage is not a religious institution. That's why it's culturally universal in one form or another	LeftyMom	May 2012	#142
Well, great then!	shagsak	May 2012	#143
Religious Liberals from New Jersey who support marriage equality:	JackBeck	May 2012	#145
What's up is a separation of church and state.	TriMera	May 2012	#147
I know there are - I are one.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#148
Stop blaming bigotry on your invisible friend.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#149
Not a Bigot, Not a Homophobe	shagsak	May 2012	#152
Recognizing other people's rights isn't persecuting you. Nobody's going to make you marry a dude.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#154
Maybe you shouldn't mock his "invisible friend"	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#156
Homophobia is very offensive to decent people.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#190
Gee, thats a relief.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#160
Please explain how permitting people to marry persecutes you. (nt)	Posteritatis	May 2012	#188
Marriage is NOT solely religious. Married atheist couples are still married.	Zhade	May 2012	#201
A co-worker of mine just lost his "companion" of 28 years	blueamy66	May 2012	#99
When my partner	Bohunk68	May 2012	#113
I wish that I could change things.....	blueamy66	May 2012	#194
People tend to be selective when applying the term "bigot".	The Link	May 2012	#107
Well, check the news today. He just owned up.	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#157
"owned up"?	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#161
Yes, he's been very cagey about his stance	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#164
I have seen enough.	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#166
Ok...not sure what that's supposed to mean	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#183
owned up? kind of an odd phrase for supporting marriage	maddezmom	May 2012	#163
Considering that most people assumed he was for it	HotRodTuna	May 2012	#165
so do you support marriage equality? n/t	maddezmom	May 2012	#167
And younger generations will only remember them with shame. Nt	abelenkpe	May 2012	#108
I am so thankful your generation is more tolerant	Rex	May 2012	#126
Thank you - you give me hope for the future	lovemydog	May 2012	#146
those people are backward thinking	Rosa Luxemburg	May 2012	#187
I don't think that age totally defines this issue -	lynne	May 2012	#195

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