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Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
42. I would like debates held by the League of Woman Voters, those of us old enough to remember
Wed May 6, 2015, 11:35 AM
May 2015

When that was a thing, also realize that debates can be more than the biased dog and pony show the modern debates have become (some more dog, some more pony and some just show depending on the venue).

I suggest a letter writing campaign suggesting they host a primary debate as soon as all candidates have declared, I would go further, my suggestion is to openly stick a finger in the eye of those in the DNC trying to control the the debate process in favor of the candidate they certainly appear to favor over the others. Also contact the un-anointed to agree as a group to this debate and Ms. Clinton can stand on stage by herself at Debbie's events with DWS throwing her softballs and applauding each non-answer. This would nip this nonsense in the bud (after they blatantly refuse admission to all other primary candidates).

Make this ridiculous and transparent attempt to bend the debates to favor a single candidate work against such attempts.

This would also insure a proper debate structure that may be as substantive as they once were. For those too young to know what I am talking about, debates were once actual debates, and when the LWV held them, they were quite unbiased and would include challenging and pertinent questions.

It is unlikely to happen, but would any here agree with me to try to encourage such a thing?

If so, their contact page is http://lwv.org/content/contact

The address and phone numbers:

1730 M Street NW, Suite 1000,
Washington, DC 20036-4508
Phone: 202-429-1965
Fax: 202-429-0854

Yawn trumad May 2015 #1
When the rules were made, it's possible she was the only yeoman6987 May 2015 #239
How many of the "independent" debates included Mike Gravel? brooklynite May 2015 #2
Oh good, so Vermin Supreme will be in all six DNC debates? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #3
Not until he's head over heels. Orrex May 2015 #9
as I recall Dennis Kucinich was kept out of some DNC debates cali May 2015 #4
It doesn't keep out lesser know candidates if DNC rules allow them in... brooklynite May 2015 #6
I'm more concerned about the number of debates but eligibility is also an issue Jim Lane May 2015 #16
There were also twice as many candidates, which means half as much time for each brooklynite May 2015 #17
Not exactly, because time wasn't allocated equally Jim Lane May 2015 #25
+1 daleanime May 2015 #31
And the "minor" contenders were often asked questions about the major ones n/t arcane1 May 2015 #79
or UFOs frylock May 2015 #159
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #242
One of my objections is that this would exclude the debate that is usually hosted by the League of jwirr May 2015 #18
Last League of Women's Presidential Debate was in 1988. ieoeja May 2015 #39
Didn't realize that. Thank you. jwirr May 2015 #40
Though they still host local debates nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #48
I agree which is why I was upset about this. jwirr May 2015 #52
In some cases cali, less exposure is most likely the goal. If they want to be elected Autumn May 2015 #11
Hell yes.... daleanime May 2015 #34
Did you agree with your host Agschmid aspirant May 2015 #59
Every person here is capable of forming their own opinion. Autumn May 2015 #65
I read your post. aspirant May 2015 #74
You didn't quote my post. You didn't even respond to my post. Autumn May 2015 #77
"Six debates are ridiculous" aspirant May 2015 #84
I think that the DNC and H.Clinton would prefer not to have any debates. Actually rhett o rick May 2015 #246
When a "lesser" candidate, LWolf May 2015 #7
The debates were great when Gravel and Kucinich and Sharpton were there. They were pretty sabrina 1 May 2015 #222
The DNC is always going to support the person(s) they think can win the general. nt BreakfastClub May 2015 #5
Exactly. Not too hard to understand. n/t beaglelover May 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #244
So if that person was republican, that person would be supported? daleanime May 2015 #38
Is it their job to quash the other candidates? AgingAmerican May 2015 #71
Is the DNC running ads to "quash" Berine? JoePhilly May 2015 #83
They are doing two things, IMHO AgingAmerican May 2015 #88
Yea, I remember how Hillary self-destucted against Obama. JoePhilly May 2015 #97
She went full negative AgingAmerican May 2015 #101
I'm pretty sure that the 2008 Dem primary went longer than any in my lifetime JoePhilly May 2015 #104
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #243
I hope you see how wrong that is. They should not be favoring one Democrat over other rhett o rick May 2015 #247
Wasn't it a similar situation at the beginning of the 2008 election? Vinca May 2015 #8
And this is the sort of thing I alluded to in pointing out Bernie may run as a Democrat KittyWampus May 2015 #10
He hasn't switched parties MaggieD May 2015 #29
You can't switch in Vermont nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #51
Well then why does he have (I) on his name? MaggieD May 2015 #61
I am not supporting him, I am just telling you a fact nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #68
It's MY business - I'm a Democrat MaggieD May 2015 #73
Well your business should be clear by now nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #75
If he is "running as a dem" MaggieD May 2015 #91
Not to those who are honest nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #96
I am a partisan MaggieD May 2015 #98
Take it to the DNC nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #106
LOL - isn't that the complaint in the OP? MaggieD May 2015 #107
Acutalliy no, you are complaining that they are nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #109
See "Leahy, Patrick - DEMOCRAT" MaggieD May 2015 #92
So you are calling the state of VT Baloney? nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #93
No, I'm calling your excuses for Bernie baloney (nt) MaggieD May 2015 #95
I live in California MaggieD nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #105
Again, has NOTHING TO DO with party registration MaggieD May 2015 #108
I once again URGE YOU to contact the party nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #111
Why would I need to contact the party? MaggieD May 2015 #112
You made quite blatant charges that nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #113
It's not a "charge" it is a fact MaggieD May 2015 #114
That is a cop out nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #115
No, it's political reality MaggieD May 2015 #117
Just trying to help once again nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #118
LOL - I max out to the DNC in election years MaggieD May 2015 #119
Nevertheless nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #122
Oh if only the purists understood politics MaggieD May 2015 #127
That purist thing does not fly with me nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #128
I already responded to your CU question MaggieD May 2015 #133
You are barking to the wrong crowd there nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #134
I'm a DEMOCRAT MaggieD May 2015 #136
Well it was 2009 and a few things that made me part of the largest growing nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #138
Well since you're NOT a DEMOCRAT MaggieD May 2015 #140
I am just telling you to CONTACT THE PARTY nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #142
There is no need to contact the party MaggieD May 2015 #144
Speaking about lectures :-) nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #146
I won't give a dime to the DNC MaggieD May 2015 #147
That be good nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #149
You're not a DEMOCRAT MaggieD May 2015 #153
Actually one of them is running for the state assembly on the democratic ticket nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #154
All I know is what you have posted MaggieD May 2015 #156
Even more cute and naive nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #158
He's useful right now MaggieD May 2015 #160
BUT the party does not agree with you nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #163
LOL - the party does not take Bernie seriously MaggieD May 2015 #164
I will take what you are saying with one of these nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #170
Comparing Bernie to Obama is laughable MaggieD May 2015 #181
Keep 'em coming nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #183
Darn those Left Leaning Independents Autumn May 2015 #189
In some things I am to the left of Bernie Sanders nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #191
Check your inbox Autumn May 2015 #192
Check it back nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #193
He is running as a DEMOCRAT AgingAmerican May 2015 #89
As evidenced by what? MaggieD May 2015 #94
As evidenced by the fact he is running for the Democratic nomination AgingAmerican May 2015 #194
not this shit again.. frylock May 2015 #161
We are now into Nader nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #165
Schooled? LMAO! MaggieD May 2015 #171
He's FUCKING running as a Democrat.. frylock May 2015 #173
How do you "run as a Democrat" MaggieD May 2015 #175
Vermont State Law nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #184
Vermont state law keeps him from representing himself as a Dem? MaggieD May 2015 #185
I do not care what you think nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #186
LOL - all the sudden? MaggieD May 2015 #203
You are so damn off base nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #204
You run in the Democratic primary cyberswede May 2015 #190
That horse is cute nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #197
Are you some sort of purist? frylock May 2015 #200
I'm in the mood for vanilla ice cream. Autumn May 2015 #188
I like caramel myself frylock May 2015 #202
Sugar free, either nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #205
The right toppings can make it downright rhapsodic, though. QC May 2015 #231
Well some nuts would be good nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #236
Definitely! n/t QC May 2015 #249
... Puglover May 2015 #251
Vanilla Alittleliberal May 2015 #241
You clearly are clueless about Bernie. HERVEPA May 2015 #166
What's it like to be a rocket scientist? L0oniX May 2015 #199
I feel like one here some days MaggieD May 2015 #201
Just because you fail to understand it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #207
LOL - you're getting closer MaggieD May 2015 #208
We have passed nothing you still fail to understand how the system works nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #209
No really, it was impressive MaggieD May 2015 #210
Just because you refuse to understand how it works in the state of vermont nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #211
I don't see it that way MaggieD May 2015 #212
Now we crossed into the twilight zone nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #216
6 is way too low. The exclusivity rule is going to raise eyebrows. mmonk May 2015 #12
+1. If they don't want to schedule more than 6, that's their call, winter is coming May 2015 #14
DNC wants to run government like a Wall Street bank, they do what they want, we bail them out. whereisjustice May 2015 #13
No I won't deny it but 6 debates is just fine. hrmjustin May 2015 #15
"DNC members are overwhelmingly pro-Clinton" Freddie Stubbs May 2015 #19
Imagine that MaggieD May 2015 #30
we have three candidates so far, six debates is more than enough. if we had 22, like the republicans La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #21
six is too few, but what I find troubling is the repuke style exclusionary claus cali May 2015 #22
3? hootinholler May 2015 #35
I am counting O'malley and Sanders (who is technically not a Democrat) La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #44
O'malley hasn't declared yet hootinholler May 2015 #53
This is how i got to three. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #55
Nah, let's have 50 debates with all DUers invited to participate in the last 35. stevenleser May 2015 #85
LOL. La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #86
Its the 'debates' vs republicans that should be 22 or more, all on public free TV Sunlei May 2015 #23
The DNC is about getting Democrats elected justiceischeap May 2015 #24
The Convention is not about who gets Nominated... HoosierCowboy May 2015 #26
Blue sky politics,,,,,,, Cryptoad May 2015 #27
yes, it's called the DEMOCRATIC party MaggieD May 2015 #28
The Clinton's have spent over two decades helping build the careers of Democrats geek tragedy May 2015 #32
In 2008 she didn't have Wasserman-Schultz rigging the national game for her. PassingFair May 2015 #43
Ah, no.... MaggieD May 2015 #110
Only 6 Debaates? My first thought was fredamae May 2015 #33
So does DU philosslayer May 2015 #36
I guess they think Hillary can't stand the heat, so they'll build a smaller kitchen. n/t winter is coming May 2015 #37
Did the DLC consult with the candidates about the exclusionary clause? If not, why not? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #41
I would like debates held by the League of Woman Voters, those of us old enough to remember Dragonfli May 2015 #42
I would love to see the LWV hold some debates. winter is coming May 2015 #177
This should be an OP, woo me with science May 2015 #187
I'm with you, Dragonfli! Enthusiast May 2015 #245
The Democratic Party has a strong HRC bias. That's why she's going to win the nomination. Unvanguard May 2015 #45
The point is that bias is limiting the opportunity of challengers Maedhros May 2015 #56
They're limiting the number of debates because there is one overwhelming favorite. Unvanguard May 2015 #60
There were 27 Democratic debates in 2008. Maedhros May 2015 #62
There was a competitive primary in 2008. Unvanguard May 2015 #64
There is one in 2016, too. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #66
Which Hillary entered as the front runner AgingAmerican May 2015 #72
It is not for the party to decide BrotherIvan May 2015 #195
Yes, gearing up since Election Day, 2012 to be exact. fadedrose May 2015 #46
Its a bias towards winning. DCBob May 2015 #47
So the DNC should pick the candidate for us AgingAmerican May 2015 #50
No. Whomever is the front runner going into the debates will benefit. DCBob May 2015 #54
Whomever is frontrunner AgingAmerican May 2015 #57
As I said I suspect the DNC doesn't want an ugly drawn out campaign. DCBob May 2015 #58
The DNC doesn't want Democracy AgingAmerican May 2015 #67
Yeah, the 2008 primary season led to the election of McCain/Palin. winter is coming May 2015 #87
Different situation.. different time. DCBob May 2015 #168
So your belief that a competitive primary season will damage our nominee's prospects winter is coming May 2015 #176
Replace "The DNC has", with "Democrats have" and your subject becomes correct. stevenleser May 2015 #49
It is not the DNC's job to grease the skids for one candidate over the others. AtomicKitten May 2015 #63
Why should the DNC do jack for a guy.... MaggieD May 2015 #99
Because he is a declared candidate running in the Democratic primary. AtomicKitten May 2015 #100
So let's say Ted Cruz decides to run in the democratic primary MaggieD May 2015 #102
His inclusion in the primary was sanctioned by the DNC. AtomicKitten May 2015 #103
"The DNC has a strong HRC bias." workinclasszero May 2015 #69
Well, at least you aren't denying they're rigging it. Marr May 2015 #121
Get real will you? workinclasszero May 2015 #124
Again, at least you aren't denying they're rigging it for Hillary. /nt Marr May 2015 #126
So they're structuring the debate rules to favor someone who didn't win the nomination in '08 winter is coming May 2015 #162
"DNC members want to win the Presidency." NCTraveler May 2015 #70
The Democratic rank-n-file seem to have a pretty strong bias as well. Perhaps the DNC is just...... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #76
Yup rank-n-file dems definitely biased!! workinclasszero May 2015 #78
I love it cuz it pisses off all the right people. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #80
This DNC Ad was deceptive and infuriating VideoGameVet May 2015 #81
You DO know that they don't ASK for any $$$...right? brooklynite May 2015 #90
The email VideoGameVet May 2015 #262
I think Hillary and the DNC will welcome Bernie in the debates. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #82
He is part of the race, here from DNC page nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #116
Yes, by all means.... MaggieD May 2015 #120
Here you go nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #123
Oh and one more thing nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #125
Here is what I understand.... MaggieD May 2015 #130
Ah NADER, of course nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #132
Facing reality would be awesome MaggieD May 2015 #135
Yup it would be awesome nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #137
Again, more political naivety MaggieD May 2015 #139
They were far more than those who voted for Nader nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #141
And that would have been the case.... MaggieD May 2015 #145
So your argument is essentially that nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #148
My argument is very simple MaggieD May 2015 #150
And extremely naive nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #151
I know plenty of politicians MaggieD May 2015 #155
Again, cute and naive nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #157
That is the Naderite song and dance MaggieD May 2015 #167
You call history exccuses nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #172
No, I call denial of reality excuses MaggieD May 2015 #174
You are still telling me that the dumping of thousands of voters nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #179
I'm saying we still would have won if not for the purists MaggieD May 2015 #180
Has it ever occurred to you that Liberals nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #182
Yes, it has MaggieD May 2015 #213
Ah that dog wistle, the extreme left! nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #217
So you don't think there is ..... MaggieD May 2015 #218
In the United States, no nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #220
You should come to Seattle MaggieD May 2015 #224
You are right I forgot about Seattle... yup you are correct Mayor Murray has done nothing nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #234
Ed Murray despises the extreme left MaggieD May 2015 #248
So we are back to whistles nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #252
I'm just saying your assumption.... MaggieD May 2015 #253
And I do not pay attention to people who use nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #254
Oh just admit you stepped in it MaggieD May 2015 #255
Believe you me you used apolitical dog whistle nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #256
I don't think you know what a dog whistle is MaggieD May 2015 #257
Please proceed governor nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #258
LOL! All of the sudden? MaggieD May 2015 #260
"I don't think you know what a dog whistle is" sufrommich May 2015 #259
By the way - easy peasy MaggieD May 2015 #221
Sorry not retyping all of this nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #223
You're backsliding MaggieD May 2015 #225
It has to do ewith the party ultimately nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #229
Has to do with the national party MaggieD May 2015 #233
What progress, once again from the NATIONAL PARTY nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #235
Don't stop believing! MaggieD May 2015 #238
Yeah, the copy and paste thing.... MaggieD May 2015 #226
Of course it is not nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #232
And you are taking the way out nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #226
Bad schools are a big problem too MaggieD May 2015 #228
You are dodging, I want specifics nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #230
I'm fresh out of time MaggieD May 2015 #240
GOLDSTEIN!!! frylock May 2015 #169
Hillary will be elected by the Dems who vote for her upaloopa May 2015 #129
Exactly MaggieD May 2015 #131
I get the feeling in reading some of the posts Hillary is the one complaining about the Thinkingabout May 2015 #178
Oh well as long as you "have a feeling" MaggieD May 2015 #215
Always been obvious to me Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #143
As many are here, if the DNC gives as much opposition to " Another " ,,,, orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #152
Of course they do. They had a strong backing for Bill Clinton and I don't see why Rex May 2015 #196
DNC is owned by corporate Wall Street banksters. Democratic principles are on life support. L0oniX May 2015 #198
Simple to solve. RichVRichV May 2015 #206
Shame on them MaggieD May 2015 #214
Any Dem over any Repug progressiveforever May 2015 #219
It should be obvious to anyone who has ever witnessed H. Clinton in a debate tularetom May 2015 #237
K&R woo me with science May 2015 #250
Thanks. And they are pro Clinton since long time ago. mylye2222 May 2015 #261
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