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In the discussion thread: Report: Cops stun Tampa woman pregnant with sixteenth child [View all]

Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #95)

Tue May 8, 2012, 02:22 PM

103. Cops confronted a kid for an alleged rock throwing incident.

The boy was frightened by the police and ran home.

The cops came to the door and walked in without permission or warrant.

The pregnant mother and her daughter defended their homestead and family member.

What am I missing?

So now an alleged rock throwing has turned into an assault in a person's own homestead. And, the woman was tased when she was eight months pregnant.

What facts am I missing?

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213 replies	Author	Time	Post
Report: Cops stun Tampa woman pregnant with sixteenth child [View all]	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	OP
What does her being pregnant with her sixteenth child have to do with cops tasing her?	monmouth	May 2012	#1
I know ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2012	#2
This will be sure to reveal prejudices.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#4
And just to ruin their narrative, the children in the small photos below the article are all clean	monmouth	May 2012	#11
They weren't a while back, there's a little bit of a backstory	snooper2	May 2012	#43
There is no way that I see given the present attitudes,	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#53
I feel bad for her kids, but I have a difficult time scraping up any sympathy for her.	Quantess	May 2012	#152
So if you're immature and have lots of kids, fair game to taze you? I'll keep that in mind.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#180
No. I guess it's hard to keep track of what each DUer writes.	Quantess	May 2012	#190
sorry. my error.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#191
No problem. It's a huge thread.	Quantess	May 2012	#192
She was eight months pregnant. Why did they tase her at all?	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#3
Several things wrong with this story...	trumad	May 2012	#5
Someone is in full court press?	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#9
They can enter, any way they feel like, all they have to claim is, someone is in danger.	WingDinger	May 2012	#10
In this case they were talking to the kid about a crime he was believed to have committed	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#18
First, it was not witnessed by cops, and a misdemeanor at worst.	WingDinger	May 2012	#22
Are you willing to admit that while in your situation the "cops were out to get you"	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#25
Sure, but given her media history, she is a ripe target, for punishment.	WingDinger	May 2012	#27
Given her history she's also a ripe target for raising kids	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#35
So let's put more money in public education and sex ed classes!	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#56
Absolutely we should	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#70
I like the way you keep edging away from the primary issue.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#80
Sure it is	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#82
I'm not so sure the cops had the right to barge in.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#84
Now you're changing your argument	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#86
On the contrary.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#99
Like I've said 3 times now: read the article	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#102
That doesn't sound like someone who is trying to support his position.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#111
I have, several times	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#113
Then just quote the relevant post numbers.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#115
Ok,	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#117
I looked up the post numbers.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#123
Whoops, must have looked at the "responding to" section	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#127
Responses:	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#132
Response:	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#133
I do believe that given this woman's two year public history,	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#137
You "believe" this to be true	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#138
Cops generally have their own jurisdiction.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#142
You make a lot of arguments based on your assumptions	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#159
I never said she feared he would be murdered.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#161
Yes you did	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#169
I never mentioned murder.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#173
You made the claim that she had to choose between the two	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#177
You're the one that made it appear she had to make a choice in order to be a good mother.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#182
The kid said he didnt do it. How much further can a cop go without ANY evidence?	WingDinger	May 2012	#146
This is where I'm confused.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#148
Yeah, normally, they ignore things. The next door hottie, and her friend,	WingDinger	May 2012	#150
I have been taunted by a punk ass cop nicknamed ROBOCOP.	WingDinger	May 2012	#144
It's not just the police that use this tactic.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#149
Tasers aren't people prods. They are deadly force. So thanks for condoning	think	May 2012	#200
She died?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#203
500 deaths from tasers in the last ten years.	think	May 2012	#204
You realize what the police use as alternatives to tazering when they are being attacked	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#205
What a gun and shoot her? A billy club and beat her?	think	May 2012	#207
" What a gun and shoot her? A billy club and beat her?", yes, exactly	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#208
Tasering and beating pregnant women seems thirld world to me	think	May 2012	#209
There was no beating	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#210
From what I read two police officers entered the house after the women refused to let them in	think	May 2012	#211
No, that's correct	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#212
Look, I suspect you'll never agree that the cops were in the right here	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#213
And there is no question that the cops would have	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#31
"They were retaliating for my busting a corruption racket, including cops and judges. "	dionysus	May 2012	#143
Not a joke, in the least, and I stopped a racket that targetted soldiers.	WingDinger	May 2012	#145
She assaulted the cop	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#14
How difficult is it to grab a woman's hands and handcuff her if she's	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#15
Yeah, how difficult could it be	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#16
Why didn't they wait?	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#19
Wait for what?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#20
They had the option to call someone that knew the woman.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#36
It turned in to a fiasco because she and her eldest daughter behaved incorrectly	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#39
I repeat. This family had no were to go. No where to retreat.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#57
There was no need to retreat	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#68
Instead, an alleged rock throwing has put this family over the line, completely.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#72
You are misrepresenting the facts of the case	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#87
And that either-or thinking is all that is left for may people...	LanternWaste	May 2012	#61
The police aren't there for a shoulder to cry on	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#69
Put them on a list, and on notice. Next time a rock is thrown, react. Oh, and require the reporter	WingDinger	May 2012	#153
Put them on a list, as she's being bludgeoned?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#158
Cops hyperbolize all physical contact.	WingDinger	May 2012	#163
It's true, all cops are liars whereas all civilians tell nothing but the truth	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#166
Sounds WAY too much like a barroom brawl for rational consumption.	WingDinger	May 2012	#168
From the article:	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#170
THe lady is CRAZY. Even more requirement to social support up. Bring social workers. Something.	WingDinger	May 2012	#171
So if you're attacked by a deranged woman	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#172
The appropriate response is, get help.	WingDinger	May 2012	#174
Ah, so every police patrol to investigate vandalism should contain	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#176
Ah, but the kid said he didnt do it, and ran. THEREFORE,	WingDinger	May 2012	#178
cops are always tazering and shooting deranged people who attack them for no reason. funny.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#181
Cops ARE tazing PLENTY of deranged people, and punks who's attitudes they dont like.	WingDinger	May 2012	#183
To solicit comments like:	Capt. Obvious	May 2012	#6
The story was written to elicit this kind of response.	trumad	May 2012	#7
+1	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#8
The people in the comments	EC	May 2012	#12
I always read the reader forums in the Orlando Sentinel.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#13
I keep hearing this sort of comment	juice feast	May 2012	#23
We'll never really know if birth control was an option.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#28
Rubbers are in the gas stations!	juice feast	May 2012	#29
Or they haven't been given the proper education.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#38
As I said before, anyone who would have these many kids	juice feast	May 2012	#42
Well, the authorities now have her where they can do anything they want to her.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#58
But,	EC	May 2012	#54
I know, right?	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#59
I wonder if that commenter would have acted differently if the woman were Michelle Duggar	tabbycat31	May 2012	#119
The Orlando Sentinel is an RW cat box liner	KamaAina	May 2012	#135
Naming the number stacks the conversational deck against her from the beginning. (nt)	Posteritatis	May 2012	#156
I think it's important she was pregnant, but not how many kids she has. I'd think they'd	HiPointDem	May 2012	#179
Tasing a pregnant woman is worth mentioning...	hughee99	May 2012	#187
I Got 15 Kids & 3 Babydaddys-SOMEONE'S GOTTA PAY FOR ME & MY KIDS!!!	FarCenter	May 2012	#17
Thanks for the video.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#24
I doubt that tasing her is going to cause permanent physical harm to her or her fetus	FarCenter	May 2012	#33
People seem to miss this obvious fact:	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#40
Yet any other woman would have been applauded for protecting her children.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#44
Protecting them from what?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#45
We will agree to disagree.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#47
They forced their way in because the kid hid and the mother refused to talk to them	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#49
The law isn't applied evenly.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#62
How many suburban moms in nice neighborhoods would have responded the way this one did?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#71
They would never have had to worry about it,	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#83
Yes, this one clearly goes all the way to the top	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#85
This was never about her to begin with.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#89
You're missing some steps	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#95
Cops confronted a kid for an alleged rock throwing incident.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#103
Probable cause	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#107
There was a better way to do this,	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#109
Such as?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#112
I've explained this thoroughly.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#118
Who?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#120
Her children look well fed and cared for.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#124
You're assuming of course that the mom is not taking care of her kids	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#125
I'm sorry FarCenter. I have to disagree that tasing cannot harm people.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#41
I just watched a local news video where Angel Adams was hauled into court	Quantess	May 2012	#50
And you know what, that conclusion is the only one that I think is fair to make.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#63
Due to all sorts of hazards women have encountered over the last million years	FarCenter	May 2012	#60
Oh my God.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#67
You were careful with your fetus right?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#73
What about her son?	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#76
Sophies choice:	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#78
She was defending her child.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#88
No, she wasn't defending her child	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#90
I repeat, the cop was a cop.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#94
"given the woman's history."	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#96
OH my gosh!	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#98
Provide evidence	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#100
And you are the one that made the argument	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#92
BTW: the cop was a woman	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#81
The cop was a cop.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#91
You're all over the place	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#93
The way you put Angel Adams down, that can only come	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#97
You are amazingly sexist you know that?	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#101
Nice projectionist attempt.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#105
You are the one arguing that men cannot understand this	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#106
Consider:	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#104
OH my God, how your argument is contorting.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#108
"You were the one who claimed she should pick one child over the other."	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#110
I don't owe you an apology. Here is your statement:	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#114
Ok . . .	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#116
I think you should stop accusing me of lying. It's not very nice.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#122
"I think you should stop accusing me of lying. It's not very nice."	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#129
That was actually a nicely developing thread	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#131
You're arguing that she was right to put her fetus at risk	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#134
See, circular argument. We're back to where we started.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#139
Again, you are relying on this absurd notion that she thought her son would literally die	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#157
I think you're the one who is not realistic.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#162
If you can't see that falling back on that old canard is an admission of defeat then I suppose	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#167
It's not defeat. It's a reality of debate.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#175
This message was self-deleted by its author	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#130
You must have had some medical problem? Exercise is recommended during pregnancy.	FarCenter	May 2012	#75
Complications are not unexpected when women work up to the point of delivery.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#77
Four people die every month from being tazed.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#186
I guess the woman in the video never read the	guardian	May 2012	#126
I think the intent of what she said is misrepresented in this video. It cuts off very quickly	HiPointDem	May 2012	#184
This post was hidden by jury decision.	juice feast	May 2012	#21
Whatever the answers are to your question,	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#26
So if cops get hit by a person	juice feast	May 2012	#30
The cops were in complete control.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#51
The cops saw the kid throwing rocks?	Fumesucker	May 2012	#32
Did I say the cops saw it?	juice feast	May 2012	#34
Generally one adds "allegedly" to crimes until the trial has been concluded...	Fumesucker	May 2012	#48
Where I live, they won't pursue these kind of allegations	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#65
I didn't see it either	LACarMan	May 2012	#46
Welcome to DU!	Fumesucker	May 2012	#52
Thanks!	LACarMan	May 2012	#55
It defies an answer.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#66
One of her kids was ALLEGEDLY throwing rock. She was likely the talk of the neighborhood, and could	WingDinger	May 2012	#37
You don't have to convince me about what dark intentions lie in the soul	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#64
Breitbart ran articles hounding this woman when she was last in the news.	Starry Messenger	May 2012	#74
Looks like he has plenty here to pick up the baton for him.	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#79
Last year's thread.	Starry Messenger	May 2012	#154
Did he run articles hounding the Duggars?	KamaAina	May 2012	#136
To be fair, the Duggars can also afford all those children somehow.	Quantess	May 2012	#141
So TLC needs to give Ms. Adams a reality show?	KamaAina	May 2012	#147
Zing! (nt)	Starry Messenger	May 2012	#151
I'd be stunned too if they gave me a 16th kid. n/t	cherokeeprogressive	May 2012	#121
TASERS MUST BE BANNED.	BlueIris	May 2012	#128
It certainly seems to be giving some people the ammunition they need	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#140
I cant protest, as if I get tazed, I am dead. So, my civil rights dont exist, if I want to survive.	WingDinger	May 2012	#155
Wait, they stunned her with a child instead of a taser?	jberryhill	May 2012	#160
Stupidity has consequences	mythology	May 2012	#164
If the story is true as relayed by the police...man, what a bunch of class in that bloodline.	flvegan	May 2012	#165
Tazing an unarmed person is cowardly.	bhikkhu	May 2012	#185
The cops	Meiko	May 2012	#188
I looked at the backstory on this, & I don't understand why this woman's story was all over	HiPointDem	May 2012	#189
Because her story serves a political agenda..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#197
yeah, i was kind of being rhetorical. when you start noticing the propagandistic intent of	HiPointDem	May 2012	#199
No warrant is needed	ti66er8pooh	May 2012	#193
You're new around here, aren't you?	Quantess	May 2012	#194
See ya?	ti66er8pooh	May 2012	#195
Just wait for the pile-on.	Quantess	May 2012	#196
RE: Pile on	ti66er8pooh	May 2012	#198
+1	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#206
Yay, Cops!	Iggo	May 2012	#201
The bigotry just oozes, here.	Odin2005	May 2012	#202

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