Reply #103

In the discussion thread: I May be Going to Debtor's Prison [View all]

Tue May 8, 2012, 04:09 AM

103. Right, because you know all the answers,

And would have made all the right choices.

He gets what he deserves for screwing up and not doing what perfect you would have done.

Are you sure you're in the right place?

I also noticed that like some of the other uber-righteous folks here, you have also made shit up about what is in the post. Not a very good reflection on your cognitive powers. Ignorance of the explanations he gave for having to fix the engine himself really demonstrates that you've prioritized admonition and self-righteousness far above understanding.

Where did he say he 'saved' money for trying to fix it himself, and how does fixing it himself make him a 'fucking idiot'?

I know, I know, you're a big, strong, tough person to whom such setbacks are a trifle. Good for you. Go have a cookie.

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I May be Going to Debtor's Prison [View all]	The Doctor.	May 2012	OP
K&R	99Forever	May 2012	#1
Thanks.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#3
I certainly hope things get better for you...	99Forever	May 2012	#25
what is going to happen when the jails are run over with people like this? Where are they going	southernyankeebelle	May 2012	#44
It's more complicated than that.	randome	May 2012	#46
What can you do if that is all that is out there. Lets face it if your in your 40s, 50s,60s you	southernyankeebelle	May 2012	#47
HA! Tell us, please...how many?	ret5hd	May 2012	#170
I bet like 98% would love living in squalor just to get back at their x wives, he chose to be poor	Dragonfli	May 2012	#191
Some percentage would, for a time	treestar	May 2012	#308
There is a meaness afoot in the land.	annabanana	May 2012	#2
"Why should I pay for this and that"	sufrommich	May 2012	#14
What's with making shit up?	The Doctor.	May 2012	#22
Read this:	sufrommich	May 2012	#30
I would love to hear her side of this.	Pithlet	May 2012	#33
Yep, me too. nt	sufrommich	May 2012	#34
It's common on DU to jump on a bandwagon hearing only one side	treestar	May 2012	#81
I'm always guilty of that -- thanks for the reminder. And for those who are cautioning against	gateley	May 2012	#171
That glaring omission???? See post #116. nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#117
Not surprised in the least. n/t	Pithlet	May 2012	#121
Nope---completely unsurprising. nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#122
As I was saying.	lapislzi	May 2012	#139
$600 a month is all he's paying?	randome	May 2012	#35
male median income 2010 = $32K. $600 = 1/4.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#73
1/4? That's not nearly enough. It should be 2/3	Zalatix	May 2012	#90
Exactly, plus like it or not, it's not the other guy's responsibility.	Lionessa	May 2012	#59
Wow, you are really twisted.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#64
No, I'm not "twisted" nor do I	sufrommich	May 2012	#111
Yeah, he has to pay the court ordered amount	treestar	May 2012	#80
You seem terribly passive aggressive yourself. n/t	iamthebandfanman	May 2012	#135
This article raises more questions than it answers	lapislzi	May 2012	#138
What 'opportunities to act in his own defense' do you mean?	The Doctor.	May 2012	#148
He claims to have proof of his wife's perjury	lapislzi	May 2012	#283
So you didn't read it.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#292
I read it. Every tedious, self-pitying word.	lapislzi	May 2012	#296
Bullshit. If you had, you wouldn't have posted what you did.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#314
I'm sorry, but I cannot continue this discussion with you.	lapislzi	May 2012	#316
it's almost a "cool story bro" type of story, don't know what to believe on this one.	dionysus	May 2012	#280
Du rec. Nt	xchrom	May 2012	#4
Y'know this is nothing more really than "my ex-wife and life screwed me" rant.	Lionessa	May 2012	#5
Exactly.	Pithlet	May 2012	#6
you think your opinion on this might in any way be jaded?	snooper2	May 2012	#9
Yes the facts and reality definitely jade me. I don't see that as an issue.	Lionessa	May 2012	#19
Yet you are so willing to invent extraneous details not in evidence,	The Doctor.	May 2012	#156
What are you talking about?	Pithlet	May 2012	#158
It is based on the information presented therein, his own presentation	Lionessa	May 2012	#172
You are of course correct.	mysuzuki2	May 2012	#11
Should a man help pay for his children? This has	sufrommich	May 2012	#13
Sure.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#18
Right. But that wasn't up to him to decide that.	Pithlet	May 2012	#24
Yeesh you can't start a new business if you have child support payments?	dkf	May 2012	#36
Not if it means you can't meet your child support obligation.	Pithlet	May 2012	#37
At what level?	n2doc	May 2012	#26
I'm a wife and mother, and here's why I can't agree with you.	kag	May 2012	#225
Oh, barf. n/t	Pithlet	May 2012	#227
Thank you.	kag	May 2012	#307
I've heard that sophomoric crap before.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#15
I did not say it wasn't true, I said it wasn't the whole truth, and lacks any real owning of his	Lionessa	May 2012	#23
You said the story was unbelievable	Major Nikon	May 2012	#52
I guess when a person hears nearly this exact same rant from	Lionessa	May 2012	#57
I know plenty of divorced people	Major Nikon	May 2012	#61
You do know what jaded means right?	snooper2	May 2012	#123
Yes, but as mentioned above, if it's facts and reality of	Lionessa	May 2012	#142
"I realize you men all think women are the drama queens"	snooper2	May 2012	#147
He reminds me of a man I know with bipolar disease, who flits from one job to another	pnwmom	May 2012	#41
I was thinking the same thing	dana_b	May 2012	#219
Wow --	On the Road	May 2012	#98
One line summary - In the US you may be sent to jail if you can't pay your child support. n/t	PoliticAverse	May 2012	#7
Yep...	The Doctor.	May 2012	#17
if you can't, you go back to court. Like not paying your taxes, it doesn't just "go away".	crazyjoe	May 2012	#39
True.	HappyMe	May 2012	#164
When the revolution happens it'll start in places like this.	Initech	May 2012	#8
This message was self-deleted by its author	gratuitous	May 2012	#10
He's not going to "debtor's prison",he's going	sufrommich	May 2012	#12
Right, he couldn't pay a debt obligation, so he's going to jail.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#16
Only by those who want to minimize what the obligation is for.	Pithlet	May 2012	#20
No it is contempt of court	treestar	May 2012	#75
Right, not having enough money = 'contempt of court'.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#100
The law is that earning capacity is considered	treestar	May 2012	#107
Right, because he's 'supposed' to make more, he should be making more.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#112
It depends on the case	treestar	May 2012	#253
Collective punishment is wrong. And laws should not be written based on what 'some people did'	sabrina 1	May 2012	#131
What is better for children is not being raised in struggling single parent households	Pithlet	May 2012	#134
And having a parent thrown in jail benefits children, in what way? For most children it is	sabrina 1	May 2012	#244
It benefits them because the system needs some level of teeth.	Pithlet	May 2012	#247
Really? If someone simply cannot pay, sending them to jail will solve that? How?	sabrina 1	May 2012	#257
I get that jail isn't the solution for everything. I'm not a law and order type.	Pithlet	May 2012	#260
"Most fathers who are not paying child support are not paying because they CAN'T"	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#262
Feel free, not sure why it should be a problem. I have been to fathers groups with friends who	sabrina 1	May 2012	#268
Until you can put some stats behind your statement	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#277
I asked for stats and didn't get them yet.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#285
Well you could try to find some	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#289
No, I did not initiate this discussion. The obligation for proof is on those who made the initial	sabrina 1	May 2012	#294
You are actually the one with the right wing meme	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#299
Now you've really gone way off the tracks regarding this discussion. What a gigantic, humongous	sabrina 1	May 2012	#300
Easy	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#303
Since when do people on the left give a crap about what the Right, who are wrong about	sabrina 1	May 2012	#306
Maybe if we try this one by one	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#311
First of all there should not be a 'custodial' or 'non-custodial' parent.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#318
And we're done. nt	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#321
Lol, sorry to burst your bubble that we are not stuck with rightwing	sabrina 1	May 2012	#323
We're done because	WinniSkipper	May 2012	#325
He never tried to petition the court to adjust his payment to a level he could afford.	Kaleva	May 2012	#266
Yes, he did. You obviously did not read the comment section. He was denied.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#267
I agree in some ways.	laundry_queen	May 2012	#271
First, thank you for your post. I wish you and your children all the best. I am sure it is not easy	sabrina 1	May 2012	#273
"Can't pay" is his excuse	treestar	May 2012	#256
Courts often decide people can pay when in fact they cannot. Ever attend a father's rights group?	sabrina 1	May 2012	#259
Most states have to have formulas based on federal guidelines	treestar	May 2012	#293
It is not collective punishment to have a law equally applied to all	treestar	May 2012	#254
True enough, but semantics, much like fabreeze seeks to take away the bad odor /nt	Dragonfli	May 2012	#194
This is nothing but a long drawn	Texasgal	May 2012	#21
Recommendation: fathersandfriends.org web site and facebook page	grasswire	May 2012	#27
OP needs to edit this to include that it is due to failure to pay child support...	Earth_First	May 2012	#28
Really the biggest mistake he made was in not hiring the best lawyer he could,	n2doc	May 2012	#29
He was trying not to traumatize his kids. The family court version of	Zalatix	May 2012	#92
So he in effect surrendered.	n2doc	May 2012	#106
It's hardly pyrrhic. She won the jackpot. Literally.	Zalatix	May 2012	#145
She'll get no money	n2doc	May 2012	#153
This is true, but she'll get plenty of money from her new husband	Zalatix	May 2012	#155
I don't think they're engaged.	Pithlet	May 2012	#163
She left because she was supporting him.	Kaleva	May 2012	#327
You mean hire an attorney he apparently couldn't afford.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#99
Wow some of the replies are pretty tough.	dkf	May 2012	#31
Yep, Non-Custodial Parents are one of the untermenschen of modern society. No one cares about them	stevenleser	May 2012	#195
Thank you, I agree with you completely.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#286
The child support laws have been developed over time through good and bad	treestar	May 2012	#309
I can't argue with providing for your kids, but it seems to me that society could have benefited	dkf	May 2012	#329
Poorly-written "poor me" screed. He's facing jail for missing child support payments, not cc debt	REP	May 2012	#32
You know, I notice you have no pity for anyone.	Zalatix	May 2012	#93
Really? You've read all 14K+ of my posts?	REP	May 2012	#96
You are right, absolutes are seldom true. I can say though, that I have yet to see a post of yours	Dragonfli	May 2012	#196
I thought I was responding to someone else - sorry - edited	REP	May 2012	#221
Why thank you for noticing me these past 8 years! /nt	Dragonfli	May 2012	#222
I'm sorry; thought I was responding to someone else. I don't recognize you at all.	REP	May 2012	#223
No need to edit, one thing I am not is easily offended :-) /nt	Dragonfli	May 2012	#229
Right, because you know all the answers,	The Doctor.	May 2012	#103
I have obviously made better choices; I am not going to prison.	REP	May 2012	#151
I'm not the one making assumptions.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#161
That's odd - only you suggested others make the same decisions I do; I didn't	REP	May 2012	#220
"I slog through your Word Salads of Fury"	pintobean	May 2012	#261
foresight	Mason Dixon	May 2012	#38
He's wrong about the family courts being biased against fathers.	pnwmom	May 2012	#40
I agree with that.	randome	May 2012	#45
Maybe where you are ..	sendero	May 2012	#63
Well, I mean, you can just google and find some right off the bat...	Pithlet	May 2012	#65
Also, here's what a family lawyer in Texas says about father's chances in Texas:	Pithlet	May 2012	#67
Who told you that? A man who had been denied custody? A judge?	pnwmom	May 2012	#84
I think you were told wrong	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#87
Let me make a point here. After the close to TWENTY Motion Hearings	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#89
Link please.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#71
And support is gender neutral, too.	treestar	May 2012	#79
They don't request support ecause if they demand mom's support for the kids, she'll demand custody.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#88
Well the laws are gender neutral	treestar	May 2012	#108
My husband said that when he was suing for custody	Mariana	May 2012	#128
He says right in the OP that	sufrommich	May 2012	#160
We have an acquaintance here in NY	HappyMe	May 2012	#169
He's not wrong as the only person responding to you with a link pointed out.	stevenleser	May 2012	#197
It's called "The Tender Years Doctrine".	The Doctor.	May 2012	#202
From that very link:	Pithlet	May 2012	#243
Thank you, that's what I thought. I have asked for some links to prove what has been said here,	sabrina 1	May 2012	#265
Yes, you are not going to get any links because it is simply not true.	stevenleser	May 2012	#281
He knows he's wrong, he's got custody of one of his	sufrommich	May 2012	#200
Omniscience must be nice.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#203
I know as much of the story as you do, but if you're going	sufrommich	May 2012	#204
Making shit up again.... wow.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#291
"But I know your history well"	sufrommich	May 2012	#297
Do you have any data for that? That is not what I have found. .	sabrina 1	May 2012	#264
My ex is dumb as a hammer and crazy as a sack of bats.	LASlibinSC	May 2012	#42
I'm really sorry that these things happened to the author of the post.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#43
That was my impression as well -	TBF	May 2012	#50
We need to have a national discussion about the problem of divorce.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#201
Short story: He's going to jail for failure to pay child support.	Selatius	May 2012	#48
how do you pay child support from jail?	grasswire	May 2012	#49
I'm assuming he's serving jail time in lieu of failure to pay past child support.	Selatius	May 2012	#51
the jail time does not pay off the obligation	grasswire	May 2012	#70
It's very hard to get someone in jail for it	treestar	May 2012	#76
I know without reading that he's going to jail for back child support.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#53
Exactly.	bluestate10	May 2012	#56
No they don't. Meet Charles Bruce.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#66
Debtor's prison is for debts accrued on purchases and loans.	Starry Messenger	May 2012	#54
Maybe they think if the "debt" is discharged.	Pithlet	May 2012	#58
Imprisoning poor people after assigning them debts they could never pay is wrong	Taitertots	May 2012	#55
$7800 a year is outrageous?? Do you have a clue what it costs	Lionessa	May 2012	#60
So what, a person making $10,000 can't pay $7800	Taitertots	May 2012	#62
But he can live on the remaining $2,200!	Zalatix	May 2012	#94
It doesn't matter what it costs. The only thing that matters is what he can pay. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#68
$7800 = 1/4 of male median income. which suggests that there's a lot of men who are working	HiPointDem	May 2012	#74
Child support is a profit center for the courts.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#69
and for the associated professions...	grasswire	May 2012	#72
It's for support of children	treestar	May 2012	#78
You didn't read the link.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#86
No, they are decided by formula.	treestar	May 2012	#109
It is a figure based on his income and hers	treestar	May 2012	#77
sigh	grasswire	May 2012	#82
Well if those are the rules, they are applied to everyone	treestar	May 2012	#83
that may be so...	grasswire	May 2012	#85
The economy would be considered	treestar	May 2012	#110
B/C those guidelines cause poor people to pay an unreasonable amount	Taitertots	May 2012	#302
Give it away?	treestar	May 2012	#304
Of course there are no groups trying to change the formula...	Taitertots	May 2012	#319
$7800	tru	May 2012	#234
Fail to take care of your kids, go to jail	quakerboy	May 2012	#91
And then how do the kids get support if he's in jail? Or dead?	Zalatix	May 2012	#95
It amazes me how so many can form such strong opinions over something they didn't bother to read.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#101
Try again.	quakerboy	May 2012	#102
You just proved that you didn't read it.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#104
For all we know, she may not have commited perjury.	Kaleva	May 2012	#105
Your point?	The Doctor.	May 2012	#113
Check out post 116..there's a reason for his problems....nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#118
That is NOT a reason for his problems. Millions of people get DWIs. Btw, I see this was brought	sabrina 1	May 2012	#270
His explanation is bunk	quakerboy	May 2012	#252
That's a heartbreaking situation.	pacalo	May 2012	#97
That ex-wife sounds like a horrible nightmare	JNelson6563	May 2012	#114
You know what sickens me? Women who form opinions of other women	msanthrope	May 2012	#115
You're right, I should've prefaced with:	JNelson6563	May 2012	#130
There you go.	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#149
I thought he sounded like a nightmare.	Pithlet	May 2012	#132
I suspect this item on the POLICE BLOTTER might explain why the wife left....	msanthrope	May 2012	#116
Might explain his very erratic work history.	Kaleva	May 2012	#119
Well, I suspect it isn't just one....	msanthrope	May 2012	#120
I posted the question at Kos with a link to the police blotter.	Kaleva	May 2012	#124
I expect crickets. nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#125
Yes. I don't expect a reply.	Kaleva	May 2012	#127
and knowing too many people with drinking problems -	bhikkhu	May 2012	#129
Wow, posting his home address.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#159
Writer displays many traits typical of narcissistic personality disorder.	lapislzi	May 2012	#324
Well, that makes it alright to lock him up and throw away the key. He was pulled over for a DWI.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#133
I think the point is	Pithlet	May 2012	#136
such scenarios DO happen, trite as they may sound	grasswire	May 2012	#140
That may be.	Pithlet	May 2012	#141
How many DWIs does she have? Do we know? And suppose she does, what has that got to do	sabrina 1	May 2012	#241
No. We don't know. But we do know how many he has. At least one.	Pithlet	May 2012	#245
It might have much to do with his being unable to pay the child support...	Kaleva	May 2012	#144
And it might not. But don't let doubt get in the way of a nice character assasination.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#162
Well, the writer had no problem assassinating the character of his former wife.	lapislzi	May 2012	#298
And it might not. And if he was a wealthy Corporate CEO, the issue of DWIs would not even be raised.	sabrina 1	May 2012	#238
In this case it might.	Kaleva	May 2012	#242
That is very true.	lapislzi	May 2012	#326
Um, what are you talking about?	msanthrope	May 2012	#192
Don't be sorry for something you are merely speculating on. I pointed out	sabrina 1	May 2012	#240
You really think having an addiction has nothing to do with the ability to pay child	msanthrope	May 2012	#251
Who said he is an addict? But if he is, of cours it would affect his ability to pay support. Just	sabrina 1	May 2012	#255
I think his letter very clearly spells out his problems. Denial is a powerful thing. nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#258
This is what he said at Kos about the arrest:	Kaleva	May 2012	#263
So he admitted to drinking, but refused the breathalyzer that	msanthrope	May 2012	#274
Yes. He never did say why he refused the Breathalyzer.	Kaleva	May 2012	#276
Why did you bring this information over to DK? First, how is it relevant	sabrina 1	May 2012	#282
I didn't google him	Kaleva	May 2012	#287
Well, anyone in that thread at DK could have googled him, possibly they did. It doesn't	sabrina 1	May 2012	#290
I beg to differ	Kaleva	May 2012	#295
Well, I will tell you why most criminal defendants refuse a breathalyzer...it's because they are	msanthrope	May 2012	#301
Well , he says there was no finding that he refused a breathalyzer test.	Kaleva	May 2012	#305
No, it doesn't. It spells out a very common story in this country of someone who has been trying	sabrina 1	May 2012	#269
Well, they say the first step is admitting that everyone else has a problem.	msanthrope	May 2012	#275
Lol, I know that things like 'chronology' aren't important when trying to lambaste someone...	The Doctor.	May 2012	#157
You really think a drinking problem just popped up after his wife left? nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#189
They're not building those private prisons for nutt'n.	lonestarnot	May 2012	#126
no he's not	stupidicus	May 2012	#137
I don't think he helped his case by giving his name and publicly accusing his ex of perjury.	Kaleva	May 2012	#143
I think he's a whining dumbass	stupidicus	May 2012	#233
+1	Kaleva	May 2012	#278
The responses to this thread...	Unca Jim	May 2012	#146
... are indicative of the nation's attitude toward the poor and unfortunate.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#150
Do you know who the largest percentage of poor people are in this country?	Pithlet	May 2012	#152
Do you consider 'non-custodial parents' part of those single parent families?	stevenleser	May 2012	#173
Whether or not I consider them part of the family is irrelevant.	Pithlet	May 2012	#175
It's not irrelevant. You dont see the non-custodial parent as a parent and you are right.	stevenleser	May 2012	#177
I absolutely do see the non custodial parent as a parent. Because they are.	Pithlet	May 2012	#178
Then you misunderstood what I was asking (maybe I didnt phrase it well), but my point remains.	stevenleser	May 2012	#179
Yes. I was tying to explain that families run by a single parent are the poorest.	Pithlet	May 2012	#180
You WERE clear, hence my point. You dont think of the non custodial parent as a parent.	stevenleser	May 2012	#182
"You dont think of the non custodial parent as a parent."	Pithlet	May 2012	#183
You excluded them, I am just pointing out what is apparent from your own phraseology	stevenleser	May 2012	#184
Why would I do that?	Pithlet	May 2012	#185
I'm not sure what question you are answering since I asked about a dozen or more, but...	stevenleser	May 2012	#186
Right. Equal and shared custody doesn't exist.	Pithlet	May 2012	#187
Alas, now I have to tell you that you are wrong.	stevenleser	May 2012	#190
Uh, this proves that shared custody doesn't exist how? n/t	Pithlet	May 2012	#207
TO clarify even further	Pithlet	May 2012	#181
"Any question about how different some of these responses would be if this were a woman...	99Forever	May 2012	#166
Totally ignoring how often this agenda is anti woman, of course.	Pithlet	May 2012	#167
99% of the time???????????	99Forever	May 2012	#237
I've been on DU since 2001	Pithlet	May 2012	#239
Frankly...	99Forever	May 2012	#249
Then you can save your disingenuous claims of support for women, ok?	Pithlet	May 2012	#250
The contingency of people on DU with an agenda against men balances it out..	RedRocco	May 2012	#279
Um, no.	lapislzi	May 2012	#310
Your pseudo-neutrality is pretty apparent.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#313
His glaring holes	Kaleva	May 2012	#315
He constructed a very visually appealing cross to martyr himself on...	LanternWaste	May 2012	#154
Wow, he was right. I'm starting to like this guy.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#165
I don't suffer deadbeat dads.	LanternWaste	May 2012	#188
Right, he tried, he failed, he should be punished for failing to make enough money.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#193
Yep, we care about the 99%... unless they are a non-custodial parent. NCP's can go to hell.	stevenleser	May 2012	#198
Money is neither speech, nor support, nor being a parent. Also...	stevenleser	May 2012	#168
Having suffered at the hands of a sociopath	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#206
This is an easy question to answer. The bad parents you describe should have their parental rights	stevenleser	May 2012	#208
There is only one bad parent here...and on paper, it sounds easy	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#214
Yes.	laundry_queen	May 2012	#312
It would cost more to keep him in prison than to give him a job on a road crew or something.	limpyhobbler	May 2012	#174
You are so right, but that's not the point and I think you see it.	stevenleser	May 2012	#176
Divorce is ugly, especially when kids are involved	DaveJ	May 2012	#199
You would be surprised how many people become less mentally stable when you take their kids away	stevenleser	May 2012	#205
I do not agree at all with your "half-time" logic	DaveJ	May 2012	#209
Sure it does. Its only in the situation of a divorce when it doesnt. Consider	stevenleser	May 2012	#210
You are mistaken.	Pithlet	May 2012	#213
Nope, if they are then it is temporary during foster care. Once adopted, the payments stop.	stevenleser	May 2012	#224
Well, that's not what you said, is it?	Pithlet	May 2012	#230
That distinction isnt relevant to the divorce/custody situation, is it? nt	stevenleser	May 2012	#231
Not getting you n/t	Pithlet	May 2012	#232
It would take a LOT for me to be convinced...	DaveJ	May 2012	#217
Nope, I am saying that parents who would not have their children taken away if they were alone	stevenleser	May 2012	#228
Fine	DaveJ	May 2012	#248
Its important to remember that "Its for the children" has been used to justify some of the worst	stevenleser	May 2012	#272
I get where you are coming from and I get that with your emotion	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#211
The actual studies on the subject say the exact opposite. Everyone is happier in shared situations	stevenleser	May 2012	#212
I don't need studies to tell me anything.	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#215
OK, if we're discounting studies, we're done. nt	stevenleser	May 2012	#216
Yes I am because I KNOW that there are just as many studies	Horse with no Name	May 2012	#218
he's incoherent	tru	May 2012	#226
Lucky for his wife!!!!!????	kag	May 2012	#235
We don't know if he kept all of his promises to her.	Kaleva	May 2012	#236
If you read his journals at DU2 written about 3 years ago...	Kaleva	May 2012	#330
The US is being reconstructed as 1 vast open air debtor's prison	kenny blankenship	May 2012	#246
While that may be true, and I agree with you,	lapislzi	May 2012	#284
Unrec	brooklynite	May 2012	#288
I read through the comments.	The Doctor.	May 2012	#317
However, you were tooting his horn not long after he posted his story at DK	Kaleva	May 2012	#320
I'm raising two children who don't get support from the father.	Codeine	May 2012	#322
Yup, I with you.	RebelOne	May 2012	#328

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