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Sat May 5, 2012, 02:46 PM

62. Which confirms that evolution really doesn't have a direction.

There really isn't an evolutionary top or bottom just survivors and non-survivors. In the long term survival sense, we look to be a flash in the pan species of egomaniacs who think we're important because we're able to tell ourselves we are.

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87 replies	Author	Time	Post
Thoughts on the Evolution of Our Species. [View all]	chervilant	May 2012	OP
This.	hunter	May 2012	#1
Right	RobertEarl	May 2012	#2
"Think of collapse as a new beginning." LORDY, I got flamed for saying the same thing.	Zalatix	May 2012	#3
I can see your point	chervilant	May 2012	#6
And, to your mind, reincarnation works in a time-linear, 1:1 fashion?	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#27
Time? Time is nothing	RobertEarl	May 2012	#32
You're not understanding me. By time linear I mean the "soul" progresses linearly fwd through time.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#33
describe a 'soul'	RobertEarl	May 2012	#36
...the concept of now is contingent upon time	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#40
no	RobertEarl	May 2012	#43
You should write a book, with ironclad reasoning like that.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#70
heh	RobertEarl	May 2012	#71
Here's one for you. Is the universe really expanding, or is everything in it just shrinking?	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#72
Is the universe really expanding, or is everything in it just shrinking?	RobertEarl	May 2012	#78
Evolution, or devolution?	flvegan	May 2012	#4
"evolution as a species"? That sounds biological	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#5
Actually,	chervilant	May 2012	#7
It's because you say "as a species"	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#12
Leave no nit un-picked...	GliderGuider	May 2012	#13
The 'nit' is in the thread title	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#15
"things are going to be very different" can be a very valuable message	GliderGuider	May 2012	#16
Furthermore,	chervilant	May 2012	#20
Well, now,	chervilant	May 2012	#19
It's easily arguable	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#23
Wow.	chervilant	May 2012	#25
Read your OP again	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#29
Butting in here	RobertEarl	May 2012	#34
Nuclear war could count for your 1st point; but that wasn't in the OP	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#38
Extinction?	RobertEarl	May 2012	#42
You, in reply #2: "if humans go extinct"	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#45
You are the first in this thread, geez	RobertEarl	May 2012	#48
You're the one nitpicking over the use of a noun versus a verb, or synonyms	muriel_volestrangler	May 2012	#50
What a great time to be alive!	GliderGuider	May 2012	#8
My absolute FAVE ending of a movie! n/t	chervilant	May 2012	#9
Same here. By the way	GliderGuider	May 2012	#10
Indeed!!	chervilant	May 2012	#21
+1000	Wind Dancer	May 2012	#11
Thank you.	chervilant	May 2012	#17
The longer I live the more convinced I am that Gene Roddenberry	hifiguy	May 2012	#14
Having been a geek child,	chervilant	May 2012	#18
sometimes I get episodes of paralyzing fear about these things	Whisp	May 2012	#22
I think our problem in this arena is a lack of evolution.	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#24
Compared to every other species	Rittermeister	May 2012	#39
As long as we set the criteria for judgment, you're right. OTOH, I think Douglas Adams	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#46
The world is becoming more prosperous, more connected, and more peaceful.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#26
Despite the questionable source,	chervilant	May 2012	#28
What's questionable? Huffpo? The data is the data.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#30
As with ANY data	chervilant	May 2012	#31
Sorry, I'm laughing too hard to post a response	Zalatix	May 2012	#35
Yeah, shit was way better 10,000 years ago.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#41
Okay, I'm done busting a gut here. In all seriousness, here is why you are so wrong.	Zalatix	May 2012	#49
I didn't say there are not problems.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#73
Denial is your friend.	Zalatix	May 2012	#74
I do?	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#76
Wait, you don't recall saying this?	Zalatix	May 2012	#79
The "example" of rapa nui is relevant to the experience of isolated island civilizations.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#80
uh, yeah, just like greenhouse gases are relevant only to greenhouses.	Zalatix	May 2012	#81
I think the earth is a complex system. Obviously, it's going to get warmer.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#82
I'm not putting any words in your mouth.	Zalatix	May 2012	#83
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#84
Because what you wrote is not an argument, it's an opinion.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#85
I believe civilization as we run it now is unsustainable.	Zalatix	May 2012	#86
That's not the same thing as saying civilization itself is inherently unsustainable.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#87
what you fail to understand is, it's not a question of a train wreck. The train IS the wreck.	Warren DeMontague	May 2012	#77
I will never understand the need people feel to insist that whatever their situation is	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#37
I agree. a medieval peasant would love to have our problems.	Odin2005	May 2012	#44
It's also becoming more backward, less communal. and less habitable.	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#47
Well, now,	chervilant	May 2012	#51
When people talk about saving the earth, they're really talking about saving us.	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#55
Wow!	chervilant	May 2012	#57
We still have time to make it better.	raouldukelives	May 2012	#52
Indeed, yes.	chervilant	May 2012	#53
K&R to read when I get back later!	sabrina 1	May 2012	#54
Nature abhors the steady state	FarCenter	May 2012	#56
And extinction?	chervilant	May 2012	#58
While extinction is possible, it is not very probable	FarCenter	May 2012	#59
Yeah,	chervilant	May 2012	#63
and not just our extinction	dana_b	May 2012	#60
Lots more species have come and gone before humans appeared in the very recent past.	FarCenter	May 2012	#61
of course	dana_b	May 2012	#66
Which confirms that evolution really doesn't have a direction.	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2012	#62
Agreed.	chervilant	May 2012	#64
Lol, and we are just a blip in the timeline of life. Our existence is so short on the timeline of	sabrina 1	May 2012	#65
Backatcha!	chervilant	May 2012	#67
Speaking of "evolution"...	GliderGuider	May 2012	#68
I think you would appreciate	chervilant	May 2012	#69
Oh yeah! I go all over smiles when I read Sahlins.	GliderGuider	May 2012	#75

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