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Fri May 4, 2012, 10:56 PM

87. I took off one shoe. It reminded me when I put it on that I needed to remember something.

A tip that I used not related to baby but a tip I used when I started for work in the dark and had my lights on by the time I got to work headlights weren't necessary.

Shoe off, headlights off.

Now that most cars have auto headlight shut off, it would be shoe off, baby in the back seat,

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185 replies	Author	Time	Post
Baby died after mom left in SUV while at work [View all]	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	OP
I still don't get how you can forget your baby in the car or your dog or parakeet	cali	May 2012	#1
I don't get it either.	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#3
It's comforting to us to blame the parents..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#15
These threads are always so damn ugly.	trotsky	May 2012	#19
Just so ridiculous. Do people who post shit like that on forums EVER do any kind of	Iris	May 2012	#83
This sounds like what happened with me...	cynatnite	May 2012	#22
It is so brave of you to post this.	Iris	May 2012	#94
I have twice driven past daycare on my way to work, with two of my boys in the back seat.	Skinner	May 2012	#121
I did it--I posted about it in post #131. nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#133
When my kids were little, my dad used to tell me	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#134
Things happen	Worried senior	May 2012	#139
It's very important that you've posted this here.	sibelian	May 2012	#170
The parent is to blame	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#23
How can you punish them worse than the punishment they will live for the rest of their lives with?	Fumesucker	May 2012	#26
I never said she should go to jail	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#27
It could never happen to you, right?	Fumesucker	May 2012	#29
Well, yeah	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#32
Because it is that simple...you just forget...	cynatnite	May 2012	#39
Interesting how the article predicts so accurately some people's reactions..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#41
I can accurately predict how most people will respond to a variety of stories	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#45
So you think it could never happen to you..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#50
You keep saying that "so you think it could never happen to you"	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#51
As I said in my first post, you have a psychological need to see these parents as different from you	Fumesucker	May 2012	#54
I see a lot of people as different from me	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#90
A deliberate act is not the same thing as an error, a mistake..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#102
" I can easily envision a scenario . . . "	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#135
You do not have complete control over your memory unless Susan Calvin really was your designer..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#152
In many areas, whether or not	liberalhistorian	May 2012	#110
As far as our memory is concerned it is no different than forgetting your wallet..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#40
One would think a child would be more significant	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#44
No one is saying a child is equivilant to a wallet...	cynatnite	May 2012	#49
Here's someone it happened to talking about the experience..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#52
Denial.	Iris	May 2012	#84
Trust me...she knows...	cynatnite	May 2012	#30
indeed... n/t	ProdigalJunkMail	May 2012	#37
Tell that to the baby	tabasco	May 2012	#24
None of us are perfect..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#28
Perfect is a long fucking way	tabasco	May 2012	#34
In other words it you think it could never happen to you..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#38
I'm impressed with your calm and persistent responses here.	yardwork	May 2012	#104
I forgot my daughter...	cynatnite	May 2012	#35
Which posters are laughing at this???	obamanut2012	May 2012	#56
Nobody is laughing.	yardwork	May 2012	#103
Every single one of these parents thought they could NEVER do this	obamanut2012	May 2012	#55
Comparing childen to cell phones is idiotic.	Odin2005	May 2012	#65
Tell it to the cognitive science researchers..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#66
A culpable person defends himself!	tabasco	May 2012	#72
Our conscious mind uses our memory as a tool but it doesn't control it completely.	Fumesucker	May 2012	#77
Well if it didn't convince you the first time,	mythology	May 2012	#120
The sparing use of emoticons showed the poster was a really serious person.	Fumesucker	May 2012	#158
Thanks for posting that, Fumesucker. I immediately thought of Gene Weingarten's articles.	CBHagman	May 2012	#79
I hadn't seen that before.	Fumesucker	May 2012	#81
I do. I am a parent. I can imagine this happening. It never happened to me, but it could happen.	yardwork	May 2012	#100
I'm also a parent. I never, no matter how harried I was	cali	May 2012	#141
i get it. i had the baby almost exclusively. it was as natural as anything for me	seabeyond	May 2012	#181
Poor thing. :(	dkf	May 2012	#2
It almost happened to me...	cynatnite	May 2012	#4
I'm a space cadet.	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#8
Both my husband and I were working full time and attending college...	cynatnite	May 2012	#13
And who hasn't done something on autopilot before?	Iris	May 2012	#92
I can tell that you are still so horrified by what happened	Number23	May 2012	#73
" I can't explain how I could have forgotten my baby girl" i think probably if honest	seabeyond	May 2012	#182
BRING CAR SEATS BACK TO THE FRONT SEAT! This never happened till they are forced to be in	Lionessa	May 2012	#5
Front seats are more dangerous...	cynatnite	May 2012	#6
Airbags can be turned off. Car seats designed for front seat safety.	Lionessa	May 2012	#31
Even without airbags ...	surrealAmerican	May 2012	#58
it is still possible to compare deaths via each mode and select the optimum route.	JVS	May 2012	#113
How about putting the diaper bag or something the child needs in the front seat?	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#9
That is a very good idea.	Jamastiene	May 2012	#20
Excellent counter idea. That would work. Let's spread it around, clearly it's needed since	Lionessa	May 2012	#25
Another possibility for new cars - have an alarm go off if too much weight in the child seat spot	MH1	May 2012	#67
Perfect idea for this issue, but still it is really hard to do the	Lionessa	May 2012	#97
I took off one shoe. It reminded me when I put it on that I needed to remember something.	Luminous Animal	May 2012	#87
That's a good idea	laundry_queen	May 2012	#157
Then they get killed by the airbag.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#33
Airbags can be turned off these days. Didn't you know?	Lionessa	May 2012	#36
Generally only vehicles with no back seat have that feature.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#48
My daughter's 4 door Honda has a switch, not a permanent disable of the bag.	Lionessa	May 2012	#53
That's unusual. Most cars don't, and the LATCH anchors are generally only in back.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#57
My point is to re-design rather than continue with BS reasons to keep them in the back, fix it.	Lionessa	May 2012	#59
The back seat is still safer because it's the farthest point from the point of impact.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#63
It isn't safer when it makes the driver less safe in his/her actions trying to tend	Lionessa	May 2012	#101
The data on the matter don't reflect your view.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#107
My Prius automatically disables the front airbag if a certain weight range is in the front seat.	MH1	May 2012	#69
A lot of cars do that.	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#71
That's too big for an infant seat,	LeftyMom	May 2012	#75
Mine go off automatically	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#76
I'm praying for this family...	dhood8083	May 2012	#7
+1	obamanut2012	May 2012	#18
a tragedy	riverwalker	May 2012	#10
sad.	Liberal_in_LA	May 2012	#11
omg how tragic.	Whisp	May 2012	#12
This happens every year, and is just so sad	obamanut2012	May 2012	#14
This message was self-deleted by its author	LASlibinSC	May 2012	#16
Sadly it does happen	LASlibinSC	May 2012	#17
Such a sad thing. I worry about my	Riley18	May 2012	#21
that is really a fantastic idea!	renate	May 2012	#42
I've read articles where they recommend leaving your cellphone in the car seat	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#46
As a society I think we need to warn more people away from parenting instead of idealizing it.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#43
Actually, I think we need to be more supportive of parents...	cynatnite	May 2012	#47
You and LeftyMom are BOTH right	obamanut2012	May 2012	#60
And let's not forget a case where the entire family forgot the child.	CBHagman	May 2012	#88
So, only the superhuman should procreate?	Iris	May 2012	#85
Clearly only the superhuman are capable of not killing their kids through neglect	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#89
Have you read any of the posts here that are outside your filter bubble?	Iris	May 2012	#91
Yeah there really haven't been any legitimate studies posted	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#93
Have you ever experienced doing something on autopilot?	Iris	May 2012	#96
You and I must define "horrible parent" differently	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#137
You are still convinced it could never happen to you..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#165
Pure conjecture	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#174
It is either perfection or luck..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#175
"You might as well say that you'll never get hit by lightning."	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#176
Where did I say it's sheer chance that parents don't murder their kids?	Fumesucker	May 2012	#179
You keep making the comparison to things like brakes going out or lightning	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#184
It is a chance event, that's what you fail to understand..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#185
Yes. Only Superman can keep track of where his kid is.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#106
Pretty simplistic answer to a very complex problem.	Iris	May 2012	#109
It's really not that complicated.	LeftyMom	May 2012	#111
You know, clearly it is b/c no one can predict what every day of the next 18-20 years will be like	Iris	May 2012	#112
+1	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#138
Absolutely!	Marengo	May 2012	#126
How do you know if you can cope with the stresses before you have a child?	uppityperson	May 2012	#154
Summer season. I was actually hoping this year we'd get by without any of these terrible stories	riderinthestorm	May 2012	#61
A good friend of ours ran over his friend's kid	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#70
I know. Gawd, I know. If my 14 yr old hadn't shouted loud enough, that would've been me.	riderinthestorm	May 2012	#74
I've noticed PSA's about this phenomenon this year.	Iris	May 2012	#86
Some people are too fucking stupid to be parents.	Odin2005	May 2012	#62
You think that is all there is to it?	cynatnite	May 2012	#68
Read this Pulitzer prize winning article if you want to understand how it could happen.	undeterred	May 2012	#64
Thank you for posting this	Number23	May 2012	#78
Reading it really does give you an explanation.	undeterred	May 2012	#118
Thankyou for this article.	Vanje	May 2012	#80
Similar to the time before sensors when people backed over their children in driveways	Iris	May 2012	#82
It was really quite hot here yesterday, and I thought,	phylny	May 2012	#95
That's actually an excellent solution.	Iris	May 2012	#98
There had ben talk of weight sensor alarms in car seats to prevent this.	FedUpWithIt All	May 2012	#99
Excellent post.	Iris	May 2012	#108
Public awareness and education are the keys to preventing this kind of tragedy	DesertRat	May 2012	#105
There is no justifying this shit	SixString	May 2012	#114
BINGO!!	B Calm	May 2012	#115
Yup, exactly the same thing	obamanut2012	May 2012	#123
Here's someone it almost happened to, his child was saved by a quirk of fate..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#116
You either don't want to understand this or can't	obamanut2012	May 2012	#122
I understand it perfectly.	SixString	May 2012	#125
You are confusing "excuse" and "justifying" with "explaining"	uppityperson	May 2012	#155
Well,	SixString	May 2012	#160
Read this to understand how it happens.	undeterred	May 2012	#143
It appears you decided to ignore the article.	sibelian	May 2012	#171
For the people judging this woman	Dorian Gray	May 2012	#117
Yep.	Union Scribe	May 2012	#166
How hard would it be to program the car...	B2G	May 2012	#119
That's an excellent idea	obamanut2012	May 2012	#124
The seatbelt is latched to the car seat.	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#130
Hmm...true. Perhaps a weight sensor in the carseats	B2G	May 2012	#142
Sounds good to me.	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#145
The more I think about it...	B2G	May 2012	#144
I just put the diaper bag in the front seat	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#146
To the people in this thread who are pointing the finger:	Skinner	May 2012	#127
This article really opened my eyes. Several have linked it in this thread:	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#132
Maybe this thread can help remind people to take that extra second to glance at the back seat...	cynatnite	May 2012	#147
retro-active darwinism...	OneTenthofOnePercent	May 2012	#128
That is really a distasteful post	obamanut2012	May 2012	#153
Don't blame Charles Darwin for your personal, distasteful viewpoints. nt	msanthrope	May 2012	#169
I don't think that's terribly insightful.	sibelian	May 2012	#172
We expect working parents to show up for work and focus exclusively	hedgehog	May 2012	#129
I left my kid in the car. And I DEFY any poster on this board who would DARE blame me.	msanthrope	May 2012	#131
You left your kid in the car for 5 minutes	Rex	May 2012	#149
Forgetting your child does not = forgetting your child?	uppityperson	May 2012	#156
Oh I agree it is the same, but the results are different.	Rex	May 2012	#161
But do you understand how easily I could have been walking into work, or into something else	msanthrope	May 2012	#168
Yes yes I do understand.	Rex	May 2012	#183
How long ago did this happen?	Number23	May 2012	#162
9 years ago. I still get a tremor thinking about it. The people who don't 'get' this	msanthrope	May 2012	#167
Absolutely. Minds can be made to fail by stress.	sibelian	May 2012	#173
Someone needs to invent a motion detector/alarm inside automobiles, after being turned off.	tawadi	May 2012	#136
Sometimes good people make mistakes that have tragic consequences	varelse	May 2012	#140
Yes, the mother is experiencing things I shudder to	Rex	May 2012	#150
This. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	May 2012	#178
How do you forget another lifeform a few feet away from you?	Rex	May 2012	#148
It happens 25 times every year in this country	proud2BlibKansan	May 2012	#151
Easy to see how this could happen.	gulliver	May 2012	#159
I have forgotten many things in my car.	Beacool	May 2012	#163
Often it seems they skip going to child care and leave the kid in the back when they park at work..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#164
I'm not standing in judgment.	Beacool	May 2012	#180
This is a horrible, just horrible tragedy...	tallahasseedem	May 2012	#177

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