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ProSense

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11. Really?

Fri May 4, 2012, 12:07 PM

May 2012

"Obama was an inexperienced rookie and it showed"

Again with the 'inexperienced' line?
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Employment is flatlining. [View all] MadHound May 2012 OP

The economy created 115,000 jobs in April and unemployment dropped to 8.1% - boo hoo hoo jpak May 2012 #1

115,000 jobs created vs 342,000 discouraged workers dropping out of the labor force MadHound May 2012 #2

You have a point... KansDem May 2012 #5

Why do you give Reagan credit for a downward UE trend, and yet ignore the same trend for Obama? JoePhilly May 2012 #6

obama bad obama bad obama bad obama bad obama bad obama bad obama bad obama bad obama bad obama bad dionysus May 2012 #59

Exactly! We Democrats are our own worse enemy! Always a fucking Debbie Downer! It depresses the vote Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #74

Obama 2012 jpak May 2012 #7

Congratulations! Hawkowl May 2012 #24

Congratulations jpak May 2012 #55

Where does this figure 342,000 cliffordu May 2012 #60

Well, unlike some folks, MadHound May 2012 #61

Soooooo you have absolutely no proof whatsoever... cliffordu May 2012 #62

No, I have basic math MadHound May 2012 #63

I think the goal is to bring the level of discussion down.. girl gone mad May 2012 #70

No, the economy lost jobs. Yo_Mama May 2012 #65

So all those people who died had jobs and those who were just born need one? That doesnt make sense stevenleser May 2012 #66

People who have died or who are very young are not counted. Yo_Mama May 2012 #73

150,000 new jobs a month are needed just to keep up with population growth. Odin2005 May 2012 #79

'Learned his lesson'? I believe he's getting what he wants and fought for. Edweird May 2012 #3

UE is now at 8.1%, down almost 2% from its high of 10.0%. JoePhilly May 2012 #4

Peak UE was 10.2% - so we are down over 2 points... jpak May 2012 #8

I also find it interesting that no matter which way UE moves ... its bad news for Obama. JoePhilly May 2012 #31

Hard facts don't matter for the average voter. Odin2005 May 2012 #80

No, trend lines don't matter in real world politics MadHound May 2012 #14

If they don't matter, then why did you mention the trend for Reagan? JoePhilly May 2012 #29

Pfft. The unemployment trend matters more than the number. AtomicKitten May 2012 #64

Consider ProSense May 2012 #9

And yet the pool of discouraged workers is expanding MadHound May 2012 #12

That was ProSense May 2012 #15

Still not addressing discouraged workers, eh? MadHound May 2012 #17

Funny, but I remember when this came up in 2009.. girl gone mad May 2012 #68

Obama was an inexperienced rookie and it showed paulk May 2012 #10

Really? ProSense May 2012 #11

yes, really paulk May 2012 #16

Yeah, ProSense May 2012 #21

you, as usual, resort to ad hominums paulk May 2012 #33

It's what she's got. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #39

No, unlike you ProSense May 2012 #40

Funny you should try that tack. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #45

My gut ProSense May 2012 #48

Point made. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #49

Wait ProSense May 2012 #50

My apologies then. The laughing guy made me think it was sarcasm. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #53

Aw ProSense May 2012 #41

again, the attempt to demean, belittle, ridicule, etc paulk May 2012 #44

Again, whining. n/t ProSense May 2012 #47

wait paulk May 2012 #54

Thanks, and ProSense May 2012 #57

Ad Homs is all she has. Odin2005 May 2012 #81

Yes, yes he was. MadHound May 2012 #13

How do we know all those workers are 'discouraged'? rox63 May 2012 #18

When the number raises that much, it ain't a bunch of retirees MadHound May 2012 #20

The BLS runs a survey of households from which it derives its numbers. Consider coalition_unwilling May 2012 #23

Actually I blame Rahm Emmanuel (Obama's first Chief of Staff) as much as coalition_unwilling May 2012 #19

I don't disagree with you about Rahm's role MadHound May 2012 #22

The economy now is doing exactly what Krugman and Stiglitz predicted would coalition_unwilling May 2012 #25

Krugman: ProSense May 2012 #27

Good points, ProSense, and important that Obama not be saddled coalition_unwilling May 2012 #46

It was the BLUE DOGS in Congress who pressed the president to reduce the stimulus, adding in tax cut Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #75

Thank you for that refresher. I had forgotten Biden's interview. And coalition_unwilling May 2012 #76

Obama still wins despite your bloviating soliloquy MjolnirTime May 2012 #26

Really? MadHound May 2012 #30

I hope he does win.. girl gone mad May 2012 #71

as long as Repubs nationwide are cutting state govt jobs, and Repub private employers concur librechik May 2012 #28

Please show me. sendero May 2012 #32

Good Point--Governors of both parties are driven to balance state budgets by mandate librechik May 2012 #35

I will agree.. sendero May 2012 #67

Which is why Obama should have listened to progressives from day one.. girl gone mad May 2012 #72

yes indeed--as it turns out he would have lost nothing by treading a more liberal path librechik May 2012 #78

democrats are also cutting state jobs. HiPointDem May 2012 #38

You're wrong about discouraged workers as well as why people left the labor force mathematic May 2012 #34

Like most purposely obscured indications of what is happening, Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #42

Thanks for the facts rox63 May 2012 #43

And baby boomers will retire treestar May 2012 #51

You're parroting Mitt RMoney's talking points this a.m. AtomicKitten May 2012 #36

Good call. FSogol May 2012 #37

And you're using semi-racist terminology MadHound May 2012 #56

Thanks for keeping things upbeat in an Election Year Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #52

LOL, what a load of bullshit. dionysus May 2012 #58

!!! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #69

That isn't what I'm seeing. sofa king May 2012 #77