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In the discussion thread: Georgia Governor Approves Ban On Abortions After 20 Weeks With No Exception For Rape Or Incest [View all]

Response to uppityperson (Reply #43)

Thu May 3, 2012, 02:33 PM

laundry_queen (4,292 posts)

67. Thank you

that's the point I was trying to make upthread. People act like women decide suddenly at 38 wks they don't want to be pregnant and they stroll into a center for an abortion.

Um, hahaha. Like that's EVER happened.

I also know someone who found out, at 25 weeks, that her baby had anencephaly. She immediately opted for termination. 6 weeks later she was pregnant again and gave birth to a healthy baby. For her, carrying that anencephalic baby to term would have been extremely traumatizing. She matters too, she's not simply some kind of vessel for a fetus. And every restriction imposed on abortion insinuates that that's all a woman is good for - her uterus.

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132 replies	Author	Time	Post
Georgia Governor Approves Ban On Abortions After 20 Weeks With No Exception For Rape Or Incest [View all]	ProSense	May 2012	OP
So that 11 year old who was raped has to carry to term.	Lars39	May 2012	#1
No - it is not making abortion illegal (yet)	Ruby the Liberal	May 2012	#3
MY friend was raped at 11 years old	HockeyMom	May 2012	#4
The abortion debate will never be solved with demagoguery	lacrew	May 2012	#6
Chip, chip, chip	get the red out	May 2012	#7
Good grief!	ProSense	May 2012	#8
This post was hidden by jury decision.	lacrew	May 2012	#12
So what	ProSense	May 2012	#14
Actually no	lacrew	May 2012	#24
BS.	laundry_queen	May 2012	#66
Ah...BS	lacrew	May 2012	#80
And..BS	uppityperson	May 2012	#83
Since you have called somebody's opinion 'BS'	lacrew	May 2012	#87
Huh, let me quote you "Ah...BS". That wasn't calling someone's opinion BS? Another sad misunderstand	uppityperson	May 2012	#100
I was quoting Laundry_queens well detailed response to me	lacrew	May 2012	#113
You continue to use "live" & "alive" as qualifiers yet refuse to define the terms.	uppityperson	May 2012	#121
LOL, like 'BS' is name calling	laundry_queen	May 2012	#88
Yes, I am ok with 20 weeks being the limit	lacrew	May 2012	#94
I have not read Roe v wade	laundry_queen	May 2012	#98
"a fetus as early as 24 weeks is protected, and has rights which should be compared with the mother'	uppityperson	May 2012	#103
That's my line....wasn't in quotes, don't know why you think it is one	lacrew	May 2012	#115
More to the point anti-abortion laws go beyond the rights stripped	Johonny	May 2012	#39
The problem is not imaginary	lacrew	May 2012	#89
She has a choice - why in the name of God would she wait 20 weeks to make it???	adigal	May 2012	#45
I know the poster you are replying to said "11 yr old" but you continue to use that age in saying	uppityperson	May 2012	#17
11 year old	lacrew	May 2012	#26
Did you mean to say "fetus"? nt	TBF	May 2012	#21
I would bet no n/t	obamanut2012	May 2012	#27
Yup, my point exactly. nt	TBF	May 2012	#28
I will probably agree more with you when:	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#10
Fair points	lacrew	May 2012	#13
"an unknown pregnancy from rape or incest"? What? Why "unknown"? Is this law for only "unknown" pre	uppityperson	May 2012	#18
The unknown part comes from the deadline	lacrew	May 2012	#22
But	ProSense	May 2012	#25
Obviously we are not going to come to an agreement	lacrew	May 2012	#34
It is explained well here....	uppityperson	May 2012	#40
I didn't get to declare my fetus on my tax return. :( I do have more rights and standing.	uppityperson	May 2012	#43
Thank you	laundry_queen	May 2012	#67
This post was hidden by jury decision.	lacrew	May 2012	#92
So you are using	laundry_queen	May 2012	#95
Why does his license statur matter	lacrew	May 2012	#112
I'm not going to engage you any further.	laundry_queen	May 2012	#119
So you call 'bs' on me	lacrew	May 2012	#120
"an example of an illegal abortion mill". Exactly. What he was doing was illegal and what laws are	uppityperson	May 2012	#122
No	lacrew	May 2012	#93
Wtf?	uppityperson	May 2012	#102
You completely miss the point on Gosnell	lacrew	May 2012	#114
Your last sentence is why anti-choice people are beating us	adigal	May 2012	#48
Even at 39 week, I have more rights. Don't assume as much as you do about me or my opinions	uppityperson	May 2012	#50
Please don't label me either	adigal	May 2012	#56
Providing info on late abortions, not arguing whether an abortion involves killing a fetus.	uppityperson	May 2012	#61
oh dear. I hate to get into this one but	cali	May 2012	#127
I do have more rights than a fetus. Including in many cases, right to have life protected.	uppityperson	May 2012	#128
Starting at the bottom of the post:	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#85
Because you don't think this law affects very many people, it doesn't matter one way or the other?	yardwork	May 2012	#16
For some reason he is focusing on 11 yr olds that don't know they are pg until 20 weeks.	uppityperson	May 2012	#19
What I said	lacrew	May 2012	#23
I didn't call anybody pro-rapist, but I am appalled that you think something doesn't matter	yardwork	May 2012	#37
You are appalled because you are not reading what I am saying	lacrew	May 2012	#91
It looks like lacrew was banned	Marzupialis	May 2012	#130
That is very poor logic, basing all fertile raped/incested women on the subset of 11 yr old	uppityperson	May 2012	#20
i agree with u	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#32
See my post #37.	yardwork	May 2012	#38
20 weeks is not viable...	likesmountains 52	May 2012	#109
it is the medical definition	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#116
so in other words you are anti-choice?	maddezmom	May 2012	#123
I agree with you 100% - as babies are born younger and younger	adigal	May 2012	#42
Sometimes a c-sect or vag delivery isn't possible, in rare cases. Serious pg related health issues	uppityperson	May 2012	#47
I believe most reasonable people would believe that a fetus without a brain	adigal	May 2012	#49
You might be surprised	NickB79	May 2012	#51
Exactly and thank you for your civil and rational post.	uppityperson	May 2012	#53
I said reasonable - even very pro-life people saw Schiavo as dead	adigal	May 2012	#57
psst, there are very few people who say that. Most of us appreciate being able to get the health	uppityperson	May 2012	#63
2 points. The "human being" definition. Eclampsia.	uppityperson	May 2012	#52
So they kill the fetus, but still have to get it out of the woman	adigal	May 2012	#58
It isn't as risky. Labor is quite hard on the body. Some women have easier labor	uppityperson	May 2012	#62
Most anti-choicers aren't reasonable people. nt.	Mariana	May 2012	#82
Question: if a c-section or vaginal birth isn't possible, what do they do with the dead 39 week old	adigal	May 2012	#60
It's the pro-lifers who want the fetus to stay in the woman until they are both dead.	yardwork	May 2012	#64
An emergency c-section should be safe for the fetus	adigal	May 2012	#70
Because her health care providers have decided due to their extensive education and experience that	uppityperson	May 2012	#73
I think there is some misunderstanding here.	yardwork	May 2012	#75
Thank you.	uppityperson	May 2012	#77
And you didn't have an answer n/t	adigal	May 2012	#86
Sometimes it can be difficult to see who answers whom. You seem to have missed my answer. here...	uppityperson	May 2012	#99
After an abortion, the fetus may go to pathologist, or be cremated, or given for burial.	uppityperson	May 2012	#68
You are avoiding answering my question about abortion to save the mother	adigal	May 2012	#72
My apologies, I misunderstood. Because her health care providers have decided due to their extensive	uppityperson	May 2012	#74
You don't want to recognize that sometimes the baby dies, no matter how much everybody tries.	yardwork	May 2012	#76
"Because the woman doesn't want the baby. That is what I think." Have you ever been around a woman	uppityperson	May 2012	#79
I had a miscarriage myself, you sure like to scold	adigal	May 2012	#90
A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. Calling a highly offensive post highly offensive is "scold	uppityperson	May 2012	#101
The presence of other injuries causing heavy bleeding	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#110
But they are going to remove the fetus anyway	adigal	May 2012	#111
This article should answer your questions:	Lars39	May 2012	#118
I believe I just covered that	LadyHawkAZ	May 2012	#131
Here ya go: the fetus is still living but not viable (as in, will not survive birth	Gormy Cuss	May 2012	#126
You said,	Boudica the Lyoness	May 2012	#54
Always interesting when a poster does a "I don't know about...but based on that I support..."	CreekDog	May 2012	#78
yes, it's probably a relatively small subset. Does that mean, that in YOUR mind, it's alright	cali	May 2012	#125
He's been sent back to freeperland.	uppityperson	May 2012	#129
no she can abort anytime before 5 months	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#30
There's a good chance the pregnant child & the fetus would both die in childbirth.	Lars39	May 2012	#46
I am so torn over this...she should tell someone, hopefully,	adigal	May 2012	#41
Just amazing.	atreides1	May 2012	#2
The major sponsor of this bill was Athens' own representative Doug McKillip (AKA Douche McDickless).	Erose999	May 2012	#5
In zombie like Nader speak. There is no difference between democrats and republicans.	bluestate10	May 2012	#9
The REALLY nasty part of this bill is the so-called "compromise" for women whose fetus is non-viable	NC_Nurse	May 2012	#11
+1000	Liberal_in_LA	May 2012	#55
But inflicting pain on children who seem to be gay is essential to good parenting.	yardwork	May 2012	#15
there does have to be a cutoff. 5 months is reasonable	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#29
I don't think there's been a single one that survived	Mariana	May 2012	#31
well that was considered the age of viability 30	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#33
There's never been a baby born at 20 weeks and survive.	tammywammy	May 2012	#35
not a lot of leeway there	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#105
I suspect it shouldn't be hard to find many examples, then.	Mariana	May 2012	#81
provide ur own	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#104
No way was that viable 30 years ago. I have been an NICU nurse since 1978	likesmountains 52	May 2012	#108
my data?	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#117
" For some reason people on this site thinks everyone needs a sorce for fact". Well, yes, we do.	uppityperson	May 2012	#124
fuck that. Call it what you want n/t	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#132
21 weeks per another poster.	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#107
I think it's not your decision to make for others.	tammywammy	May 2012	#36
We make decisions about moral issues all of the time in the law	adigal	May 2012	#59
That was 1 of the basis of Roe v Wade. Making healthcare more equal regardless of money/power	uppityperson	May 2012	#65
And I am sure they still do it n/t	adigal	May 2012	#69
Unfortunately. Rather like the rich/powerful have indentured servants and do all sorts	uppityperson	May 2012	#71
And I agree with you completely and totally.	hamsterjill	May 2012	#84
the life of the mother has always taken	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#106
Umm, that's what we have doctors for...	Hippo_Tron	May 2012	#96
din't all the farm workers leave Georgia because of a draconian law there?	librechik	May 2012	#44
God damn them!!! They don't need to overturn Roe V Wade - it's officially become moot.	Initech	May 2012	#97

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