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In the discussion thread: Democrats Have Moved to the Right, Not the Left [View all]

Wed May 2, 2012, 12:12 PM

cbdo2007 (6,566 posts)

28. Effective governing always includes compromise....

which is why our greatest Presidents aren't seen as those who ruled rigidly down their party line. The idea isn't to turn the country into your own utopia, it's to create the most good for the most people, even if something is contrary to your ideals. Nobody can be all right all of the time.

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109 replies	Author	Time	Post
Democrats Have Moved to the Right, Not the Left [View all]	xchrom	May 2012	OP
Slashing Social Security is a far, far right value	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#1
You've heard of the ratchet theory?	liberalmike27	May 2012	#9
Like	dpbrown	May 2012	#25
Any second ... SLASH!!!!	JoePhilly	May 2012	#40
Is there something specific that you'd like to point out?	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#41
Sure, but it should be obvious.	JoePhilly	May 2012	#44
Are you claiming that Obama and other Dems haven't called for Social Security to be slashed?	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#45
Please post the video of Obama calling for Slashing Social Security. There must be one.	JoePhilly	May 2012	#48
We can start with the 2011 State of the Union Address	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#52
Other than that, Manny, you got nothin'.	rhett o rick	May 2012	#54
You got me.	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#74
Weird that people still pretend Obama's not an austerian.	girl gone mad	May 2012	#71
must be entertaining to live in an alternate reality... where the debbil obama slashes SS...	dionysus	May 2012	#77
Are you claiming that Obama hasn't called for cuts in Social Security benefits?	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#79
not going to play your game, manny, we all know what you're doing here.	dionysus	May 2012	#81
Good call.	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#82
Unfortunately, the SoU quote Manny posted proves he's right.	Ken Burch	May 2012	#90
I'm going to need to get one of the "Obama is evil" decorder rings.	JoePhilly	May 2012	#98
The quote you posted from the 2011 State of the Union says the exact oppoiste of what you say it	JoePhilly	May 2012	#97
One step at a time. It seems that	MannyGoldstein	May 2012	#105
So why do Obama and other Dems keep talking about it? n/t	eridani	May 2012	#61
It's Like a Perpetual Game of Tennis	liberalmike27	May 2012	#69
+ 1 million n/t	eridani	May 2012	#72
It seems that our political spectrum spans from the John Birch Society to the Republican Party	myrna minx	May 2012	#2
To be fair..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#3
Fluorinated water makes that fact escape the 'baggers !11!	myrna minx	May 2012	#5
This is	ProSense	May 2012	#4
So ProSense, are you saying that you fundamentally disagree with a major point	bullwinkle428	May 2012	#20
Nope	ProSense	May 2012	#30
Eh...	kenfrequed	May 2012	#65
The Obama administration doesn't deserve credit for declining prison populations.	Comrade Grumpy	May 2012	#32
As I pointed	ProSense	May 2012	#36
still growing faster than the population is.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#93
Democrats in office have moved right on foreign policy, economics, health care, and energy	YoungDemCA	May 2012	#91
Dems have maintained (maybe even advanced) the line	Jackpine Radical	May 2012	#6
As Bill Maher said: Democrats have moved to the right, and Republicans have moved to the asylum.	marmar	May 2012	#7
ain't that right? nt	xchrom	May 2012	#8
Democrats are taking over the Republican role and donor list	kenny blankenship	May 2012	#46
That about sums it up. nt	TBF	May 2012	#66
They want to keep the Deep Pockets happy and appreciative	radhika	May 2012	#10
Yep, they have. Only I would say they have moved right on all but social issues.	20score	May 2012	#11
Correct.....They're for anything that doesn't cost money...Yes, the Dems have moved to the Right	whathehell	May 2012	#99
I do not believe they can continue to move to the right...	kentuck	May 2012	#12
Maybe they can get elected but	hay rick	May 2012	#16
I dont agree. I see the Democratic Party moving right and becoming the Centrist Party	rhett o rick	May 2012	#56
Would that be good or bad?	kentuck	May 2012	#68
IMO it would be bad. It would be essentially a one party system. nm	rhett o rick	May 2012	#103
Agreed...I find the president's silence on labor issues very disturbing.	whathehell	May 2012	#100
If you look at if from a bourgeois liberal viewpoint it certainly seems that way..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#13
If you look at it from a populist liberal viewpoint, it definitely IS that way.	marmar	May 2012	#14
Evidently you haven't read this yet..	Fumesucker	May 2012	#18
When I refer to liberal populism, I'm not talking about elected officials.	marmar	May 2012	#21
I have one quibble with this OP.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#15
Look no further than today's news	gratuitous	May 2012	#17
"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2012	#19
There, in a nutshell, is my rationale for being adamantly independent and anti-partisan.	TahitiNut	May 2012	#26
indeed, that's been obvious for years	stupidicus	May 2012	#22
+1	xchrom	May 2012	#23
K&R n/t	DeSwiss	May 2012	#24
I feel like my party keeps trying to appeal to Dennis Miller.	raouldukelives	May 2012	#27
That nails it for me. Thanks! n/t	Egalitarian Thug	May 2012	#89
Effective governing always includes compromise....	cbdo2007	May 2012	#28
kinda funny	hfojvt	May 2012	#35
Compromise does NOT mean splitting every decision 50/50.	cbdo2007	May 2012	#42
oh, I get that all too well	hfojvt	May 2012	#43
Wow, your knowledge about our President is just as bad as	cbdo2007	May 2012	#51
That's a cute sentiment, but it doesn't describe reality.	Marr	May 2012	#107
And in other news, water is wet	RufusTFirefly	May 2012	#29
I respectfully disagree with this theory.	Jamaal510	May 2012	#31
cap and trade is not even a progressive solution. it creates a new market scam	yurbud	May 2012	#33
This is the	ProSense	May 2012	#39
the article you linked said there wasn't necessarily a causal link	yurbud	May 2012	#55
+1. just another rentier class "solution". the money men make money, the rest of us pay for it.	HiPointDem	May 2012	#94
some of us will be fortunate enough to live next to those who bought pollution credits	yurbud	May 2012	#102
That is the problem.	Octafish	May 2012	#34
How does any parasite sleep at night?	white_wolf	May 2012	#49
It's just business, it's not personal. nm	rhett o rick	May 2012	#53
On designer sheets. /nt	Marr	May 2012	#108
From what I understand the Democratic party are third-way (centrism) party. (nt)	MichaelMcGuire	May 2012	#37
I don't consider doing what is right moving to the left.	jp11	May 2012	#38
Thank You For Your "Concern"	SpencerShay	May 2012	#47
First of all, the OP didn't push any third party.	white_wolf	May 2012	#50
Xchrom does not deserve this personal attack (nt)	MichaelMcGuire	May 2012	#57
+ 1	AnotherMcIntosh	May 2012	#64
xchrom doesn't deserve this nasty reply, nor is simply posting this article from Mother Jones	myrna minx	May 2012	#59
+ 1	AnotherMcIntosh	May 2012	#63
What a rude response to a valued member of Democratic Underground.	demmiblue	May 2012	#62
This is a discussion board. Please don't engage in personal attacks against DU'ers.	Better Believe It	May 2012	#67
"what kind of idiot"	paulk	May 2012	#70
Horribly rude, ucalled for response!	markpkessinger	May 2012	#73
thank you for yours	fascisthunter	May 2012	#76
I see you've met our welcoming committee here. LOL.	AtomicKitten	May 2012	#80
and thank you for YOUR "concern"	Raine	May 2012	#84
A little new to the party to be dropping the 'Concern' brick, aren't we?	WilliamPitt	May 2012	#104
"and try to get other democrats to vote third party, in order to help republicans win elections"	marmar	May 2012	#106
Cap-and-trade	usrname	May 2012	#58
Endless War, War on Drugs, Mandatory for profit insurance, Bankster bailouts...	Romulox	May 2012	#60
Even "Cap & Trade" is an old Republican idea.	bvar22	May 2012	#75
Yes, EXACTLY.. nt	Raine	May 2012	#86
Metrics and social issues have changed	DaveJ	May 2012	#78
I agree - they've moved to the right...	polichick	May 2012	#83
EXACTLY on point. nt	Raine	May 2012	#85
K&R (n/t)	a2liberal	May 2012	#87
j'adore xchrom	MNBrewer	May 2012	#88
which is why I say Conservatives control congress	PatrynXX	May 2012	#92
in today's world mittens dad would be a moderate democrat	madrchsod	May 2012	#95
There's about a 2% diff. btwn (R) and (D) nowadays.	blkmusclmachine	May 2012	#96
Yeah, over 30 years ago. Independents did the same thing	NNN0LHI	May 2012	#101
Since there's a consensus that the Left has been ineffective at influencing the Democratic Party	Telly Savalas	May 2012	#109

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