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Fumesucker

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13. If you look at if from a bourgeois liberal viewpoint it certainly seems that way..

Wed May 2, 2012, 11:01 AM

May 2012

But you have to realize that there are certain conservative viewpoints that today's Democratic party finds more attractive.

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Democrats Have Moved to the Right, Not the Left [View all] xchrom May 2012 OP

Slashing Social Security is a far, far right value MannyGoldstein May 2012 #1

You've heard of the ratchet theory? liberalmike27 May 2012 #9

Like dpbrown May 2012 #25

Any second ... SLASH!!!! JoePhilly May 2012 #40

Is there something specific that you'd like to point out? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #41

Sure, but it should be obvious. JoePhilly May 2012 #44

Are you claiming that Obama and other Dems haven't called for Social Security to be slashed? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #45

Please post the video of Obama calling for Slashing Social Security. There must be one. JoePhilly May 2012 #48

We can start with the 2011 State of the Union Address MannyGoldstein May 2012 #52

Other than that, Manny, you got nothin'. rhett o rick May 2012 #54

You got me. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #74

Weird that people still pretend Obama's not an austerian. girl gone mad May 2012 #71

must be entertaining to live in an alternate reality... where the debbil obama slashes SS... dionysus May 2012 #77

Are you claiming that Obama hasn't called for cuts in Social Security benefits? MannyGoldstein May 2012 #79

not going to play your game, manny, we all know what you're doing here. dionysus May 2012 #81

Good call. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #82

Unfortunately, the SoU quote Manny posted proves he's right. Ken Burch May 2012 #90

I'm going to need to get one of the "Obama is evil" decorder rings. JoePhilly May 2012 #98

The quote you posted from the 2011 State of the Union says the exact oppoiste of what you say it JoePhilly May 2012 #97

One step at a time. It seems that MannyGoldstein May 2012 #105

So why do Obama and other Dems keep talking about it? n/t eridani May 2012 #61

It's Like a Perpetual Game of Tennis liberalmike27 May 2012 #69

+ 1 million n/t eridani May 2012 #72

It seems that our political spectrum spans from the John Birch Society to the Republican Party myrna minx May 2012 #2

To be fair.. Fumesucker May 2012 #3

Fluorinated water makes that fact escape the 'baggers !11! myrna minx May 2012 #5

This is ProSense May 2012 #4

So ProSense, are you saying that you fundamentally disagree with a major point bullwinkle428 May 2012 #20

Nope ProSense May 2012 #30

Eh... kenfrequed May 2012 #65

The Obama administration doesn't deserve credit for declining prison populations. Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #32

As I pointed ProSense May 2012 #36

still growing faster than the population is. HiPointDem May 2012 #93

Democrats in office have moved right on foreign policy, economics, health care, and energy YoungDemCA May 2012 #91

Dems have maintained (maybe even advanced) the line Jackpine Radical May 2012 #6

As Bill Maher said: Democrats have moved to the right, and Republicans have moved to the asylum. marmar May 2012 #7

ain't that right? nt xchrom May 2012 #8

Democrats are taking over the Republican role and donor list kenny blankenship May 2012 #46

That about sums it up. nt TBF May 2012 #66

They want to keep the Deep Pockets happy and appreciative radhika May 2012 #10

Yep, they have. Only I would say they have moved right on all but social issues. 20score May 2012 #11

Correct.....They're for anything that doesn't cost money...Yes, the Dems have moved to the Right whathehell May 2012 #99

I do not believe they can continue to move to the right... kentuck May 2012 #12

Maybe they can get elected but hay rick May 2012 #16

I dont agree. I see the Democratic Party moving right and becoming the Centrist Party rhett o rick May 2012 #56

Would that be good or bad? kentuck May 2012 #68

IMO it would be bad. It would be essentially a one party system. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #103

Agreed...I find the president's silence on labor issues very disturbing. whathehell May 2012 #100

If you look at if from a bourgeois liberal viewpoint it certainly seems that way.. Fumesucker May 2012 #13

If you look at it from a populist liberal viewpoint, it definitely IS that way. marmar May 2012 #14

Evidently you haven't read this yet.. Fumesucker May 2012 #18

When I refer to liberal populism, I'm not talking about elected officials. marmar May 2012 #21

I have one quibble with this OP. JDPriestly May 2012 #15

Look no further than today's news gratuitous May 2012 #17

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #19

There, in a nutshell, is my rationale for being adamantly independent and anti-partisan. TahitiNut May 2012 #26

indeed, that's been obvious for years stupidicus May 2012 #22

+1 xchrom May 2012 #23

K&R n/t DeSwiss May 2012 #24

I feel like my party keeps trying to appeal to Dennis Miller. raouldukelives May 2012 #27

That nails it for me. Thanks! n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #89

Effective governing always includes compromise.... cbdo2007 May 2012 #28

kinda funny hfojvt May 2012 #35

Compromise does NOT mean splitting every decision 50/50. cbdo2007 May 2012 #42

oh, I get that all too well hfojvt May 2012 #43

Wow, your knowledge about our President is just as bad as cbdo2007 May 2012 #51

That's a cute sentiment, but it doesn't describe reality. Marr May 2012 #107

And in other news, water is wet RufusTFirefly May 2012 #29

I respectfully disagree with this theory. Jamaal510 May 2012 #31

cap and trade is not even a progressive solution. it creates a new market scam yurbud May 2012 #33

This is the ProSense May 2012 #39

the article you linked said there wasn't necessarily a causal link yurbud May 2012 #55

+1. just another rentier class "solution". the money men make money, the rest of us pay for it. HiPointDem May 2012 #94

some of us will be fortunate enough to live next to those who bought pollution credits yurbud May 2012 #102

That is the problem. Octafish May 2012 #34

How does any parasite sleep at night? white_wolf May 2012 #49

It's just business, it's not personal. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #53

On designer sheets. /nt Marr May 2012 #108

From what I understand the Democratic party are third-way (centrism) party. (nt) MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #37

I don't consider doing what is right moving to the left. jp11 May 2012 #38

Thank You For Your "Concern" SpencerShay May 2012 #47

First of all, the OP didn't push any third party. white_wolf May 2012 #50

Xchrom does not deserve this personal attack (nt) MichaelMcGuire May 2012 #57

+ 1 AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #64

xchrom doesn't deserve this nasty reply, nor is simply posting this article from Mother Jones myrna minx May 2012 #59

+ 1 AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #63

What a rude response to a valued member of Democratic Underground. demmiblue May 2012 #62

This is a discussion board. Please don't engage in personal attacks against DU'ers. Better Believe It May 2012 #67

"what kind of idiot" paulk May 2012 #70

Horribly rude, ucalled for response! markpkessinger May 2012 #73

thank you for yours fascisthunter May 2012 #76

I see you've met our welcoming committee here. LOL. AtomicKitten May 2012 #80

and thank you for YOUR "concern" Raine May 2012 #84

A little new to the party to be dropping the 'Concern' brick, aren't we? WilliamPitt May 2012 #104

"and try to get other democrats to vote third party, in order to help republicans win elections" marmar May 2012 #106

Cap-and-trade usrname May 2012 #58

Endless War, War on Drugs, Mandatory for profit insurance, Bankster bailouts... Romulox May 2012 #60

Even "Cap & Trade" is an old Republican idea. bvar22 May 2012 #75

Yes, EXACTLY.. nt Raine May 2012 #86

Metrics and social issues have changed DaveJ May 2012 #78

I agree - they've moved to the right... polichick May 2012 #83

EXACTLY on point. nt Raine May 2012 #85

K&R (n/t) a2liberal May 2012 #87

j'adore xchrom MNBrewer May 2012 #88

which is why I say Conservatives control congress PatrynXX May 2012 #92

in today's world mittens dad would be a moderate democrat madrchsod May 2012 #95

There's about a 2% diff. btwn (R) and (D) nowadays. blkmusclmachine May 2012 #96

Yeah, over 30 years ago. Independents did the same thing NNN0LHI May 2012 #101

Since there's a consensus that the Left has been ineffective at influencing the Democratic Party Telly Savalas May 2012 #109