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Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:17 PM

Warpy (69,667 posts)

4. For a short time, we actually did slow aging a bit

People my grandparents' age (born between 1870 and 1881) were getting old in their 40s. Getting their three score an ten was a real achievement and few were in good enough shape to qualify for those "active retiree" villages. Better food and medical care allowed their children to remain active through their mid 70s.

My generation started getting stiffed on wages and health care and gawd knows the food has been getting worse as incomes have gone down.

If this trend doesn't reverse soon, we'll see our children getting old in their 40s.

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59 replies	Author	Time	Post
Krugman just shut down the "raise the retirement age argument" George Will said raise it [View all]	Pisces	Apr 2012	OP
Definitely not. Guys like Will have no clue what work is for some people. If you	brewens	Apr 2012	#1
My body conked out in my mid 50s	Warpy	Apr 2012	#3
The appropriate phrase her is "he doesn't think of it at all"	JHB	Apr 2012	#13
I'm convinced the whole thing is seriously planned to take us back to the 1800's.	brewens	Apr 2012	#17
Their actions on the education front show the same plan. No need to educate people whose only value	freshwest	Apr 2012	#19
Look at the increasing costs of post-secondary education.	chervilant	Apr 2012	#27
I read something some time back, that I think illustrates what you are saying, too.	freshwest	Apr 2012	#41
Depressing just doesn't cover it...	chervilant	Apr 2012	#43
Add in the massive numbers of people who will be displaced by climate change	Lars39	Apr 2012	#44
Life expectancy is meaningless unless the quality of life is prolonged	aint_no_life_nowhere	Apr 2012	#2
For a short time, we actually did slow aging a bit	Warpy	Apr 2012	#4
Better food and medicine only allowed people to live out their full potetial life expectancy	aint_no_life_nowhere	Apr 2012	#7
Life expectancy does NOT equal ability to work	ProfessionalLeftist	Apr 2012	#5
I prefer means testing to help Social Security.	DCBob	Apr 2012	#6
While that does seem like a reasonable solution there is a danger hidden in it. Right now it is hard	jwirr	Apr 2012	#9
Yes, I see your point. Maybe it could be set up like a deferred payment..	DCBob	Apr 2012	#16
ooh, you mean like a "personal account?" yeah, maybe everyone could invest their own, too.	HiPointDem	Apr 2012	#24
no, that is not at all what I am suggesting.	DCBob	Apr 2012	#25
If that happens they'll put pressure on to limit it to the "truly needy"...	JHB	Apr 2012	#15
All they need to do is get rid of the cap on SS tax	groundloop	Apr 2012	#20
Yes, that would no doubt help.	DCBob	Apr 2012	#21
No measures will help	DocMac	Apr 2012	#51
You'll also have to alter the benefits formula	customerserviceguy	Apr 2012	#33
Maximum payout per year is already capped	eridani	Apr 2012	#47
That cap is directly tied	customerserviceguy	Apr 2012	#54
Employers could pay a higher percentage, but this shouldn't go to infinity	eridani	May 2012	#58
helping the less fortunate is NOT what the RW wants. We are arguing from different premises.	CTyankee	Apr 2012	#52
You might like an idea I've suggested here before	customerserviceguy	Apr 2012	#31
That generally sounds more fair..	DCBob	Apr 2012	#34
I suggest WC records	customerserviceguy	Apr 2012	#35
Probaby best not to mention a paper cut in a logger bar.	DCBob	Apr 2012	#37
You'll get beer bottles hurled at you!	customerserviceguy	Apr 2012	#42
I prefer not making republican arguments on DU.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#36
Why is that a Republican argument??	DCBob	Apr 2012	#38
Effective reductions in benefits will target the middle class.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#40
Means testing would be the Kiss of death of Social Security	happyslug	Apr 2012	#46
Social Security is not directly means-tested, but because of our tax system, it	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#49
It was a thing of beauty. Krugman was on a roll this morning.	Gidney N Cloyd	Apr 2012	#8
Where was this?	eyewall	Apr 2012	#26
ThisWeek with George S. on ABC	Gidney N Cloyd	Apr 2012	#32
Thank you	eyewall	Apr 2012	#53
I work with children, and adults, with disabilities	HockeyMom	Apr 2012	#10
I hear you. My back gave out at 62. I lifted my daughter and pushed/lifted her wheelchair etc. for	jwirr	Apr 2012	#11
It will work for George Will's target audience ...	zbdent	Apr 2012	#12
Life expectancy is longer	sandyshoes17	Apr 2012	#14
+1	Gormy Cuss	Apr 2012	#22
Life expectancy increased because the elderly no longer die from starvation and hypothermia	fasttense	Apr 2012	#18
I believe this is what they want.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#23
Useless eaters	nobodyspecial	Apr 2012	#39
Not quite true. Life expectancy FROM BIRTH increased because--	eridani	Apr 2012	#48
If the retirement age is raised	Mz Pip	Apr 2012	#28
Exactly. And we already have rising unemployment for young workers.	shcrane71	Apr 2012	#30
Life expectancy at birth has gone up, and that doesn't matter at all	Recursion	Apr 2012	#29
George Will has been WRONG on EVERYTHING for 40 years...	lib2DaBone	Apr 2012	#45
It's easy to work until 74...	n2doc	Apr 2012	#50
what a piece of crook that statement is	Dokkie	Apr 2012	#55
k&r n/t	RainDog	Apr 2012	#56
We are being manipulated and unrepresented	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#57
Has pun-twit George "The Snore" Will had	tsuki	May 2012	#59

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