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http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/02/bread-gluten-rising-yeast-health-problemConsidering that you can now find gluten-free everything, from Bisquick to bagels, it seems remarkable that our national obsession with the wheat protein that gives bread its elasticity is only about a decade old. Doctors have long known about a relatively rare condition called celiac disease, in which gluten damages the small intestine. But in recent years, best-selling books like Wheat Belly and Grain Brain have popularized the notion that gluten is the hidden culprit behind a host of hard-to-diagnose health problems, from indigestion to fatigue. Once you excise bread and other wheat products from your diet, the books claim, you'll be on the path to everything from top mental performance to a svelte figure....
Wheat Belly's author, cardiologist William Davis, claims that modern agricultural breeding has changed the nature of gluten, turning it toxic. He argues that wheat varieties developed in the 1960s and '70s introduced a novel protein called gliadin that has led to all manner of chronic problems, including obesity and diabetes. Yet Davis' claims have been roundly criticized by grain scientists. For that matter, there's no scientific consensus on how prevalent gluten sensitivity is, what triggers it, or even if it exists at all....
Even so, Jones doesn't buy the notion that the modern breeding he shuns is causing bad reactions to bread. "It's not wheat itself," he says, pointing to a 2013 study by the US Department of Agriculture that found "no evidence" of increasing levels of gluten in wheat over the decades. Rather, Jones believes that the true problem with bread is how we make it. In commercial bakeries, rising time has been winnowed from hours or even days down to mere minutes, thanks to fast-acting yeasts and additives. By contrast, the team in Jones' laboratory, located in a rural stretch along Puget Sound, lets dough rise for as long as 12 hoursand they've found that the longer it rises, the less potent the gluten that remains in the finished bread....
Jones' conjecturethat modern baking, not modern breeding, is responsible for the mysterious rise in gluten-related troubleshas not been proved correct. But then again, neither has any other explanation. Jones plans to continue his research, but in the meantime, with a test population of one, I conducted my own experiments with Jones' method. I had drifted away from bread in recent years; it made me feel uncomfortably full. But when I made slow-fermented whole-wheat bread with a sourdough starter from Jones' lab, I felt greatas I do when I eat loaves made by the increasing number of bakeries that use traditional methods and shun additives. No offense, but that sure beats the gluten-free menu.
Wheat Belly's author, cardiologist William Davis, claims that modern agricultural breeding has changed the nature of gluten, turning it toxic. He argues that wheat varieties developed in the 1960s and '70s introduced a novel protein called gliadin that has led to all manner of chronic problems, including obesity and diabetes. Yet Davis' claims have been roundly criticized by grain scientists. For that matter, there's no scientific consensus on how prevalent gluten sensitivity is, what triggers it, or even if it exists at all....
Even so, Jones doesn't buy the notion that the modern breeding he shuns is causing bad reactions to bread. "It's not wheat itself," he says, pointing to a 2013 study by the US Department of Agriculture that found "no evidence" of increasing levels of gluten in wheat over the decades. Rather, Jones believes that the true problem with bread is how we make it. In commercial bakeries, rising time has been winnowed from hours or even days down to mere minutes, thanks to fast-acting yeasts and additives. By contrast, the team in Jones' laboratory, located in a rural stretch along Puget Sound, lets dough rise for as long as 12 hoursand they've found that the longer it rises, the less potent the gluten that remains in the finished bread....
Jones' conjecturethat modern baking, not modern breeding, is responsible for the mysterious rise in gluten-related troubleshas not been proved correct. But then again, neither has any other explanation. Jones plans to continue his research, but in the meantime, with a test population of one, I conducted my own experiments with Jones' method. I had drifted away from bread in recent years; it made me feel uncomfortably full. But when I made slow-fermented whole-wheat bread with a sourdough starter from Jones' lab, I felt greatas I do when I eat loaves made by the increasing number of bakeries that use traditional methods and shun additives. No offense, but that sure beats the gluten-free menu.
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Eating poison is not safe, no matter how one tries to deny that Truth. Glyphosate is poison.
Dont call me Shirley
Feb 2015
#13
That's an utterly meaningless assertion using a word that has little scientific value
Major Nikon
Feb 2015
#32
Since it's so stupid to eat or drink pesticides, then why is it suddenly safe to eat them in our
Dont call me Shirley
Feb 2015
#48
That discussion was locked as "creative speculation." Probably should not cite it....
yellowcanine
Feb 2015
#87
Thom Hartmann, no, try Stephanie Seneff - have to look at the actual source.
yellowcanine
Feb 2015
#111
Thanks for your concern but I don't have GI problems, including GI bleeding, since my GI doctor -- not a science denier --
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#51
No, his recommendation was based on the results of three blood tests I had for gluten sensitivity, which were based
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#53
I don't have Celiac, which is a particular type of damage to the upper intestine.
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#56
What you and this study are also ignoring is that gluten sensitivity can produce
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#64
And my sense of your position is that you've read a few articles recently that you found convincing
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#68
So, in your opinion, a single study involving 37 subjects that has not been repeated
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#74
Pooka Fey, unfortunately the blood tests only work if you continue to eat gluten
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#43
"modern Dwarf wheat is now completely genetically unrelated to traditional American Durham wheat."
yellowcanine
Feb 2015
#90
Not so. A culture/mother consists of two organisms (plus hundreds of irrelevant ones)
AngryAmish
Feb 2015
#46
I used to get such terrible heartburn after carb-heavy, wheat-filled breakfasts.
closeupready
Feb 2015
#12
Perhaps they refer to the handful who don't even suffer but over-respond to the gluten problem.
NYC_SKP
Feb 2015
#33
Of course dinner plates being the size of dinner platters have nothing to do with it.
Spitfire of ATJ
Feb 2015
#22
Gluten is not formed by fermentation; it's a complex of proteins in the wheat
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#85
No, gluten is in the wheat; that's why it's in other wheat products, not just bread
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#89
So this new theory is that the macro structure, rather than the chemistry, is the problem
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#97
The study you posted was about celiac disease, and said the gluten was degraded
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#100
"degradation by lactobacilli and fungal proteases during food processing"
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#103
Most of the gluten is converted into amino acids in this fermentation
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2015
#109
The gluten-free craze has been both a blessing and a curse for people with celiac.
Pacifist Patriot
Feb 2015
#81
that's interesting, but what would be the mechanism through which breads which rise longer
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#95