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ProSense

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31. Well,
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:05 AM
Apr 2012

"Until the Democratic Party leadership embraces real change
or the Democratic Party is replaced by a party that represents the 99%, nothing's going anywhere."

...that's an interesting attitude because you're waiting for the President to embrace a proposal, and you're waiting for the "Democratic Party leadership embraces real change" or be "replaced."

The proposals I linked to are from Democrats, and the change has to come from you. Certainly, you don't expect them to replace themselves.





There is a lack of will thus far to do what must be done. But wealth can be coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #1
We elect people to do the job MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #2
The People We Elect Are At The Mercy Of The 1% Due To Citizens United cantbeserious Apr 2012 #34
And what is the explanation/excuse for their actions before that putrid ruling? Mnemosyne Apr 2012 #52
+ a gazillion n/t chervilant Apr 2012 #129
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Apr 2012 #71
Then The Bigger Fish Theory Applies - Disappoint Koch Brothers And One Better Watch Out cantbeserious Apr 2012 #80
I'm afraid we will have to do this ourselves. Jake2413 Apr 2012 #116
Ummmm...... Coyote_Bandit Apr 2012 #118
We no longer have a National Will Joe Bacon Apr 2012 #82
I hope you will consider fashioning this into an OP, as what you say and predict coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #86
Joseph Schumpeter said it better Joe Bacon Apr 2012 #121
Yep. And very few "treats" at that. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #3
Tens of ProSense Apr 2012 #4
Millions more thrown into poverty each year MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #6
Action, ProSense Apr 2012 #10
Has the President backed Harkin's bill? MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #12
Does ProSense Apr 2012 #13
Until the Democratic Party leadership embraces real change MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #16
Well, ProSense Apr 2012 #31
I campaigned for, donated to, and voted for Change MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #33
Doesn't matter ProSense Apr 2012 #36
Rising poverty, homelessness and hunger are petty? MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #39
No ProSense Apr 2012 #46
"the Change agent called me 'fucking retarded'" was shorthand MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #50
I don't know ProSense Apr 2012 #56
We have rising poverty, homelessness and hunger MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #58
I recommend you stop giving us the blue links from hell nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #91
"Hey at least the Cartels are not shooting the place up?" socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #93
Actually to be fair nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #100
+1 bvar22 Apr 2012 #105
Not just no, but ProSense Apr 2012 #111
post as many links as you want nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #124
Oh, and ProSense Apr 2012 #114
Not one of those proposals.. sendero Apr 2012 #75
Thanks, ProSense. You rock. SunSeeker Apr 2012 #66
excellent info SwampG8r Apr 2012 #68
I am one of the ones who have been poor for decades and what I am afraid of is that we will be jwirr Apr 2012 #45
Yes, ProSense Apr 2012 #77
I agree that 2016 will be too late for many of us. The number of persons relying on the safety net jwirr Apr 2012 #97
What can you do? We are the largest debtor nation on Earth banned from Kos Apr 2012 #5
FDR's America did it. MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #9
The 'debt' is a bugaboo bandied by right-winger and coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #11
Well said MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #15
Washington's $5 trillion interest bill dkf Apr 2012 #20
Not sure what your purpose is in posting this pablum from CNN. If long-term coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #27
Demand for U.S. Debt Is Not Limitless In 2011, the Fed purchased a stunning 61% of Treasury issuance dkf Apr 2012 #37
Treasury Yields Drop as Fed Buys Longer-Term Securities dkf Apr 2012 #30
A couple of things to keep in mind: PSPS Apr 2012 #14
Debt has nothing to do with it. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #67
FDR's era went from 32% taxes on the top tier nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #92
And if we doubled the taxes on the top 20%........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #94
You're right Manny. obxhead Apr 2012 #7
I agree. Times aren't going to get better for most people. closeupready Apr 2012 #8
Excatly white_wolf Apr 2012 #18
"America has changed." You're so right, Manny. nt gateley Apr 2012 #17
This is the fourth year of a recession. Swede Apr 2012 #19
Fourth year - with nothing changing as far as the eye can see. MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #22
Your a glass half empty kind of guy,Manny. Swede Apr 2012 #24
I disagree. MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #26
I'm a glass half full kinda guy. Swede Apr 2012 #48
But what do you see, specifically, MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #51
why is 3.1 million new jobs not a positive thing? hfojvt Apr 2012 #69
Less than breakeven, after population gain MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #78
While job growth is possitive nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #102
I have a service job now hfojvt Apr 2012 #110
16 million children go to bed hungry at some point during each week. But coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #28
Sadly, the good years of America, post WWII, might have been an RKP5637 Apr 2012 #21
At the end of WW II, the US had half the industrial capacity in the world, and all gold in Ft Knox FarCenter Apr 2012 #23
I see you live in reality. mmonk Apr 2012 #25
At the risk of sounding like an Obama apologist, Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #29
I believed Obama called for 2 jobs bills - and one did pass MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #32
Per usual I like to remind folks of history nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #35
Even in 1929, America was four years from change MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #38
Really? ProSense Apr 2012 #40
The same dynamic that we had in 2008. MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #43
Again ProSense Apr 2012 #54
I will work for change - but only with people who also want it MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #57
Please do ProSense Apr 2012 #59
Or 2012, remember the changes came due to pressure form the streets nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #41
Nadin, thank you MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #49
That is why the one percent woo me with science Apr 2012 #81
Trust me city council IS a snoozer nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #87
Dramatic changes in society seem to occur abelenkpe Apr 2012 #122
In all fairness... white_wolf Apr 2012 #126
Manny, are you familiar with the recently released book "Why Nations Fail" by bullwinkle428 Apr 2012 #42
I will load the first chapter into my Kindle MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #44
You didn't have to pawn your Kindle for dog food!?! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #53
Actually, the Goldsteins are doing reasonably OK MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #60
Well, we're trying to get more support for the General Strike on Tuesday, May 1. Zorra Apr 2012 #47
I have to check that out MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #61
Look here. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #63
I want to set up a business and my mind has been working over time Cleita Apr 2012 #55
Join Occupy. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #62
+1000 blackspade Apr 2012 #64
DU Rec. It's not just a bad economy. It's a purposeful restructuring of where the wealth goes, woo me with science Apr 2012 #65
^^^this KG Apr 2012 #73
Occupy. Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #70
Occupy and achieve what? estiparanoic Apr 2012 #72
Disperse? We haven't gone anywhere. Zorra Apr 2012 #88
Revolution is a noble goal which I fully support estiparanoic Apr 2012 #95
Do you believe Occupy needs to employ violent actions in order to achieve our goals? nt Zorra Apr 2012 #101
Seeing that I am not a member of Occupy I cannot nor will not speak for them estiparanoic May 2012 #132
Ture Occupy is still arownd estiparanoic May 2012 #134
Occupy has changed the converstion MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #98
You're right. I give up. WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #104
I know I am right that is why I posted it. estiparanoic May 2012 #133
Occupy is fluid, when 'dispersed' in one place, it finds another level to operate. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #107
+1 woo me with science Apr 2012 #115
There are no easy answers but... kentuck Apr 2012 #74
Too many people cliff48 Apr 2012 #128
Please ProSense Apr 2012 #76
A return to the politics of dead center, Throckmorton Apr 2012 #79
Yes we are. It's very frustrating that we elect Autumn Apr 2012 #83
That's ProSense Apr 2012 #84
Of course we don't vote for every Senator Autumn Apr 2012 #85
And ProSense Apr 2012 #89
Thanks for sharing your opinion Autumn Apr 2012 #90
why don't they just borrow 20 grand from their parents? arely staircase Apr 2012 #96
K&R. Want to watch this one. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #99
Just tonight? WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #103
You can know things intellectually, bvar22 Apr 2012 #106
That's it. That's exactly it. MannyGoldstein Apr 2012 #108
There is some hope Manny. bvar22 Apr 2012 #109
This is post-Obama first term? Zax2me Apr 2012 #112
I realized over 30 years ago that America's 99% were fucked for years to come NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #113
You just learned this? rrHeretic Apr 2012 #117
Many 99-ers have (and continue) to f*ck themselves. radhika Apr 2012 #119
Everyone is Screwed, except for those who Enjoy our Present Economic Climate fascisthunter Apr 2012 #120
Conditions will dictate - TBF Apr 2012 #123
Nothing is over until WE decide it is.... DAngelo136 Apr 2012 #125
Heck. On TV tonight the Government was defending torture. For the Homeland you know> n/t Bonhomme Richard Apr 2012 #127
There is a massive hole in the safety net DearAbby Apr 2012 #130
Just think about it....the 99% work their whole lives, many of them, just glinda Apr 2012 #131
Too many DUMB voters is the problem! dmosh42 May 2012 #135
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