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Major Hogwash

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90. Well, you'll never be a good Mormon with that attitude.

Reply to LynneSin (Reply #88)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 05:37 PM

Apr 2012

Even after they baptize you after you die!

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Why would a straight person chose to be anything other than straight? [View all] Quixote1818 Apr 2012 OP

Which reminds me of this video by Thom Hartmann Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #1

I don't think anyone chooses their orientation at all. MineralMan Apr 2012 #2

I agree, I just enjoyed pointing out to this person that perhaps they are gay/bi and haven't come Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #5

To brand those that question whether Gay is inborn or not, may make you FEEL good, but is counterpro WingDinger Apr 2012 #24

I disagree 100%. Not branding them anything. Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #35

WE are ALL bisexual, to some extent. WingDinger Apr 2012 #38

How do you know? Have you been inside everyones body? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #39

By making Bisexuality some kind of aberration, and solidly restraining yourself to one or the WingDinger Apr 2012 #41

Who is making bisexuality an aberration? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #46

The drive to make gay inborn, has made many WingDinger Apr 2012 #48

I don't care if someone is 100% gay or 1% gay or completely 100% straight Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #50

THAT, is the proper way to fight for LGBT rights. WingDinger Apr 2012 #52

When did you write the playbook? TriMera Apr 2012 #54

I fought the continuum concept when young, as I too was homophobic. WingDinger Apr 2012 #55

You can still have the continuum concept and accept that we don't choose how we are. CJCRANE Apr 2012 #60

I would buy that as a working theory. WingDinger Apr 2012 #62

Exactly. There's no choosing one's orientation. It just is. MineralMan Apr 2012 #65

This post makes no sense. TriMera Apr 2012 #53

The "ALL sexual identity is 100% inborn" argument is TOOOO close to so-called "Natural Law" patrice Apr 2012 #78

Bullseye yesphan Apr 2012 #3

Haven't you heard? Gay sex is so good that it'll make you.... Scuba Apr 2012 #4

And there's all those cool parades. Iggo Apr 2012 #49

Funny how your logic never gets into the discussion. Old and In the Way Apr 2012 #6

That's the way I've always thought about the issue. hifiguy Apr 2012 #92

As a straight woman, I would love the ability to choose lapislzi Apr 2012 #7

So you can't do something you admit you may want to do? Puzzledtraveller Apr 2012 #27

1. Kinda sorta. 2. I totally agree. lapislzi Apr 2012 #47

omg this is pure gold SwampG8r Apr 2012 #8

I agree! It just came to me this am because it occurred to me that I have zero attraction to other Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #18

On the flip side loyalsister Apr 2012 #9

Plus, if you date someone with the same body type and size, you double your wardrobe. Arkana Apr 2012 #33

That's so true. nt shcrane71 Apr 2012 #43

We have a choice to treat those who love us with dignity, compassion, honesty and loyalty - hedgehog Apr 2012 #10

I don't know; I was born LGBT. Zorra Apr 2012 #11

These people who say there is a choice must have had to make a choice. Downwinder Apr 2012 #12

It is an organic CHOICE, made about Two years of age. WingDinger Apr 2012 #13

WTF is an "organic choice"? TriMera Apr 2012 #20

An organic choice is, that you didnt get a worksheet, or multiple choice test. WingDinger Apr 2012 #22

Why do you feel the need to complicate things? TriMera Apr 2012 #26

Why? Do we need to end fodder to freaks like Bachmann and her homophobe husband? WingDinger Apr 2012 #29

Oh, I do face homophobia directly. Most every day. TriMera Apr 2012 #36

much like being left or right handed LanternWaste Apr 2012 #56

I am ambidextrous, by practice, not heredity. There are likely related changes to my brain. WingDinger Apr 2012 #57

Did you choose to be tall or short? LanternWaste Apr 2012 #82

But it is genetic. Arkana Apr 2012 #31

"When did you choose to be straight?" CJCRANE Apr 2012 #14

Do you remember enough about being Two, to answer? WingDinger Apr 2012 #15

I'm not a philosopher or scientist CJCRANE Apr 2012 #16

You very well COULd have chosen then, and forgotten now. WingDinger Apr 2012 #17

If I'm not aware of it, then it's not a choice IMO. CJCRANE Apr 2012 #25

I think you're confusing forcing a thing, and merely observing the reality of a thing. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #58

Thank you. n/t TriMera Apr 2012 #59

You can almost see the "light bulb" go on over their heads when they are asked..... Fla Dem Apr 2012 #68

I tell anyone who says it's a choice leftynyc Apr 2012 #19

What is the purpose in "shutting them up"? WingDinger Apr 2012 #21

I think the poster means that they don't have an answer to that CJCRANE Apr 2012 #28

I still ask, other than the fear of freaks like Bachmann and her hubby, what is to be gained by SHUT WingDinger Apr 2012 #37

You are playing into the hands of Bachmann et al. CJCRANE Apr 2012 #40

Homophobia, and much of wingnuttery, should be portrayed like WingDinger Apr 2012 #45

Anyone who thinks it's a choice leftynyc Apr 2012 #61

Gotta leave a little room for experimenting libodem Apr 2012 #23

If it was a choice, no one would choose it. Arkana Apr 2012 #30

If sucking toes was a choice, would Dickwad Morris choose it? And have to TOE Hannity's line? WingDinger Apr 2012 #32

Bazinga. Arkana Apr 2012 #34

sexual orientation isn't a choice johnnypneumatic Apr 2012 #42

It's about biology. Individual biologies vary. About that variation: One of the major tools patrice Apr 2012 #44

Some who are bisexual choose to repress their homosexual desires closeupready Apr 2012 #51

Yes! And BECAUSE that is possible, so is the converse. SOME, i.e. not all, who are bisexual patrice Apr 2012 #63

Yes, I agree with that. I do indeed think some bisexuals closeupready Apr 2012 #67

What you are blaming on caucasians, is in large part, the result of choosing a horse in the race. WingDinger Apr 2012 #69

If I understand your point, I'm not sure I agree with it. closeupready Apr 2012 #74

That kind of static zero-sum thinking has cost us so profoundly EVER so much more than we will patrice Apr 2012 #71

Yup. Most people don't realize it, but closeupready Apr 2012 #76

What you say is the sense in which the statement "Freedom isn't free" IS true. It takes utter patrice Apr 2012 #83

I can tell you get it. Seriously. You've thought about this a lot. closeupready Apr 2012 #85

I used to teach high-school seniors. Saw a lot. I HAD to understand or else! patrice Apr 2012 #86

the real question is: provis99 Apr 2012 #64

So true. AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #66

Unlike LGBT, there is less utility in deeming you as choosing or inheriting. WingDinger Apr 2012 #70

Good point there. nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #73

Absolutely. Average Jane here ... cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #75

I would ask this back - 'Why would anyone choose to be a dumbass douchebag?' LynneSin Apr 2012 #72

LMAO!!! Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #80

It is possible to wonder that about those who are trying to tell us that ALL sexual identity is 100% patrice Apr 2012 #87

To be honest, I don't think anyone is truly 100% straight or gay LynneSin Apr 2012 #88

He, he . . . I kind of thought that post didn't seem all that characteristic of you ... patrice Apr 2012 #89

Well, you'll never be a good Mormon with that attitude. Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #90

BTW, neither do I. And some of us can be psychologically vulnerable to members of the same sex patrice Apr 2012 #94

Because Hertz gives gay people the best rate on their car rentals? Ian David Apr 2012 #77

Even bisexuality is not a choice, though it is commonly and mistakenly thought to be. Behind the Aegis Apr 2012 #79

Nature/biology does not exist/develop in a vacuum. The context in which it evolves is physical & patrice Apr 2012 #84

I must say: I am soooooo happy! to see an intelligent civil debate about this here on DU now. patrice Apr 2012 #81

Good reply! Took me a minute to think about it. Rex Apr 2012 #91

"... only way ..."??? Or a person could just choose, more or less authentically, to not act on patrice Apr 2012 #93

The strange thing is, this either or gay or straight jazz WingDinger Apr 2012 #95

Who is we? And, do you have any links to back up TriMera Apr 2012 #96

Not the gay closet. the straight one. WingDinger Apr 2012 #97

The universe of persons, to which that theory "inborn gay" can be posed as an exclusion is a MIGHTY patrice Apr 2012 #99

Agree completely. It's a threat to self-identity & causes defensiveness on those grounds alone, patrice Apr 2012 #98