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Background on Zimmerman [View all] cbrer Apr 2012 OP
Alright atreides1 Apr 2012 #1
He's working on it, I'm sure. Iggo Apr 2012 #37
Sadly, Martin wasn't a hardened street thug from a broken home so he doesn't fit the narrative Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #48
It's entirely possible that every word in that story is true tularetom Apr 2012 #2
+1 joeybee12 Apr 2012 #5
General climates of prolonged struggle and failure lead to what you refer to as his patrice Apr 2012 #11
and the Zimmerman defenders will point out that pokerfan Apr 2012 #17
I've been saying the same thing from the start: Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #49
how was Zimmerman acting in defiance helloyall Apr 2012 #130
LOL! Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #134
does 911 have legal authority? yes or no? helloyall Apr 2012 #135
911: "911, what's your emergency?" Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #138
LEGAL authority. helloyall Apr 2012 #144
Dude...quit digging. cyberswede Apr 2012 #147
dude, chill out I'm out to prove my point helloyall Apr 2012 #151
...and what difference does that really make, at the end of the day? cyberswede Apr 2012 #153
*snort* cyberswede Apr 2012 #145
LOL! Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #158
That's a bingo. geardaddy Apr 2012 #150
Frankly that's about what I expected. denverbill Apr 2012 #3
And if it weren't for his justified expectation that the cops would not arrive in time to be patrice Apr 2012 #6
Effective against what? ronnie624 Apr 2012 #12
Effective against the REAL problems in the area, so that Z would not have felt it necessary to patrice Apr 2012 #13
maybe he can claim temporary insanity noiretextatique Apr 2012 #41
I don't like that. Because, to me, he has rather obvious culpability here, just (possibly) not the patrice Apr 2012 #53
yes, his culpability is pretty obvious noiretextatique Apr 2012 #55
It's hard to speculate about the weight of the racial factors. patrice Apr 2012 #57
not really noiretextatique Apr 2012 #79
not not really. We still do not know the weight of Black/hoodie relative to Z's other motives. patrice Apr 2012 #101
i am sure he saw himself as some sort of avenger or hero noiretextatique Apr 2012 #105
Also, "effective", had they come on the scene BEFORE the murder, in determining that nothing patrice Apr 2012 #84
in time...for what? Trayvon was walking home from the store noiretextatique Apr 2012 #28
You obviously dont get it. Black males are automatically Solomon Apr 2012 #40
yes...i get it, hence my thread about blaming the victim noiretextatique Apr 2012 #44
In my reference to how maleable perception is, I was trying to pose a different patrice Apr 2012 #47
If Martin was white I doubt Zimmerman would have reacted the same way.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #9
it seems we need to state the obvious over and over and over and over and over noiretextatique Apr 2012 #27
AND sometimes they are NOT what they appear to be - AND - the difference between those 2 states IS patrice Apr 2012 #64
wtf are you talking about? really. noiretextatique Apr 2012 #73
**IF** all racially motivated murders occur between ethnicities, does that NECESSARILY mean that all patrice Apr 2012 #76
i am not sure why zimmerman killed him noiretextatique Apr 2012 #106
Agreed. patrice Apr 2012 #108
And THAT'S what George Zimmerman did wrong, which act was hideously exacerbated by a gun. patrice Apr 2012 #74
**IF** all ___________ are _ _ _ _ _ _ , does that NECESSARILY mean that all _ _ _ _ _ _ are patrice Apr 2012 #70
no and no noiretextatique Apr 2012 #72
Just think if Zimmerman had listened to what 911 dispatcher told him LynneSin Apr 2012 #71
Oh god. patrice Apr 2012 #4
Yes this article of bullshit is making the rounds Rex Apr 2012 #7
Actually background matters nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #15
So does accuracy in reporting. Rex Apr 2012 #18
I don't think anyone Aerows Apr 2012 #117
i certainly hope he goes to prison noiretextatique Apr 2012 #30
That is the bottom line...he shot and killed an unarmed teenager Rex Apr 2012 #68
because you were there.. helloyall Apr 2012 #133
I am speculating that Zimmerman killed Martin!?!? REALLY??? Rex Apr 2012 #140
what facts do you have to support your statement? helloyall Apr 2012 #146
Er, how about Zimmerman admitted to killing Trayvon Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #149
do you have facts that Martin didn't start it? helloyall Apr 2012 #155
Like you speculating that Zimmerman may not have killed Trayvon? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #157
that was for argument sake helloyall Apr 2012 #160
Then why are you all up in here amping about speculation Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #161
"You are speculating that Zimmerman killed him..." We are? ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #154
Please enlighten all of us. Spoonman Apr 2012 #63
Why would I waste the time with the likes of you? Rex Apr 2012 #67
"The likes of me"? Spoonman Apr 2012 #83
No Everyone Is Not Thinking That HangOnKids Apr 2012 #86
I notice you fail as well Spoonman Apr 2012 #87
You Are An Arrogant Boob HangOnKids Apr 2012 #90
The Fail is strong in this one. Rex Apr 2012 #93
So what really happened is someone proved you wrong Rex Apr 2012 #92
You are right, how silly of me. Rex Apr 2012 #89
Oz talks only to pretty girls in gingham and their dog Toto HangOnKids Apr 2012 #96
Small fries! Yes, I said it! Rex Apr 2012 #98
"why would I waste time on someone that already made up their mind" Spoonman Apr 2012 #125
Yes you are a lemming now go bother someone else Rex Apr 2012 #142
Here's one pure bullshit entry Oilwellian Apr 2012 #104
+1 geardaddy Apr 2012 #156
Background on the case: Innocent teen walking home from store at night rustydog Apr 2012 #8
Is there concrete evidence he continued to follow him? joeglow3 Apr 2012 #26
zimmerman: proven liar noiretextatique Apr 2012 #32
You should contact the prosecutor Spoonman Apr 2012 #66
DUH...it's on the 911 tape, which i am sure the prosecutor has noiretextatique Apr 2012 #75
Or, when on the stand Spoonman Apr 2012 #78
not surprising that apologists even excuse perjury noiretextatique Apr 2012 #81
Not a rocket scientist or lawyer either........ Spoonman Apr 2012 #85
Isn't it so pathetic? Rex Apr 2012 #94
they are coming up with ridiculous excuses noiretextatique Apr 2012 #103
I agree...last time I checked we are all equal under the law. Rex Apr 2012 #107
but enough of a look to know NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #102
Funny you mention that, because that's exactly what Zimmerman did: Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #65
I will give Zimmerman the right to call 911 Rex Apr 2012 #100
Agreed. Whether it was Racism or not is a red-herring, since it probably can't be established. patrice Apr 2012 #116
None of this changes a thing. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #10
So if you are told a white sexual predator has been attacking kids in your neighborhood dkf Apr 2012 #14
If it's a white man just innocently walking down the street, then yeah. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #16
LOL! SERIES!?!?! Rex Apr 2012 #19
no...the problem is not with the phone call noiretextatique Apr 2012 #24
Yes uponit7771 Apr 2012 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Apr 2012 #38
You're a real piece of work. WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #52
Apparently, the author of the OP left you to defned their OP. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #88
Should Zimmerman have been allowed to chase said white man obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #121
This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Apr 2012 #122
I didn't know there were black people commiting heinous crimes in Zimmerman's neighborhood Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #124
+1 Rex Apr 2012 #139
Um, no. The definition applies to law enforcement, not individuals. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #128
Amongst other things, the human brain is a hypothesis generator, a theory creator, a pattern tester. patrice Apr 2012 #22
Trayvon was black, apparently two black males were breaking in to homes in the area noiretextatique Apr 2012 #29
I still don't believe that "black men were breaking into homes" fairytale Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #45
not sure i believe it either...the article repeats that claim noiretextatique Apr 2012 #46
The irony of it all is Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #51
it is bullshit noiretextatique Apr 2012 #54
Racial profiling refers to a police activity marshall Apr 2012 #115
only in his mind noiretextatique Apr 2012 #127
Didn't entitle Zimmerman to become judge, jury and executioner Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #20
Holy Crap! A black kids stole Zimmerman's bike and someones lap top got stolen! Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #21
This could be an important part of Zimmermans defense. -..__... Apr 2012 #23
zimmerman, and zimmerman alone is responsible for Martin's death noiretextatique Apr 2012 #25
What you or anyone else believes is irrelevant. -..__... Apr 2012 #31
zimmerman apologists will no doubt be in the jury pool noiretextatique Apr 2012 #33
By that logic... -..__... Apr 2012 #35
that is a possibility noiretextatique Apr 2012 #36
It will/would be difficult... -..__... Apr 2012 #39
that's true too... noiretextatique Apr 2012 #42
Would you (want to be on that jury)? -..__... Apr 2012 #59
It Happens All The Time Potential Juries Watch The News HangOnKids Apr 2012 #43
You have something to say? -..__... Apr 2012 #58
How about this HangOnKids Apr 2012 #61
Yawnnnn... -..__... Apr 2012 #62
Good You Need A Resty Poo Babe HangOnKids Apr 2012 #80
By their own words, they admit to their opinion being worthless. Rex Apr 2012 #97
So by your own admission, what you believe is irrelevant? Rex Apr 2012 #95
Did I ever post that it wasn't? -..__... Apr 2012 #118
If it is evil for George Zimmerman to kill Trayvon Martin for what Trayvon could but NOT necessarily patrice Apr 2012 #50
zimmerman is going to be on trial for second-degree murder noiretextatique Apr 2012 #56
We agree that it is a crime. We may not agree about exactly which crime it is - AND - what patrice Apr 2012 #60
as far as i know, only the new black panther party has threatened zimmerman's life noiretextatique Apr 2012 #77
If people place the desire to execute the guy ahead of the desire for the truth, that's the SAME patrice Apr 2012 #82
where are you getting this "execute" thing? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #111
execute or otherwise punish, just guessing here about the relevance of capital punishment in FL. As patrice Apr 2012 #113
i am convinced that he is a wannabe cop who racially profiled noiretextatique Apr 2012 #114
911 told Zimmerman to BACK AWAY LynneSin Apr 2012 #69
The moment Zimmerman started to chase Martin Rex Apr 2012 #99
Exactly and it's going to be that call to 911 that will show Zimmerman as guilty LynneSin Apr 2012 #110
Yeah the slime will find some way to get the least sentence. Rex Apr 2012 #112
Do you mind if I forward your post to the parties involved? -..__... Apr 2012 #119
were you convinced that OJ was guilty? did that mean you didn't want him to have a trial? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #126
Don't cry to me about not understanding what happened. Rex Apr 2012 #141
911 has NO legal authority! helloyall Apr 2012 #131
He should have done as the 911 dispatchers advised, legal authority or not cyberswede Apr 2012 #132
so you agree dispatch has no legal authority? helloyall Apr 2012 #136
Clearly, in this case, they did. cyberswede Apr 2012 #137
this makes no sense! helloyall Apr 2012 #148
My reply was to this: cyberswede Apr 2012 #152
Well that certainly means he had a right to shoot & kill any unfamiliar black men he saw Hugabear Apr 2012 #91
I am trying to figure out why this is relevant etherealtruth Apr 2012 #109
Zimmerman obviously had a gripe with black men in their late teens. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #120
Apologist. Dogtown Apr 2012 #123
He's still killed Trayvon Martin - who committed no crime - because he was black jpak Apr 2012 #129
Exactly the Fail in this thread by Zimm apologists is Rex Apr 2012 #143
Okay so Zimmerman shot Trayvon because another supposed Black kid stole his bike. vaberella Apr 2012 #159
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