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kwassa

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90. Thanks for this explanation

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:22 AM

Apr 2012

I've seen Latin and South Americans who have disliked each other based on country of origin. I've also heard of much discrimination against those of perceived indigenous heritage in different countries. A friend was appalled on a visit to Ecuador by racist statements by his relatives there against indigenous peoples. I've met very indigenous-looking immigrants here who immediately denied having any such heritage at all.

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George Zimmerman is part black. [View all] dkf Apr 2012 OP

Oh my... marshall Apr 2012 #1

That doesn't mean he still can't be racist or prejudice. I know a Cuban woman who despises Justice wanted Apr 2012 #2

Dude go one step further...I know Black Cubans who despise White Cubans vaberella Apr 2012 #8

White Cubans despise Black Cubans as well... CherokeeDem Apr 2012 #64

I had heard anecdotally that one of the advances in Castro's Cuba was coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #89

They say that many of the American Cubans are white looking. craigmatic Apr 2012 #101

Not really Taverner Apr 2012 #134

I believe I stated "vice versa." vaberella Apr 2012 #161

And from living in S Texas Gman Apr 2012 #14

I'm beginning to see that. Justice wanted Apr 2012 #25

Thank you! bearded clam Apr 2012 #166

Isn't it always the whites who say that the blacks are far more racist than any white? zbdent Apr 2012 #56

...and Hitler was part Jewish. eShirl Apr 2012 #3

Thank You. Or like Trujillo of Dominican Republic had a Haitian grandmother... vaberella Apr 2012 #7

And Charles Manson thought he might have a black ancestor treestar Apr 2012 #81

my first thought when I read the OP- Bluerthanblue Apr 2012 #91

I don't care if has has a heritage of being LeftofObama Apr 2012 #4

Right! Cosmocat Apr 2012 #11

The "child" thing is a bit disingenuous pipoman Apr 2012 #24

Your point being? marmar Apr 2012 #35

Referring to a 17 yo as a child is disingenuous.. pipoman Apr 2012 #40

No. It's not disingenious lunatica Apr 2012 #62

We are talking about how he LOOKED that evening. 6'3"? bearded clam Apr 2012 #167

No the hell it's not. Because the law still sees him as a minor. vaberella Apr 2012 #65

A 17 year old is still a minor treestar Apr 2012 #82

"Teenager" would be more accurate, but "child" generates more sympathy. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #138

A 17-year-old is a child obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #37

A child is generally considered someone who pipoman Apr 2012 #42

Didactic silliness.......Was he out of high school? Was he living independently of his parents? marmar Apr 2012 #46

None of those things define a "child" pipoman Apr 2012 #48

Oh. So pubic hair does. Happyhippychick Apr 2012 #55

Then there are a lot of toddlers committing serious crimes..17 falls in the pipoman Apr 2012 #58

You have just proven my point. 17 year olds are the demographic most likely to commit violent crime Happyhippychick Apr 2012 #60

well, then maybe Georgie-poo should have considered how his victim would be portrayed uncle ray Apr 2012 #88

So when a 9 year old gets her period she's no longer a child. vaberella Apr 2012 #66

clearly that IS what the poster is saying etherealtruth Apr 2012 #157

and none of your contortions define him as anything other CatWoman Apr 2012 #114

I'm getting the feeling that DevonRex Apr 2012 #121

A 17-year-old is a child obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #74

your pointless digression is distracting from the pointless purpose of the OP CreekDog Apr 2012 #129

Young man just doesn't hold the same sympathy. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #145

Ask Trayvon Martin's mother about that. Vanje Apr 2012 #85

The "black" thing is a bit disingenuous Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #95

In case you didn't know, people don't like to use the word "boy" DevonRex Apr 2012 #117

17 is still a child to me. MrScorpio Apr 2012 #137

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #5

And that means what? Many White Americans today have Black roots. vaberella Apr 2012 #6

I was about to say the same CatWoman Apr 2012 #113

Which part? LuvNewcastle Apr 2012 #9

You are always true to form, dkf Nostradammit Apr 2012 #10

I aim to inform... dkf Apr 2012 #12

But what does this information mean? Tell us? At least what does it mean to you?! n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #13

If you read the entire piece I think you will see a picture with a little more dkf Apr 2012 #19

No it is not nuanced and who besides you and his defense team thinks this is important information? LaurenG Apr 2012 #63

Alas the history of 911 calls, even before this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #107

Yes it does. DevonRex Apr 2012 #119

Oh fine, reading legalese for a proposition nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #124

Ugh. DevonRex Apr 2012 #127

Well Zimmerman also has white roots lunatica Apr 2012 #26

eally depends on if the information is relevant, or irrelevant and meant... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #57

"allow us the precise relevance of the information as it relates to the story as whole" Chan790 Apr 2012 #79

What difference does it make? LaurenG Apr 2012 #61

Signal vs. Noise. Chan790 Apr 2012 #73

Ha! LaurenG Apr 2012 #83

Well said... Spazito Apr 2012 #103

Trayvon WAS part white. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #15

I sincerely doubt the OP will offer anything. Most of his/her posts are in defense of Zimmerman. vaberella Apr 2012 #16

dkf = OMC Dogtown Apr 2012 #20

Sorry but dfk won't have a thing to say to you about that. Rex Apr 2012 #106

This changes everything Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #17

"black" is as much a socio-political term Anarcho-Socialist Apr 2012 #18

No he was probably perceived as Hispanic. dkf Apr 2012 #22

With that last name nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #108

HOLD ON!!! White, now has a look? Hahahaha...Bless. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #162

Totally not worth responding to LaurenG Apr 2012 #21

This page left intentionally blank LOL cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #102

Heh, I changed my mind further down or up.. LaurenG Apr 2012 #120

And in your opinion that makes him non racist? lunatica Apr 2012 #23

Personally, I never saw it as a racial Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #27

The SYG law is fine. LAGC Apr 2012 #34

I agree Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #47

I agree that SYG is stupid, but...... marmar Apr 2012 #39

There was certainly, at the very least, Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #93

I'm not sure what the motivation pipoman Apr 2012 #28

The Black Panthers haven't been involved in this obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #41

Really? They didn't offer a "dead or alive" bounty on Zimmerman? pipoman Apr 2012 #44

No. That was a group called "The New Black Panthers" that have nothing to do with the Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #49

mea culpa pipoman Apr 2012 #50

It's about the institutionalized racism of profiling, ronnie624 Apr 2012 #92

Anyone who refers to the New Black Panthers (all 5 of them) as anything even worth mentioning... CreekDog Apr 2012 #131

My family are minorites TZ Apr 2012 #29

Lol - so now it's St George the biracial altar boy... ananda Apr 2012 #30

My dog is part Alaskan Malamute but he doesn't like Sarah Palin. undeterred Apr 2012 #31

ROFL...you made me piss on myself! Fuck! n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #68

So Al Sharpton DID protest black on black crime?! Go figure... ejbr Apr 2012 #32

Sorry, but who the hell cares and why is that relevant? a la izquierda Apr 2012 #33

Thanks for this explanation kwassa Apr 2012 #90

No worries. a la izquierda Apr 2012 #118

So Jorge is a white, black, hispanic, Peruvian jew Baclava Apr 2012 #36

What an OP to wake up to obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #38

There are no words...n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #69

Seriously obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #76

And...? Iggo Apr 2012 #43

The 'racism' element is institutional. TahitiNut Apr 2012 #45

This has reached absurdities totally undreamed of. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #51

The least relevant fact yet found! GOTV Apr 2012 #52

Animal control told Zim to buy a gun... Iggo Apr 2012 #59

This bullshit hearkens back to the "One Drop" rule... stlsaxman Apr 2012 #53

I think having a father who was a magistrate had something to do with him getting away with murder. Crowman1979 Apr 2012 #54

Like the OP, that is another irrelevant fact ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #67

so? spanone Apr 2012 #70

So? a young man is still dead. WI_DEM Apr 2012 #71

He also suffers from a dangerous hero complex. Go figure. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #72

I Don't Think Zimmerman Was Any More Or Less Racist Than Your Average American DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #75

So is Herman Cain snooper2 Apr 2012 #77

LOL! n/t ProSense Apr 2012 #98

I see... Just for clarity, what's your point? BklnDem75 Apr 2012 #78

Not enough for racists to see him as black when he's walking down the street treestar Apr 2012 #80

Holy shit!!!! Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #84

STFW? He still followed an unarmed teen, confronted and killed him rustydog Apr 2012 #86

So? Your point is? Is this sh!t stirring in the "one drop" assumption? myrna minx Apr 2012 #87

Great-grandfather? What a stretch. n/t Gormy Cuss Apr 2012 #94

That makes me part white. ProSense Apr 2012 #97

And it makes me racially mixed Gormy Cuss Apr 2012 #100

my great grandmother wasn't white, so I guess I'm not white either CreekDog Apr 2012 #135

Yet another stupid douchebag race baiting thread - Drudge, Beck, Hannity and Rush shit stirring jpak Apr 2012 #96

We're all part black. Life started in Africa. It doesn't excuse what he did. craigmatic Apr 2012 #99

Thread winner nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #110

ding ding ding ding ding jpak Apr 2012 #111

Thank you. DevonRex Apr 2012 #123

And your point is? Arkana Apr 2012 #104

And how does that change the fact that he murdered a kid in cold blood? Rex Apr 2012 #105

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #125

so it's really black on black crime. I get it. librechik Apr 2012 #115

And? nt MrScorpio Apr 2012 #116

Everyone is free to do their own analysis on what it means to them. dkf Apr 2012 #130

Here's my answer then MrScorpio Apr 2012 #143

Your title was your own creation based on a form of the "one drop rule" CreekDog Apr 2012 #148

Wow, now that is sad. Rex Apr 2012 #163

phew, that gets the white race off the hook! Enrique Apr 2012 #122

I didn't know the "white race" was on the hook 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #133

Dude, the "white race" is always on the hook. MrScorpio Apr 2012 #136

According to the US Census bi-raclal people have the choice as to declare how snagglepuss Apr 2012 #126

have you ever commented on "black on black" crime? CreekDog Apr 2012 #128

thanks for stepping us through each rationalization you internalize CreekDog Apr 2012 #132

HAHAHA... oh my fascisthunter Apr 2012 #139

Pretty insulting OP. stevenleser Apr 2012 #140

and Strom Thurmond had a black daughter he took care of financially JI7 Apr 2012 #141

And I hear his "Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather" thinks you're a racist bigotted asshat troll RetroLounge Apr 2012 #142

ROFL Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #149

So what?? Practically EVERY white person in America has black ancesters Raine Apr 2012 #144

The controversy even on this left-of-center forum is "Exhibit A" as to why the hate crime cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #146

This OP is part red herring Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #147

Zimmerman is black! STOP EVERYTHING!!! A Simple Game Apr 2012 #150

I rarely miss unrec. For this I do. However, is interesting to see who rec'd this, wonder why? uppityperson Apr 2012 #151

OOh some of those names I recognize. vaberella Apr 2012 #160

He is bicultured. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #152

why does his race matter? tnvoter Apr 2012 #153

It matters to white supremacists, who are pushing this pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #158

and trayvon martin is fully dead arely staircase Apr 2012 #154

Maybe someone should have told him this varelse Apr 2012 #155

DKF is part asshole as we all are Ichingcarpenter Apr 2012 #156

Sometimes, when we are forming and Rex Apr 2012 #164

I'm curious to your angle JonLP24 Apr 2012 #159

Trying to stir up a shitstorm F5. Rex Apr 2012 #165