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19. If you read the entire piece I think you will see a picture with a little more

Reply to vaberella (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:41 AM

Apr 2012

Nuance than charges that it was a racially based hate crime.

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George Zimmerman is part black. [View all] dkf Apr 2012 OP

Oh my... marshall Apr 2012 #1

That doesn't mean he still can't be racist or prejudice. I know a Cuban woman who despises Justice wanted Apr 2012 #2

Dude go one step further...I know Black Cubans who despise White Cubans vaberella Apr 2012 #8

White Cubans despise Black Cubans as well... CherokeeDem Apr 2012 #64

I had heard anecdotally that one of the advances in Castro's Cuba was coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #89

They say that many of the American Cubans are white looking. craigmatic Apr 2012 #101

Not really Taverner Apr 2012 #134

I believe I stated "vice versa." vaberella Apr 2012 #161

And from living in S Texas Gman Apr 2012 #14

I'm beginning to see that. Justice wanted Apr 2012 #25

Thank you! bearded clam Apr 2012 #166

Isn't it always the whites who say that the blacks are far more racist than any white? zbdent Apr 2012 #56

...and Hitler was part Jewish. eShirl Apr 2012 #3

Thank You. Or like Trujillo of Dominican Republic had a Haitian grandmother... vaberella Apr 2012 #7

And Charles Manson thought he might have a black ancestor treestar Apr 2012 #81

my first thought when I read the OP- Bluerthanblue Apr 2012 #91

I don't care if has has a heritage of being LeftofObama Apr 2012 #4

Right! Cosmocat Apr 2012 #11

The "child" thing is a bit disingenuous pipoman Apr 2012 #24

Your point being? marmar Apr 2012 #35

Referring to a 17 yo as a child is disingenuous.. pipoman Apr 2012 #40

No. It's not disingenious lunatica Apr 2012 #62

We are talking about how he LOOKED that evening. 6'3"? bearded clam Apr 2012 #167

No the hell it's not. Because the law still sees him as a minor. vaberella Apr 2012 #65

A 17 year old is still a minor treestar Apr 2012 #82

"Teenager" would be more accurate, but "child" generates more sympathy. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #138

A 17-year-old is a child obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #37

A child is generally considered someone who pipoman Apr 2012 #42

Didactic silliness.......Was he out of high school? Was he living independently of his parents? marmar Apr 2012 #46

None of those things define a "child" pipoman Apr 2012 #48

Oh. So pubic hair does. Happyhippychick Apr 2012 #55

Then there are a lot of toddlers committing serious crimes..17 falls in the pipoman Apr 2012 #58

You have just proven my point. 17 year olds are the demographic most likely to commit violent crime Happyhippychick Apr 2012 #60

well, then maybe Georgie-poo should have considered how his victim would be portrayed uncle ray Apr 2012 #88

So when a 9 year old gets her period she's no longer a child. vaberella Apr 2012 #66

clearly that IS what the poster is saying etherealtruth Apr 2012 #157

and none of your contortions define him as anything other CatWoman Apr 2012 #114

I'm getting the feeling that DevonRex Apr 2012 #121

A 17-year-old is a child obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #74

your pointless digression is distracting from the pointless purpose of the OP CreekDog Apr 2012 #129

Young man just doesn't hold the same sympathy. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #145

Ask Trayvon Martin's mother about that. Vanje Apr 2012 #85

The "black" thing is a bit disingenuous Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #95

In case you didn't know, people don't like to use the word "boy" DevonRex Apr 2012 #117

17 is still a child to me. MrScorpio Apr 2012 #137

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #5

And that means what? Many White Americans today have Black roots. vaberella Apr 2012 #6

I was about to say the same CatWoman Apr 2012 #113

Which part? LuvNewcastle Apr 2012 #9

You are always true to form, dkf Nostradammit Apr 2012 #10

I aim to inform... dkf Apr 2012 #12

But what does this information mean? Tell us? At least what does it mean to you?! n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #13

If you read the entire piece I think you will see a picture with a little more dkf Apr 2012 #19

No it is not nuanced and who besides you and his defense team thinks this is important information? LaurenG Apr 2012 #63

Alas the history of 911 calls, even before this nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #107

Yes it does. DevonRex Apr 2012 #119

Oh fine, reading legalese for a proposition nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #124

Ugh. DevonRex Apr 2012 #127

Well Zimmerman also has white roots lunatica Apr 2012 #26

eally depends on if the information is relevant, or irrelevant and meant... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #57

"allow us the precise relevance of the information as it relates to the story as whole" Chan790 Apr 2012 #79

What difference does it make? LaurenG Apr 2012 #61

Signal vs. Noise. Chan790 Apr 2012 #73

Ha! LaurenG Apr 2012 #83

Well said... Spazito Apr 2012 #103

Trayvon WAS part white. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #15

I sincerely doubt the OP will offer anything. Most of his/her posts are in defense of Zimmerman. vaberella Apr 2012 #16

dkf = OMC Dogtown Apr 2012 #20

Sorry but dfk won't have a thing to say to you about that. Rex Apr 2012 #106

This changes everything Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #17

"black" is as much a socio-political term Anarcho-Socialist Apr 2012 #18

No he was probably perceived as Hispanic. dkf Apr 2012 #22

With that last name nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #108

HOLD ON!!! White, now has a look? Hahahaha...Bless. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #162

Totally not worth responding to LaurenG Apr 2012 #21

This page left intentionally blank LOL cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #102

Heh, I changed my mind further down or up.. LaurenG Apr 2012 #120

And in your opinion that makes him non racist? lunatica Apr 2012 #23

Personally, I never saw it as a racial Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #27

The SYG law is fine. LAGC Apr 2012 #34

I agree Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #47

I agree that SYG is stupid, but...... marmar Apr 2012 #39

There was certainly, at the very least, Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #93

I'm not sure what the motivation pipoman Apr 2012 #28

The Black Panthers haven't been involved in this obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #41

Really? They didn't offer a "dead or alive" bounty on Zimmerman? pipoman Apr 2012 #44

No. That was a group called "The New Black Panthers" that have nothing to do with the Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #49

mea culpa pipoman Apr 2012 #50

It's about the institutionalized racism of profiling, ronnie624 Apr 2012 #92

Anyone who refers to the New Black Panthers (all 5 of them) as anything even worth mentioning... CreekDog Apr 2012 #131

My family are minorites TZ Apr 2012 #29

Lol - so now it's St George the biracial altar boy... ananda Apr 2012 #30

My dog is part Alaskan Malamute but he doesn't like Sarah Palin. undeterred Apr 2012 #31

ROFL...you made me piss on myself! Fuck! n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #68

So Al Sharpton DID protest black on black crime?! Go figure... ejbr Apr 2012 #32

Sorry, but who the hell cares and why is that relevant? a la izquierda Apr 2012 #33

Thanks for this explanation kwassa Apr 2012 #90

No worries. a la izquierda Apr 2012 #118

So Jorge is a white, black, hispanic, Peruvian jew Baclava Apr 2012 #36

What an OP to wake up to obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #38

There are no words...n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #69

Seriously obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #76

And...? Iggo Apr 2012 #43

The 'racism' element is institutional. TahitiNut Apr 2012 #45

This has reached absurdities totally undreamed of. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #51

The least relevant fact yet found! GOTV Apr 2012 #52

Animal control told Zim to buy a gun... Iggo Apr 2012 #59

This bullshit hearkens back to the "One Drop" rule... stlsaxman Apr 2012 #53

I think having a father who was a magistrate had something to do with him getting away with murder. Crowman1979 Apr 2012 #54

Like the OP, that is another irrelevant fact ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #67

so? spanone Apr 2012 #70

So? a young man is still dead. WI_DEM Apr 2012 #71

He also suffers from a dangerous hero complex. Go figure. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #72

I Don't Think Zimmerman Was Any More Or Less Racist Than Your Average American DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #75

So is Herman Cain snooper2 Apr 2012 #77

LOL! n/t ProSense Apr 2012 #98

I see... Just for clarity, what's your point? BklnDem75 Apr 2012 #78

Not enough for racists to see him as black when he's walking down the street treestar Apr 2012 #80

Holy shit!!!! Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #84

STFW? He still followed an unarmed teen, confronted and killed him rustydog Apr 2012 #86

So? Your point is? Is this sh!t stirring in the "one drop" assumption? myrna minx Apr 2012 #87

Great-grandfather? What a stretch. n/t Gormy Cuss Apr 2012 #94

That makes me part white. ProSense Apr 2012 #97

And it makes me racially mixed Gormy Cuss Apr 2012 #100

my great grandmother wasn't white, so I guess I'm not white either CreekDog Apr 2012 #135

Yet another stupid douchebag race baiting thread - Drudge, Beck, Hannity and Rush shit stirring jpak Apr 2012 #96

We're all part black. Life started in Africa. It doesn't excuse what he did. craigmatic Apr 2012 #99

Thread winner nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #110

ding ding ding ding ding jpak Apr 2012 #111

Thank you. DevonRex Apr 2012 #123

And your point is? Arkana Apr 2012 #104

And how does that change the fact that he murdered a kid in cold blood? Rex Apr 2012 #105

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #125

so it's really black on black crime. I get it. librechik Apr 2012 #115

And? nt MrScorpio Apr 2012 #116

Everyone is free to do their own analysis on what it means to them. dkf Apr 2012 #130

Here's my answer then MrScorpio Apr 2012 #143

Your title was your own creation based on a form of the "one drop rule" CreekDog Apr 2012 #148

Wow, now that is sad. Rex Apr 2012 #163

phew, that gets the white race off the hook! Enrique Apr 2012 #122

I didn't know the "white race" was on the hook 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #133

Dude, the "white race" is always on the hook. MrScorpio Apr 2012 #136

According to the US Census bi-raclal people have the choice as to declare how snagglepuss Apr 2012 #126

have you ever commented on "black on black" crime? CreekDog Apr 2012 #128

thanks for stepping us through each rationalization you internalize CreekDog Apr 2012 #132

HAHAHA... oh my fascisthunter Apr 2012 #139

Pretty insulting OP. stevenleser Apr 2012 #140

and Strom Thurmond had a black daughter he took care of financially JI7 Apr 2012 #141

And I hear his "Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather" thinks you're a racist bigotted asshat troll RetroLounge Apr 2012 #142

ROFL Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #149

So what?? Practically EVERY white person in America has black ancesters Raine Apr 2012 #144

The controversy even on this left-of-center forum is "Exhibit A" as to why the hate crime cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #146

This OP is part red herring Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #147

Zimmerman is black! STOP EVERYTHING!!! A Simple Game Apr 2012 #150

I rarely miss unrec. For this I do. However, is interesting to see who rec'd this, wonder why? uppityperson Apr 2012 #151

OOh some of those names I recognize. vaberella Apr 2012 #160

He is bicultured. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #152

why does his race matter? tnvoter Apr 2012 #153

It matters to white supremacists, who are pushing this pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #158

and trayvon martin is fully dead arely staircase Apr 2012 #154

Maybe someone should have told him this varelse Apr 2012 #155

DKF is part asshole as we all are Ichingcarpenter Apr 2012 #156

Sometimes, when we are forming and Rex Apr 2012 #164

I'm curious to your angle JonLP24 Apr 2012 #159

Trying to stir up a shitstorm F5. Rex Apr 2012 #165