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In the discussion thread: George Zimmerman is part black. [View all]

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Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:39 AM

Anarcho-Socialist (9,450 posts)

18. "black" is as much a socio-political term

Was Zimmerman ever perceived as "black" in day-to-day life? I doubt it.

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167 replies	Author	Time	Post
George Zimmerman is part black. [View all]	dkf	Apr 2012	OP
Oh my...	marshall	Apr 2012	#1
That doesn't mean he still can't be racist or prejudice. I know a Cuban woman who despises	Justice wanted	Apr 2012	#2
Dude go one step further...I know Black Cubans who despise White Cubans	vaberella	Apr 2012	#8
White Cubans despise Black Cubans as well...	CherokeeDem	Apr 2012	#64
I had heard anecdotally that one of the advances in Castro's Cuba was	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#89
They say that many of the American Cubans are white looking.	craigmatic	Apr 2012	#101
Not really	Taverner	Apr 2012	#134
I believe I stated "vice versa."	vaberella	Apr 2012	#161
And from living in S Texas	Gman	Apr 2012	#14
I'm beginning to see that.	Justice wanted	Apr 2012	#25
Thank you!	bearded clam	Apr 2012	#166
Isn't it always the whites who say that the blacks are far more racist than any white?	zbdent	Apr 2012	#56
...and Hitler was part Jewish.	eShirl	Apr 2012	#3
Thank You. Or like Trujillo of Dominican Republic had a Haitian grandmother...	vaberella	Apr 2012	#7
And Charles Manson thought he might have a black ancestor	treestar	Apr 2012	#81
my first thought when I read the OP-	Bluerthanblue	Apr 2012	#91
I don't care if has has a heritage of being	LeftofObama	Apr 2012	#4
Right!	Cosmocat	Apr 2012	#11
The "child" thing is a bit disingenuous	pipoman	Apr 2012	#24
Your point being?	marmar	Apr 2012	#35
Referring to a 17 yo as a child is disingenuous..	pipoman	Apr 2012	#40
No. It's not disingenious	lunatica	Apr 2012	#62
We are talking about how he LOOKED that evening. 6'3"?	bearded clam	Apr 2012	#167
No the hell it's not. Because the law still sees him as a minor.	vaberella	Apr 2012	#65
A 17 year old is still a minor	treestar	Apr 2012	#82
"Teenager" would be more accurate, but "child" generates more sympathy.	ZombieHorde	Apr 2012	#138
A 17-year-old is a child	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#37
A child is generally considered someone who	pipoman	Apr 2012	#42
Didactic silliness.......Was he out of high school? Was he living independently of his parents?	marmar	Apr 2012	#46
None of those things define a "child"	pipoman	Apr 2012	#48
Oh. So pubic hair does.	Happyhippychick	Apr 2012	#55
Then there are a lot of toddlers committing serious crimes..17 falls in the	pipoman	Apr 2012	#58
You have just proven my point. 17 year olds are the demographic most likely to commit violent crime	Happyhippychick	Apr 2012	#60
well, then maybe Georgie-poo should have considered how his victim would be portrayed	uncle ray	Apr 2012	#88
So when a 9 year old gets her period she's no longer a child.	vaberella	Apr 2012	#66
clearly that IS what the poster is saying	etherealtruth	Apr 2012	#157
and none of your contortions define him as anything other	CatWoman	Apr 2012	#114
I'm getting the feeling that	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#121
A 17-year-old is a child	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#74
your pointless digression is distracting from the pointless purpose of the OP	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#129
Young man just doesn't hold the same sympathy.	Life Long Dem	Apr 2012	#145
Ask Trayvon Martin's mother about that.	Vanje	Apr 2012	#85
The "black" thing is a bit disingenuous	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2012	#95
In case you didn't know, people don't like to use the word "boy"	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#117
17 is still a child to me.	MrScorpio	Apr 2012	#137
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Scuba	Apr 2012	#5
And that means what? Many White Americans today have Black roots.	vaberella	Apr 2012	#6
I was about to say the same	CatWoman	Apr 2012	#113
Which part?	LuvNewcastle	Apr 2012	#9
You are always true to form, dkf	Nostradammit	Apr 2012	#10
I aim to inform...	dkf	Apr 2012	#12
But what does this information mean? Tell us? At least what does it mean to you?! n/t	vaberella	Apr 2012	#13
If you read the entire piece I think you will see a picture with a little more	dkf	Apr 2012	#19
No it is not nuanced and who besides you and his defense team thinks this is important information?	LaurenG	Apr 2012	#63
Alas the history of 911 calls, even before this	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#107
Yes it does.	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#119
Oh fine, reading legalese for a proposition	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#124
Ugh.	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#127
Well Zimmerman also has white roots	lunatica	Apr 2012	#26
eally depends on if the information is relevant, or irrelevant and meant...	LanternWaste	Apr 2012	#57
"allow us the precise relevance of the information as it relates to the story as whole"	Chan790	Apr 2012	#79
What difference does it make?	LaurenG	Apr 2012	#61
Signal vs. Noise.	Chan790	Apr 2012	#73
Ha!	LaurenG	Apr 2012	#83
Well said...	Spazito	Apr 2012	#103
Trayvon WAS part white.	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#15
I sincerely doubt the OP will offer anything. Most of his/her posts are in defense of Zimmerman.	vaberella	Apr 2012	#16
dkf = OMC	Dogtown	Apr 2012	#20
Sorry but dfk won't have a thing to say to you about that.	Rex	Apr 2012	#106
This changes everything	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2012	#17
"black" is as much a socio-political term	Anarcho-Socialist	Apr 2012	#18
No he was probably perceived as Hispanic.	dkf	Apr 2012	#22
With that last name	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#108
HOLD ON!!! White, now has a look? Hahahaha...Bless. n/t	vaberella	Apr 2012	#162
Totally not worth responding to	LaurenG	Apr 2012	#21
This page left intentionally blank LOL	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#102
Heh, I changed my mind further down or up..	LaurenG	Apr 2012	#120
And in your opinion that makes him non racist?	lunatica	Apr 2012	#23
Personally, I never saw it as a racial	Shankapotomus	Apr 2012	#27
The SYG law is fine.	LAGC	Apr 2012	#34
I agree	Shankapotomus	Apr 2012	#47
I agree that SYG is stupid, but......	marmar	Apr 2012	#39
There was certainly, at the very least,	Shankapotomus	Apr 2012	#93
I'm not sure what the motivation	pipoman	Apr 2012	#28
The Black Panthers haven't been involved in this	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#41
Really? They didn't offer a "dead or alive" bounty on Zimmerman?	pipoman	Apr 2012	#44
No. That was a group called "The New Black Panthers" that have nothing to do with the	Starry Messenger	Apr 2012	#49
mea culpa	pipoman	Apr 2012	#50
It's about the institutionalized racism of profiling,	ronnie624	Apr 2012	#92
Anyone who refers to the New Black Panthers (all 5 of them) as anything even worth mentioning...	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#131
My family are minorites	TZ	Apr 2012	#29
Lol - so now it's St George the biracial altar boy...	ananda	Apr 2012	#30
My dog is part Alaskan Malamute but he doesn't like Sarah Palin.	undeterred	Apr 2012	#31
ROFL...you made me piss on myself! Fuck! n/t	vaberella	Apr 2012	#68
So Al Sharpton DID protest black on black crime?! Go figure...	ejbr	Apr 2012	#32
Sorry, but who the hell cares and why is that relevant?	a la izquierda	Apr 2012	#33
Thanks for this explanation	kwassa	Apr 2012	#90
No worries.	a la izquierda	Apr 2012	#118
So Jorge is a white, black, hispanic, Peruvian jew	Baclava	Apr 2012	#36
What an OP to wake up to	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#38
There are no words...n/t	vaberella	Apr 2012	#69
Seriously	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#76
And...?	Iggo	Apr 2012	#43
The 'racism' element is institutional.	TahitiNut	Apr 2012	#45
This has reached absurdities totally undreamed of.	Starry Messenger	Apr 2012	#51
The least relevant fact yet found!	GOTV	Apr 2012	#52
Animal control told Zim to buy a gun...	Iggo	Apr 2012	#59
This bullshit hearkens back to the "One Drop" rule...	stlsaxman	Apr 2012	#53
I think having a father who was a magistrate had something to do with him getting away with murder.	Crowman1979	Apr 2012	#54
Like the OP, that is another irrelevant fact	ProgressiveProfessor	Apr 2012	#67
so?	spanone	Apr 2012	#70
So? a young man is still dead.	WI_DEM	Apr 2012	#71
He also suffers from a dangerous hero complex. Go figure.	JoePhilly	Apr 2012	#72
I Don't Think Zimmerman Was Any More Or Less Racist Than Your Average American	DemocratSinceBirth	Apr 2012	#75
So is Herman Cain	snooper2	Apr 2012	#77
LOL! n/t	ProSense	Apr 2012	#98
I see... Just for clarity, what's your point?	BklnDem75	Apr 2012	#78
Not enough for racists to see him as black when he's walking down the street	treestar	Apr 2012	#80
Holy shit!!!!	Cali_Democrat	Apr 2012	#84
STFW? He still followed an unarmed teen, confronted and killed him	rustydog	Apr 2012	#86
So? Your point is? Is this sh!t stirring in the "one drop" assumption?	myrna minx	Apr 2012	#87
Great-grandfather? What a stretch. n/t	Gormy Cuss	Apr 2012	#94
That makes me part white.	ProSense	Apr 2012	#97
And it makes me racially mixed	Gormy Cuss	Apr 2012	#100
my great grandmother wasn't white, so I guess I'm not white either	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#135
Yet another stupid douchebag race baiting thread - Drudge, Beck, Hannity and Rush shit stirring	jpak	Apr 2012	#96
We're all part black. Life started in Africa. It doesn't excuse what he did.	craigmatic	Apr 2012	#99
Thread winner	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#110
ding ding ding ding ding	jpak	Apr 2012	#111
Thank you.	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#123
And your point is?	Arkana	Apr 2012	#104
And how does that change the fact that he murdered a kid in cold blood?	Rex	Apr 2012	#105
This post was hidden by jury decision.	DisgustipatedinCA	Apr 2012	#109
Now now....	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#112
This message was self-deleted by its author	Cali_Democrat	Apr 2012	#125
so it's really black on black crime. I get it.	librechik	Apr 2012	#115
And? nt	MrScorpio	Apr 2012	#116
Everyone is free to do their own analysis on what it means to them.	dkf	Apr 2012	#130
Here's my answer then	MrScorpio	Apr 2012	#143
Your title was your own creation based on a form of the "one drop rule"	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#148
Wow, now that is sad.	Rex	Apr 2012	#163
phew, that gets the white race off the hook!	Enrique	Apr 2012	#122
I didn't know the "white race" was on the hook	4th law of robotics	Apr 2012	#133
Dude, the "white race" is always on the hook.	MrScorpio	Apr 2012	#136
According to the US Census bi-raclal people have the choice as to declare how	snagglepuss	Apr 2012	#126
have you ever commented on "black on black" crime?	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#128
thanks for stepping us through each rationalization you internalize	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#132
HAHAHA... oh my	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#139
Pretty insulting OP.	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#140
and Strom Thurmond had a black daughter he took care of financially	JI7	Apr 2012	#141
And I hear his "Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather" thinks you're a racist bigotted asshat troll	RetroLounge	Apr 2012	#142
ROFL	Cali_Democrat	Apr 2012	#149
So what?? Practically EVERY white person in America has black ancesters	Raine	Apr 2012	#144
The controversy even on this left-of-center forum is "Exhibit A" as to why the hate crime	cr8tvlde	Apr 2012	#146
This OP is part red herring	Bruce Wayne	Apr 2012	#147
Zimmerman is black! STOP EVERYTHING!!!	A Simple Game	Apr 2012	#150
I rarely miss unrec. For this I do. However, is interesting to see who rec'd this, wonder why?	uppityperson	Apr 2012	#151
OOh some of those names I recognize.	vaberella	Apr 2012	#160
He is bicultured.	Baitball Blogger	Apr 2012	#152
why does his race matter?	tnvoter	Apr 2012	#153
It matters to white supremacists, who are pushing this	pinboy3niner	Apr 2012	#158
and trayvon martin is fully dead	arely staircase	Apr 2012	#154
Maybe someone should have told him this	varelse	Apr 2012	#155
DKF is part asshole as we all are	Ichingcarpenter	Apr 2012	#156
Sometimes, when we are forming and	Rex	Apr 2012	#164
I'm curious to your angle	JonLP24	Apr 2012	#159
Trying to stir up a shitstorm F5.	Rex	Apr 2012	#165

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