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In the discussion thread: Anybody know exactly when did it all get so ugly - the hatred for government and public employees? [View all]

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Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:14 AM

FarCenter (13,520 posts)

100. When was there a time when people thought well of government and politicians?

They have been a target of satirists, cartoonists, and columnists for as long as there have been newspapers.

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133 replies	Author	Time	Post
Anybody know exactly when did it all get so ugly - the hatred for government and public employees? [View all]	Peregrine Took	Apr 2012	OP
First, Raygun, then talk-radio, and as times get tough, people get envious of	sinkingfeeling	Apr 2012	#1
1980 when Ronald Reagan came along	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#2
Specifically, when organized labor allowed Reagan to bust PATCO	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#43
That was the legacy left by George Meany. He ended up fucking the rank-and-file.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2012	#129
See: Newt Gingrich circa 1993/94 n/t	jaysunb	Apr 2012	#3
I offered the same answer	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2012	#31
When taxes to pay for such things	kctim	Apr 2012	#4
taxes have decreased for decades	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#11
kctim makes up a lot of assertions.	arbusto_baboso	Apr 2012	#18
Yeah really. He and dkf should get a room.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#21
LOL. Yep. dkf for sure. "I just don't see any probable	Solomon	Apr 2012	#24
A room that deals with facts does sound pretty good.	kctim	Apr 2012	#36
You've been FACT FREE your entire time at DU	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#40
Then start shooting them down.	kctim	Apr 2012	#51
They're being picked off as I type.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#53
the tax one, again	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#91
yes, I'm sure you would recommend it to other people	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#99
Perfect!	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2012	#37
I thoroughly approve this post. It tells a truth.	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2012	#70
Beat me to it.	hifiguy	Apr 2012	#26
That is because	kctim	Apr 2012	#33
You mean Dixiecrat principles.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#38
I do not pretend to be liberal/progressive at all	kctim	Apr 2012	#112
Are you against a woman's right to choose?	UnrepentantLiberal	Apr 2012	#123
Then you take it wrong	kctim	Apr 2012	#130
What stances on marriage? Are you against marriage equality?	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#125
I support marriage	kctim	Apr 2012	#131
What other interpretations ARE there?	arbusto_baboso	Apr 2012	#41
Well, there are "centrist" ones. Or so we've been told.	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2012	#54
So what will you type next to "support Democratic principles?"	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2012	#68
you do support Democratic Party principles	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#92
Local taxes have not - that's the huge fight we are having in Rhode Island	hack89	Apr 2012	#27
what is your local tax rate?	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#101
We still pay more than people did	kctim	Apr 2012	#28
Freedom isn't free.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#34
Let's explore WHY that is, kctim.	arbusto_baboso	Apr 2012	#35
How about we "explore" the question the OP asked	kctim	Apr 2012	#47
Actually, I would dispute that "correlation".	arbusto_baboso	Apr 2012	#48
Doesn't matter	kctim	Apr 2012	#62
Oh, but it DOES matter.	arbusto_baboso	Apr 2012	#63
Lighten up Francis	kctim	Apr 2012	#65
Why are you here? You talk just like a bagger	DisgustipatedinCA	Apr 2012	#55
were you in the 1% then? (note your sigline "1% er")	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#45
He's just outing himself	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#46
I never claimed to be the 1%	kctim	Apr 2012	#50
So you're a big bad ass biker? Who pays for the roads that you terrorize?	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#52
Never claimed to be that either	kctim	Apr 2012	#66
Not if you live up to those stereotypes big tough rugged individual that you are.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#69
So "1% er" means that you are part of the 99%?	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#56
It Is A Claim Of 'Outlaw' Status, Sir	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#61
It's a way of life	kctim	Apr 2012	#67
Not Anymore, Fella: Now It Is Just A Niche Market....	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#73
He's a big bad ass rebel that doesn't have to play by societies rules.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#74
He Has To Buy That Leather Gear Somewhere, Ma'am....	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#76
I'm amused that so many weekend Harley enthusiasts consider themself as 1%ers.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#77
Strikes me more as a Donor Cycle sort	REP	Apr 2012	#102
A Self-Correcting Problem, Ma'am, That Sort Of Thing....	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#103
I see I'm in fine company	REP	Apr 2012	#127
I have stated neither of those things	kctim	Apr 2012	#111
But We Have All Moved On, Sir, To The Humor Of Your 1% Patch....	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#128
outlaw in life or on DU?	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#93
Perhaps one of the "Born to be Mild" crowd?	GoneOffShore	Apr 2012	#133
WE pay more, rich assholes don't pay enough.	alarimer	Apr 2012	#84
I never said that was not true	kctim	Apr 2012	#113
People started quitting their jobs so they wouldn't have to pay taxes?	arcane1	Apr 2012	#20
Nice sig kc - 1% er. Who knew?	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#29
Who knew?	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2012	#39
No, it was when ALEC and other rightwing Organizations saw all those Public Funds	sabrina 1	Apr 2012	#42
Exactly. n/t	Mister Ed	Apr 2012	#104
thank you!!!	newspeak	Apr 2012	#119
That's not the whole story	badtoworse	Apr 2012	#60
So I see you have the RW talking points memorized.	Release The Hounds	Apr 2012	#71
What I posted is either true or it isn't.	badtoworse	Apr 2012	#89
Standard RW generalizations	Release The Hounds	Apr 2012	#95
That doesn't conform to the little box some have created	kctim	Apr 2012	#115
I'm pissed off, but not at gov't	Hissyspit	Apr 2012	#90
so, it's either we bring everyone up	newspeak	Apr 2012	#121
Um, I pay my taxes. I don't	Hissyspit	Apr 2012	#88
So you think taxes have gone up for Americans??	adigal	Apr 2012	#118
It started with Raygun and then the movie execs	BlueCaliDem	Apr 2012	#5
Quibble: The "Alien" series wasn't government	Occulus	Apr 2012	#120
I have noticed that public employees carrying military grade weapons do not suffer this problem.	HereSince1628	Apr 2012	#6
Just another way to gut the last of the middle class jobs.	Iris	Apr 2012	#7
When Clinton was in office	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2012	#8
No	CreekDog	Apr 2012	#9
When were you born? 1996?	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#13
I wonder when jaysunb was born	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2012	#32
I'm sorry, I meant 1986.	devilgrrl	Apr 2012	#44
1943	jaysunb	Apr 2012	#85
There you go	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2012	#106
I can only remember back to the 1940's, It was current then.	Downwinder	Apr 2012	#10
When St. Ronnie Raygun said this	Initech	Apr 2012	#12
Set In In '64, Sir, Blossomed Out In '80, Went Toxic around 2000	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#14
I believe your answer encapsulated most if not the entirety of what happened with government.	Selatius	Apr 2012	#30
It is the divide an conquer menu...	angstlessk	Apr 2012	#64
This is by far, the best answer to the OP's question	Oilwellian	Apr 2012	#80
I agree. This is a great explanation. n/t	YvonneCa	Apr 2012	#83
When Will Liberals Start To Push Back On 'Government Is Bad' Falacy of The rePIGs?	mazzarro	Apr 2012	#15
About the time Wall Street figured it could vulture capitalize public pension funds	leveymg	Apr 2012	#16
Except for the glorified military..of course.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Apr 2012	#17
And Repuke legislators, judges, and bureaucrats who	LibDemAlways	Apr 2012	#116
Radio is propaganda designed to create an emotional response	just1voice	Apr 2012	#19
It would not surprise me if this all began with ALEC	Whoa_Nelly	Apr 2012	#22
it started in the 1950s with Eisenhower	NewJeffCT	Apr 2012	#23
Do you have one example of when Ike was involved with hatred for government and public employees?	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2012	#59
I never said he did	NewJeffCT	Apr 2012	#78
After Nixon used "egghead" to refer to Stevenson's baldness, Stevenson may have sought to offset	AnotherMcIntosh	Apr 2012	#94
"Exactly" isn't really possible	Spike89	Apr 2012	#25
Not exactly a date.....	Spoonman	Apr 2012	#49
When hypocrisy (reagan) became Super Cool....I know government employees who hate themselves..	Tikki	Apr 2012	#57
I don't get the "overpaid" part	Proud Liberal Dem	Apr 2012	#58
It was sometime around 1776	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#72
My experience - early 1990's...	WinniSkipper	Apr 2012	#75
In the US? A few centuries ago. It's always been there; it's gone through periods of	NYC Liberal	Apr 2012	#79
the Republicans started it when they were upset that minorities were benefitting from the jobs...	Baitball Blogger	Apr 2012	#81
1980, thereabouts...	dionysus	Apr 2012	#82
Some excellent posts here, but it's not just public employees either.	Populist_Prole	Apr 2012	#86
I've noticed that the hatred gets worse when the economy	Liquorice	Apr 2012	#87
Reagan	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#96
Post-Watergate when trust in government sharply declined...	Liberal_Stalwart71	Apr 2012	#97
ETA: I wouldn't discount the 60s prominence of government	Liberal_Stalwart71	Apr 2012	#98
When was there a time when people thought well of government and politicians?	FarCenter	Apr 2012	#100
Yes, but there were limits	quaker bill	Apr 2012	#107
the media decides which affairs will be exposed and which won't	newspeak	Apr 2012	#122
A 30 year disinformation.	sendero	Apr 2012	#105
when the greed meisters took over the airwaves.	barbtries	Apr 2012	#108
It started with Reagan	quaker bill	Apr 2012	#109
Reagan, Thatcher and Rupert Murdoch	malaise	Apr 2012	#110
1965 - 1966, The Great Society. That's what they hate so much, they are	Egalitarian Thug	Apr 2012	#114
Classic blame the victims	libodem	Apr 2012	#117
Reagan (head of government) "The government is not your friend!"	librechik	Apr 2012	#124
Ronnie Reagan saying "Government isn't the solution, it's the problem"	Taverner	Apr 2012	#126
I would say right about the time	Shankapotomus	Apr 2012	#132

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