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Anybody know exactly when did it all get so ugly - the hatred for government and public employees? [View all] Peregrine Took Apr 2012 OP

First, Raygun, then talk-radio, and as times get tough, people get envious of sinkingfeeling Apr 2012 #1

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Specifically, when organized labor allowed Reagan to bust PATCO coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #43

That was the legacy left by George Meany. He ended up fucking the rank-and-file. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #129

See: Newt Gingrich circa 1993/94 n/t jaysunb Apr 2012 #3

I offered the same answer Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #31

When taxes to pay for such things kctim Apr 2012 #4

taxes have decreased for decades CreekDog Apr 2012 #11

kctim makes up a lot of assertions. arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #18

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LOL. Yep. dkf for sure. "I just don't see any probable Solomon Apr 2012 #24

A room that deals with facts does sound pretty good. kctim Apr 2012 #36

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Then start shooting them down. kctim Apr 2012 #51

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the tax one, again CreekDog Apr 2012 #91

yes, I'm sure you would recommend it to *other* people CreekDog Apr 2012 #99

Perfect! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #37

I thoroughly approve this post. It tells a truth. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #70

Beat me to it. hifiguy Apr 2012 #26

That is because kctim Apr 2012 #33

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I do not pretend to be liberal/progressive at all kctim Apr 2012 #112

Are you against a woman's right to choose? UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #123

Then you take it wrong kctim Apr 2012 #130

What stances on marriage? Are you against marriage equality? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #125

I support marriage kctim Apr 2012 #131

What other interpretations ARE there? arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #41

Well, there are "centrist" ones. Or so we've been told. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2012 #54

So what will you type next to "support Democratic principles?" 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #68

you do support Democratic Party principles CreekDog Apr 2012 #92

Local taxes have not - that's the huge fight we are having in Rhode Island hack89 Apr 2012 #27

what is your local tax rate? CreekDog Apr 2012 #101

We still pay more than people did kctim Apr 2012 #28

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Let's explore WHY that is, kctim. arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #35

How about we "explore" the question the OP asked kctim Apr 2012 #47

Actually, I would dispute that "correlation". arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #48

Doesn't matter kctim Apr 2012 #62

Oh, but it DOES matter. arbusto_baboso Apr 2012 #63

Lighten up Francis kctim Apr 2012 #65

Why are you here? You talk just like a bagger DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #55

were you in the 1% then? (note your sigline "1% er") CreekDog Apr 2012 #45

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I never claimed to be the 1% kctim Apr 2012 #50

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Never claimed to be that either kctim Apr 2012 #66

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So "1% er" means that you are part of the 99%? CreekDog Apr 2012 #56

It Is A Claim Of 'Outlaw' Status, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #61

It's a way of life kctim Apr 2012 #67

Not Anymore, Fella: Now It Is Just A Niche Market.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #73

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He Has To Buy That Leather Gear Somewhere, Ma'am.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #76

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Strikes me more as a Donor Cycle sort REP Apr 2012 #102

A Self-Correcting Problem, Ma'am, That Sort Of Thing.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #103

I see I'm in fine company REP Apr 2012 #127

I have stated neither of those things kctim Apr 2012 #111

But We Have All Moved On, Sir, To The Humor Of Your 1% Patch.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #128

outlaw in life or on DU? CreekDog Apr 2012 #93

Perhaps one of the "Born to be Mild" crowd? GoneOffShore Apr 2012 #133

WE pay more, rich assholes don't pay enough. alarimer Apr 2012 #84

I never said that was not true kctim Apr 2012 #113

People started quitting their jobs so they wouldn't have to pay taxes? arcane1 Apr 2012 #20

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Who knew? SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #39

No, it was when ALEC and other rightwing Organizations saw all those Public Funds sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #42

Exactly. n/t Mister Ed Apr 2012 #104

thank you!!! newspeak Apr 2012 #119

That's not the whole story badtoworse Apr 2012 #60

So I see you have the RW talking points memorized. Release The Hounds Apr 2012 #71

What I posted is either true or it isn't. badtoworse Apr 2012 #89

Standard RW generalizations Release The Hounds Apr 2012 #95

That doesn't conform to the little box some have created kctim Apr 2012 #115

I'm pissed off, but not at gov't Hissyspit Apr 2012 #90

so, it's either we bring everyone up newspeak Apr 2012 #121

Um, I pay my taxes. I don't Hissyspit Apr 2012 #88

So you think taxes have gone up for Americans?? adigal Apr 2012 #118

It started with Raygun and then the movie execs BlueCaliDem Apr 2012 #5

Quibble: The "Alien" series wasn't government Occulus Apr 2012 #120

I have noticed that public employees carrying military grade weapons do not suffer this problem. HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #6

Just another way to gut the last of the middle class jobs. Iris Apr 2012 #7

When Clinton was in office Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #8

No CreekDog Apr 2012 #9

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I wonder when jaysunb was born Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #32

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1943 jaysunb Apr 2012 #85

There you go Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #106

I can only remember back to the 1940's, It was current then. Downwinder Apr 2012 #10

When St. Ronnie Raygun said this Initech Apr 2012 #12

Set In In '64, Sir, Blossomed Out In '80, Went Toxic around 2000 The Magistrate Apr 2012 #14

I believe your answer encapsulated most if not the entirety of what happened with government. Selatius Apr 2012 #30

It is the divide an conquer menu... angstlessk Apr 2012 #64

This is by far, the best answer to the OP's question Oilwellian Apr 2012 #80

I agree. This is a great explanation. n/t YvonneCa Apr 2012 #83

When Will Liberals Start To Push Back On 'Government Is Bad' Falacy of The rePIGs? mazzarro Apr 2012 #15

About the time Wall Street figured it could vulture capitalize public pension funds leveymg Apr 2012 #16

Except for the glorified military..of course. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #17

And Repuke legislators, judges, and bureaucrats who LibDemAlways Apr 2012 #116

Radio is propaganda designed to create an emotional response just1voice Apr 2012 #19

It would not surprise me if this all began with ALEC Whoa_Nelly Apr 2012 #22

it started in the 1950s with Eisenhower NewJeffCT Apr 2012 #23

Do you have one example of when Ike was involved with hatred for government and public employees? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2012 #59

I never said he did NewJeffCT Apr 2012 #78

After Nixon used "egghead" to refer to Stevenson's baldness, Stevenson may have sought to offset AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2012 #94

"Exactly" isn't really possible Spike89 Apr 2012 #25

Not exactly a date..... Spoonman Apr 2012 #49

When hypocrisy (reagan) became Super Cool....I know government employees who hate themselves.. Tikki Apr 2012 #57

I don't get the "overpaid" part Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2012 #58

It was sometime around 1776 Kaleva Apr 2012 #72

My experience - early 1990's... WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #75

In the US? A few centuries ago. It's always been there; it's gone through periods of NYC Liberal Apr 2012 #79

the Republicans started it when they were upset that minorities were benefitting from the jobs... Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #81

1980, thereabouts... dionysus Apr 2012 #82

Some excellent posts here, but it's not just public employees either. Populist_Prole Apr 2012 #86

I've noticed that the hatred gets worse when the economy Liquorice Apr 2012 #87

Reagan GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #96

Post-Watergate when trust in government sharply declined... Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #97

ETA: I wouldn't discount the 60s prominence of government Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #98

When was there a time when people thought well of government and politicians? FarCenter Apr 2012 #100

Yes, but there were limits quaker bill Apr 2012 #107

the media decides which affairs will be exposed and which won't newspeak Apr 2012 #122

A 30 year disinformation. sendero Apr 2012 #105

when the greed meisters took over the airwaves. barbtries Apr 2012 #108

It started with Reagan quaker bill Apr 2012 #109

Reagan, Thatcher and Rupert Murdoch malaise Apr 2012 #110

1965 - 1966, The Great Society. That's what they hate so much, they are Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #114

Classic blame the victims libodem Apr 2012 #117

Reagan (head of government) "The government is not your friend!" librechik Apr 2012 #124

Ronnie Reagan saying "Government isn't the solution, it's the problem" Taverner Apr 2012 #126

I would say right about the time Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #132