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In the discussion thread: Does the two-Party system help or hurt our country ?? [View all]

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Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:30 PM

kentuck (66,861 posts)

8. It's the natural evolution of politics...

in its present state.

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66 replies	Author	Time	Post
Does the two-Party system help or hurt our country ?? [View all]	kentuck	Apr 2012	OP
It isnt the two party system at fault. As long as American citizens	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#1
Amen Brother...	cbrer	Apr 2012	#3
Unfortunately, the present system does not permit either side to wake up...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#5
In a practical sense, there aren't any options.	Selatius	Apr 2012	#10
In my opinion...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#13
Duverger's Law would tend to work against a third viable party from emerging here.	Selatius	Apr 2012	#20
The electoral college is the most important problem facing multiparty advocates.	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#21
no doubt...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#23
IMO getting a "rational candidate" to win against the SYSTEM is like	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#27
It would not be easy...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#28
Even when the people dont like what is happening, I dont believe they recognize	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#54
The US simply lacks publicly funded elections. That's why we always choose rich people.	Selatius	Apr 2012	#6
I agree and in addition, until we get a huge majority of the population willing to vote to change it	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#9
I don't think that is possible...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#11
I think it hurts	DJ13	Apr 2012	#2
I think it is becoming a necessity...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#4
I'll go along with this	gratuitous	Apr 2012	#12
Well said.	kentuck	Apr 2012	#16
OK let's look at how to break out a third party.	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#55
how is republicans and republican-lites a 2 party system? nt	msongs	Apr 2012	#7
It's the natural evolution of politics...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#8
Of course it hurts us. That was the founders' greatest mistake.	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#14
I've said it before: We have a 12 party system.	Speck Tater	Apr 2012	#15
destroys... nt	Romulox	Apr 2012	#17
It hurts badly because at this stage the debate is so damn phony but ever more partisan	TheKentuckian	Apr 2012	#18
It hurts, but it can be fixed with instant run-off voting like the Aussies do it. n/t	Cleita	Apr 2012	#19
I think the electoral college is an insurmountable obstacle to third parties. It has to go first.	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#22
I'm all for that.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#24
But, the electoral college only affects presidential elections.	kentuck	Apr 2012	#25
My point is, if a party can't make a credible bid for the White House, getting support for it	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#29
I don't think the present system is set up for a presidential bid...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#31
And in that we are in agreement, it is not set up for a Presidential bid, therefore the electoral	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#33
You assume that a Democratic President would not support...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#36
Winning a national campaign would still entail getting support from the same voters. Therefore...	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#40
I am just brain-storming but...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#42
The GOP changed radically with Reagan. All of the progressive legislation you mentioned is preReagan	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#50
Do you mean "centrist" legislation like...?	kentuck	Apr 2012	#26
Nope, no specifics. I meant just what I said. You will have frequent centrist coalitions. The issues	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#32
My point is that...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#34
I don't think so. I think the Republicans have successfully brainwashed their folks to the point	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#41
I would agree they do not like Democrats...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#43
Has nothing to do with Party label. They have thrown out Republicans who voted for these things too	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#44
Good people have the power of persuasion...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#45
Which people? Chomsky? Kucinich? Klein? Obama? Clinton? Gravel? Sanders? They are already speaking	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#49
OK, but how are you going to get the oligarchs to allow IRO voting? nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#59
Occupy the voting booth? Yes, they will resist so we must insist.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#62
Before we can replace those reps that have sold out to Corp-America	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#63
True, but giving up is not an option either. n/t	Cleita	Apr 2012	#65
NGU, however we must realize that voting and sending emails isnt enough. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#66
The two party system was fine	guitar man	Apr 2012	#30
The system is broken and the oligarchs wont let you fix it.	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#35
That is one option...	kentuck	Apr 2012	#39
If you want me to believe that there is hope, you will have to convince me that	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#53
I think we should have four major parties	meow2u3	Apr 2012	#37
I am a staunch supporter of the two-party system	KamaAina	Apr 2012	#38
Lewis Black on the two party system:	Initech	Apr 2012	#46
The "two party system" helps maintain the illusion of democracy in a capitalist state.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Apr 2012	#47
Sh-h-h-h....	kentuck	Apr 2012	#48
..	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#57
Helps.	bluestate10	Apr 2012	#51
Hurts.	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#52
Anyone who dislikes it is welcome to start a new party (nt)	Nye Bevan	Apr 2012	#56
So how do you feel about it? nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#58
One of my senators is neither a Republican nor a Democrat.	Nye Bevan	Apr 2012	#60
And yet he does not support starting a new party. nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#64
crippling	KG	Apr 2012	#61

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