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In the discussion thread: Why UAVs and Other Drones Won't be Used Frequently [View all]

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:17 AM

40. The FAA and airspace issues remain unresolved

Congress via appropriation legislation has ordered the FAA to start a pilot project to integrate UAV into the airspace at 6 facilities. There are airports competing to participate, though they tend to be outlying, not like LAX.

The real issue is see and avoid. Even UAVs with forward looking cameras are not capable of seeing other aircraft. Electronics could help somewhat, except there are large quantities of aircraft without transponders, radios, ads-b, etc.

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113 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why UAVs and Other Drones Won't be Used Frequently [View all]	MineralMan	Apr 2012	OP
Mission creep of the security state is still a concern	agentS	Apr 2012	#1
DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner	Taverner	Apr 2012	#85
And how can you be sure that UAVs won't be used for killing and other horrible purposes.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#2
Yeah, I hear helicopters in St. Paul, MN, too.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#3
Come on, man.	randome	Apr 2012	#58
Have you been to Minnesota? The Mosquito is our	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#61
The mosquitoes have evolved to fly the choppers!	randome	Apr 2012	#68
oh, c'mon. be a good woodchuck. remember, if you haven't done anything wrong,	KG	Apr 2012	#4
Complete manufactured outrage. Remote Control planes with Cameras have been around for 50+ years	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#43
It's always too early to complain..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#55
Why would it be doing that?	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#62
Again, not everywhere is the city you live in..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#64
Or a guy standing there with one of these...	SidDithers	Apr 2012	#73
Do they fly helicopters over your home to look for pot plants where you live, Sid?	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#74
manpower.	HiPointDem	Apr 2012	#108
The only human powered helicopter is actually woman powered...	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#112
You don't have any right to air space over your house.	FSogol	Apr 2012	#6
You do have a right to some of the air space over your house.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#19
Do you have rights to the airspace above your house?	Bake	Apr 2012	#7
Yes. You have a right some of the air space over your house.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#20
Good point, but the Court did not define how high they extend.	Bake	Apr 2012	#26
Maybe high enough to build a skyscraper if you want.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#46
Maybe, but maybe not too	Major Nikon	Apr 2012	#51
Good for you.	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#93
FAA gets consulted within a certain radius of the airport...but they do not always win	ProgressiveProfessor	Apr 2012	#100
Not just around airports	Major Nikon	Apr 2012	#107
That skyscraper might depend on the zoning ordinances ...	Bake	Apr 2012	#66
The court also didn't define how much of that the government can take	Major Nikon	Apr 2012	#50
Good post. I don't have any problems with drones.	FSogol	Apr 2012	#5
The cost for the UAVs themselves may come down,	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#9
Usually, upgrades to law enforcement tech comes from Federal grants.	FSogol	Apr 2012	#11
Yah, you're right. Still, for every drone that is deployed,	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#17
You can put together your own UAV for under a grand for a relatively unsophisticated model..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#27
Lovely video.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#32
Hell, you can do it for a lot less if you do it on the cheap.	TheWraith	Apr 2012	#52
Thanks for making my point with a sledgehammer..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#53
For now, they aren't allowed to carry weapons. But how much will it take for that to change?	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#24
Never changed for the police helicopters in my county in 20+ years. n/t	FSogol	Apr 2012	#29
Thanks for the much-needed voice of reason and sanity.	Bake	Apr 2012	#8
Wait until they use them to look for a pot plant on your back porch.	hobbit709	Apr 2012	#10
My back porch?`	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#12
They do it with helicopters now..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#15
Helicopters are being used to look for pot plants	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#25
Not everyone on DU lives in your city..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#31
I'm sure glad of that. There are plenty of people	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#33
A neighbor has a sun porch on the back of the house with a few non-reefer plants in it..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#36
Weird. We can't even get the cops to come look at	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#37
Someone growing a few plants on their back porch is unlikely to become violent when raided..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#41
Forfeiture laws determine who gets busted	bahrbearian	Apr 2012	#95
True that..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#99
Your elec use profile, is scrutinized for tells. Then, they use lies like you are beating a woman, s	WingDinger	Apr 2012	#57
They've been looking for excessive electrical use for a long	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#59
Are you sure they can't see through walls?	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#65
Actually, they can see thru walls.	WingDinger	Apr 2012	#67
You grow the weed, you take the chances, I guess.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#78
Yeah, cept it's legal for patients, and they didnt know squat about legal.	WingDinger	Apr 2012	#84
The authorities would never do something like that.. n/t	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#14
That may be why they hover over my house -- to snoop at my arugula, tomatoes,	JDPriestly	Apr 2012	#23
Opinions are like...	whatchamacallit	Apr 2012	#13
There are many non-law enforcement uses for drones	hack89	Apr 2012	#16
That's very true. I'm just talking about the use in	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#18
I agree with your premise	hack89	Apr 2012	#22
The Hollywood paparazi should buy some drones to spy on celebs better.	FSogol	Apr 2012	#21
Yup, and people sunbathing nude in their back yards. They'll	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#28
Uncreepitization fail.	whatchamacallit	Apr 2012	#30
I can't wait for the benign use of pain rays.	rug	Apr 2012	#34
Lmao	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#70
I, for one, welcome our future drone overlords.	Rex	Apr 2012	#75
$350 online	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#35
Nice RC model. What's its payload do you think?	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#39
Armored cars are also expensive...and HSD is providing funding mechanisms so communities buy them	HereSince1628	Apr 2012	#38
Yes, the City of St. Paul has one of those armored vehicles.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#42
So waste of a diversion of resources from actual areas of need are okay with you?	TheKentuckian	Apr 2012	#47
No, that is not all right with me.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#49
The FAA and airspace issues remain unresolved	ProgressiveProfessor	Apr 2012	#40
Yup. In major cities, airspace issues will be a large factor.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#45
If they didn't intend to use them then they wouldn't want them.	TheKentuckian	Apr 2012	#44
Remote control planes with cameras have existed for over 50 years. There is no change. nt	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#48
You have not been keeping up with the rules or the technology	ProgressiveProfessor	Apr 2012	#101
Ahh, so the FAA/Airtraffic safety is what we are talking about, not privacy or government intrusion	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#102
My primary concern is safety. FAA does not have a solution and is being forced to accept them via	ProgressiveProfessor	Apr 2012	#103
WHAT???	atheous	Apr 2012	#54
Armed soldiers on every corner and gps ankle bracelets for everyone	DefenseLawyer	Apr 2012	#56
That won't stop the paranoids here from freaking out.	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#60
just for that..	atheous	Apr 2012	#88
And we don't torture, and we don't lock people up indefinitely without charge or trial	gratuitous	Apr 2012	#63
Wars are expensive to go into and maintain too.	Autumn	Apr 2012	#69
Futurism is a complicated field, and it's not for everyone.	Robb	Apr 2012	#71
Good points.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#76
ACLU: Domestic Drones. "rubber bullets, tasers, and teargas".	Zorra	Apr 2012	#72
There's nothing wrong with being concerned.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#77
Yeah...I've worked some in the past to elect people	Zorra	Apr 2012	#79
I've been disappointed sometimes, too.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#80
There is nothing preventing anyone in the government -state or federal-	randome	Apr 2012	#81
I really don't like the idea of the personal culpability	Zorra	Apr 2012	#94
Not convincing at all. nt	Romulox	Apr 2012	#82
OK.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#83
Yes, and cameras on every street corner won't hurt anyone either, and	quinnox	Apr 2012	#86
Just curious, do you have any financial ties to the drone research program in your area?	LeftyMom	Apr 2012	#87
No, none whatsoever.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#89
It's really not odd to think something that reads like an advertisement is compensated.	LeftyMom	Apr 2012	#90
It is odd to think that, really, with no evidence.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#92
Are you a paid consultant for the anti-drone groups?	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#104
No. I don't write advertising at all.	LeftyMom	Apr 2012	#110
It's funny because what you are writing sounds like a takedown by a paid operative.	stevenleser	Apr 2012	#111
LOL.	Marr	Apr 2012	#91
Everybody RELAX!	bvar22	Apr 2012	#96
If the government wants to spy on people they will already be doing it.	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#97
...So, Nothing to worry about?	bvar22	Apr 2012	#98
Your numbers 1 and 2 are wrong.	morningfog	Apr 2012	#105
Ummm....	Canuckistanian	Apr 2012	#106
Oh, thank God. Guys, no worries,	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#109
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)	Unaccountable	May 2012	#113

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