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MineralMan

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33. I'm sure glad of that. There are plenty of people

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:05 AM

Apr 2012

living here already, I think.

How about your city? How do they use the choppers there? Are they peering into people's back yards looking for pot plants there?

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Why UAVs and Other Drones Won't be Used Frequently [View all] MineralMan Apr 2012 OP

Mission creep of the security state is still a concern agentS Apr 2012 #1

DING DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner Taverner Apr 2012 #85

And how can you be sure that UAVs won't be used for killing and other horrible purposes. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #2

Yeah, I hear helicopters in St. Paul, MN, too. MineralMan Apr 2012 #3

Come on, man. randome Apr 2012 #58

Have you been to Minnesota? The Mosquito is our MineralMan Apr 2012 #61

The mosquitoes have evolved to fly the choppers! randome Apr 2012 #68

oh, c'mon. be a good woodchuck. remember, if you haven't done anything wrong, KG Apr 2012 #4

Complete manufactured outrage. Remote Control planes with Cameras have been around for 50+ years stevenleser Apr 2012 #43

It's always too early to complain.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #55

Why would it be doing that? MineralMan Apr 2012 #62

Again, not everywhere is the city you live in.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #64

Or a guy standing there with one of these... SidDithers Apr 2012 #73

Do they fly helicopters over your home to look for pot plants where you live, Sid? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #74

manpower. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #108

The only human powered helicopter is actually woman powered... Fumesucker Apr 2012 #112

You don't have any right to air space over your house. FSogol Apr 2012 #6

You do have a right to some of the air space over your house. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #19

Do you have rights to the airspace above your house? Bake Apr 2012 #7

Yes. You have a right some of the air space over your house. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #20

Good point, but the Court did not define how high they extend. Bake Apr 2012 #26

Maybe high enough to build a skyscraper if you want. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #46

Maybe, but maybe not too Major Nikon Apr 2012 #51

Good for you. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #93

FAA gets consulted within a certain radius of the airport...but they do not always win ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #100

Not just around airports Major Nikon Apr 2012 #107

That skyscraper might depend on the zoning ordinances ... Bake Apr 2012 #66

The court also didn't define how much of that the government can take Major Nikon Apr 2012 #50

Good post. I don't have any problems with drones. FSogol Apr 2012 #5

The cost for the UAVs themselves may come down, MineralMan Apr 2012 #9

Usually, upgrades to law enforcement tech comes from Federal grants. FSogol Apr 2012 #11

Yah, you're right. Still, for every drone that is deployed, MineralMan Apr 2012 #17

You can put together your own UAV for under a grand for a relatively unsophisticated model.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #27

Lovely video. MineralMan Apr 2012 #32

Hell, you can do it for a lot less if you do it on the cheap. TheWraith Apr 2012 #52

Thanks for making my point with a sledgehammer.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #53

For now, they aren't allowed to carry weapons. But how much will it take for that to change? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #24

Never changed for the police helicopters in my county in 20+ years. n/t FSogol Apr 2012 #29

Thanks for the much-needed voice of reason and sanity. Bake Apr 2012 #8

Wait until they use them to look for a pot plant on your back porch. hobbit709 Apr 2012 #10

My back porch?` MineralMan Apr 2012 #12

They do it with helicopters now.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #15

Helicopters are being used to look for pot plants MineralMan Apr 2012 #25

Not everyone on DU lives in your city.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #31

I'm sure glad of that. There are plenty of people MineralMan Apr 2012 #33

A neighbor has a sun porch on the back of the house with a few non-reefer plants in it.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #36

Weird. We can't even get the cops to come look at MineralMan Apr 2012 #37

Someone growing a few plants on their back porch is unlikely to become violent when raided.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #41

Forfeiture laws determine who gets busted bahrbearian Apr 2012 #95

True that.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #99

Your elec use profile, is scrutinized for tells. Then, they use lies like you are beating a woman, s WingDinger Apr 2012 #57

They've been looking for excessive electrical use for a long MineralMan Apr 2012 #59

Are you sure they can't see through walls? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #65

Actually, they can see thru walls. WingDinger Apr 2012 #67

You grow the weed, you take the chances, I guess. MineralMan Apr 2012 #78

Yeah, cept it's legal for patients, and they didnt know squat about legal. WingDinger Apr 2012 #84

The authorities would *never* do something like that.. n/t Fumesucker Apr 2012 #14

That may be why they hover over my house -- to snoop at my arugula, tomatoes, JDPriestly Apr 2012 #23

Opinions are like... whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #13

There are many non-law enforcement uses for drones hack89 Apr 2012 #16

That's very true. I'm just talking about the use in MineralMan Apr 2012 #18

I agree with your premise hack89 Apr 2012 #22

The Hollywood paparazi should buy some drones to spy on celebs better. FSogol Apr 2012 #21

Yup, and people sunbathing nude in their back yards. They'll MineralMan Apr 2012 #28

Uncreepitization fail. whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #30

I can't wait for the benign use of pain rays. rug Apr 2012 #34

Lmao EFerrari Apr 2012 #70

I, for one, welcome our future drone overlords. Rex Apr 2012 #75

$350 online GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #35

Nice RC model. What's its payload do you think? MineralMan Apr 2012 #39

Armored cars are also expensive...and HSD is providing funding mechanisms so communities buy them HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #38

Yes, the City of St. Paul has one of those armored vehicles. MineralMan Apr 2012 #42

So waste of a diversion of resources from actual areas of need are okay with you? TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #47

No, that is not all right with me. MineralMan Apr 2012 #49

The FAA and airspace issues remain unresolved ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #40

Yup. In major cities, airspace issues will be a large factor. MineralMan Apr 2012 #45

If they didn't intend to use them then they wouldn't want them. TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #44

Remote control planes with cameras have existed for over 50 years. There is no change. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #48

You have not been keeping up with the rules or the technology ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #101

Ahh, so the FAA/Airtraffic safety is what we are talking about, not privacy or government intrusion stevenleser Apr 2012 #102

My primary concern is safety. FAA does not have a solution and is being forced to accept them via ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #103

WHAT??? atheous Apr 2012 #54

Armed soldiers on every corner and gps ankle bracelets for everyone DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #56

That won't stop the paranoids here from freaking out. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #60

just for that.. atheous Apr 2012 #88

And we don't torture, and we don't lock people up indefinitely without charge or trial gratuitous Apr 2012 #63

Wars are expensive to go into and maintain too. Autumn Apr 2012 #69

Futurism is a complicated field, and it's not for everyone. Robb Apr 2012 #71

Good points. MineralMan Apr 2012 #76

ACLU: Domestic Drones. "rubber bullets, tasers, and teargas". Zorra Apr 2012 #72

There's nothing wrong with being concerned. MineralMan Apr 2012 #77

Yeah...I've worked some in the past to elect people Zorra Apr 2012 #79

I've been disappointed sometimes, too. MineralMan Apr 2012 #80

There is nothing preventing anyone in the government -state or federal- randome Apr 2012 #81

I really don't like the idea of the personal culpability Zorra Apr 2012 #94

Not convincing *at all*. nt Romulox Apr 2012 #82

OK. MineralMan Apr 2012 #83

Yes, and cameras on every street corner won't hurt anyone either, and quinnox Apr 2012 #86

Just curious, do you have any financial ties to the drone research program in your area? LeftyMom Apr 2012 #87

No, none whatsoever. MineralMan Apr 2012 #89

It's really not odd to think something that reads like an advertisement is compensated. LeftyMom Apr 2012 #90

It is odd to think that, really, with no evidence. MineralMan Apr 2012 #92

Are you a paid consultant for the anti-drone groups? stevenleser Apr 2012 #104

No. I don't write advertising at all. LeftyMom Apr 2012 #110

It's funny because what you are writing sounds like a takedown by a paid operative. stevenleser Apr 2012 #111

LOL. Marr Apr 2012 #91

Everybody RELAX! bvar22 Apr 2012 #96

If the government wants to spy on people they will already be doing it. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #97

...So, Nothing to worry about? bvar22 Apr 2012 #98

Your numbers 1 and 2 are wrong. morningfog Apr 2012 #105

Ummm.... Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #106

Oh, thank God. Guys, no worries, Union Scribe Apr 2012 #109

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