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Response to xchrom (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:01 AM

17. That is It, Isn't It

First, economic systems rarely qualify as Communist, Socialist, and Capitalist in the most pure forms. The simple reason is, they don't work, at least Communism and Capitalism, if they are practiced in their most pure form. In fact, the very reason we're living in a failing economy is that the "slight" Socialism of our Capitalist economy, has been mostly distilled out of it.

So we've got a moving system. You could admit yes, we're heading more Socialist or Communist, when we do things like raise the minimum wage, or create health care for those who are sick and dying and do without. But it doesn't make us Communist, obviously.

But that is the way the Class War meme is set up by our center-right, wildly-right media spectrum. The rich can nearly say "worship me, pay me more, give me taxes," and it's OK. But the minute the worker asks for a bit more, or someone talks about the richest people and American corporations showing the mildest form of patriotism, and creating jobs here, instead of a foreign land, they go apoplectic. They talk about the worthless poor, how they can't hack it, already get paid too much, and that is all OK with our media. But don't ask for more. You don't get a say, as improving your life by using the government is NOT fine, it is, ahem, Communist. Giving huge handouts and government cash transfers to the rich, and their corporations, just fine. That means we're moving further to the right, squeezing ever more poor people out of the mix, so Billionaire capitalists can have "theirs."

It's all about brainwashing. They've taught us all these words, which ones are good, which ones are bad. They've taught Americans this stuff in the last 30 years, repeated them millions of times. The poor actually "feel" worthless, even though the worst thing most of them did, was be born to a poor person. Likewise, guys like Romney have as their best accomplishment being born to a big-time politician, that had a huge bank-account.

I hope we're not stuck, I hope Americans aren't too dumb to snap out of it, to feel worth, to demand theirs. We could have a full-employment, living wage, single-payer economy tomorrow if our government officials wanted it. It's a choice, and they've chosen to screw us--and most of the jobs could actually be from the private sector. It's all about making our own stuff again, making laws that make it difficult and more expensive to ship product, or money, in and out of the country, putting levees on both. Sadly things don't move so fast.

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