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Would you kindly explain your reasoning madokie Apr 2012 #1
If Zimmerman is shown to have been on the ground at the time the shots were fired. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #3
If the guy who was shown to be him was actually him in the police station video madokie Apr 2012 #16
I doubt the video of the video will be presented as evidence. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #21
"I doubt the video of the video" madokie Apr 2012 #26
They would never present that as evidence. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author savalez Apr 2012 #130
Ahh come on Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #74
What I don't get about that video goclark Apr 2012 #135
You call it lies but what if you are wrong? dkf Apr 2012 #129
did he get treatment for that "broken nose?" noiretextatique Apr 2012 #169
Supposedly he did. dkf Apr 2012 #184
um, that means no. if there is no evidence to support his claim noiretextatique Apr 2012 #188
Talk left had a pic of a before and after profile. dkf Apr 2012 #190
the official police tapes noiretextatique Apr 2012 #192
Why would you prefer police tapes to x-rays? That makes no sense at all. dkf Apr 2012 #193
because the tapes, taken right after the incident noiretextatique Apr 2012 #194
Doesn't prove anything one way or the other... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #159
Close... AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #2
Yep, Trayvon was standing over Zimmerman... rfranklin Apr 2012 #4
That will be a point of contention. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #5
Not this eyewitness: pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #6
Yes, but other eyewitnesses disagree with her. That's what will be fascinating. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #7
That's something that confuses MintyFresh Apr 2012 #8
A lot of time eyewitness testimony differs. Adrenaline and all that. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #9
Do you think he will go to trial or MintyFresh Apr 2012 #13
I hope there will be a trial. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #22
Ever seen "Rashomon"? Recursion Apr 2012 #10
I have wondered the same thing Daalalou Apr 2012 #49
This is an extremely common phenomenon. ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #161
which cracks me up ... zbdent Apr 2012 #34
Watch the Trevor Dooley case exboyfil Apr 2012 #11
Yes your're right MintyFresh Apr 2012 #12
Is there actually going to be a SYG hearing? I hadn't heard about that. Little Star Apr 2012 #15
After reading alot on the web MintyFresh Apr 2012 #17
If you see anything else about it please.. Little Star Apr 2012 #31
I will keep my MintyFresh Apr 2012 #204
Thanks. I'm just too busy right now &... Little Star Apr 2012 #205
np :) MintyFresh Apr 2012 #212
Part of the FL process ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #149
The medical examiner josephslaton Apr 2012 #14
That was the funeral home director pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #18
That is a very interesting witness. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #162
Keep hope alive. LOL. Your theories change as much Solomon Apr 2012 #19
Trajectory of gunshots is a theory? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #24
Jesse Jackson ain't got shit on this guy CatWoman Apr 2012 #39
If the gun shots are shown to be fired MintyFresh Apr 2012 #20
It really shouldn't matter countingbluecars Apr 2012 #23
Not really. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #25
You Do Not Have To Be Touched, Sir, To Have A Reasonable Fear Of Harm The Magistrate Apr 2012 #29
You do to get physical. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #32
No, Sir, You Do Not The Magistrate Apr 2012 #37
Please link to a law or previous case demonstrating this. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #38
Never Dealt Much With Police On the Street, Sir, Have You? The Magistrate Apr 2012 #41
That link is broken. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #42
You Will Ask For Links To Back Saying The Sun Rises In The East, Sir, Next The Magistrate Apr 2012 #44
+1 obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #53
That link doesn't work either. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #54
Awesome Joe the Revelator Apr 2012 #196
See SYG law JonLP24 Apr 2012 #48
Please post a case where that has been applied. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #55
I thought Zimmerman defenders knew this JonLP24 Apr 2012 #76
Maybe you missed this part Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #77
And you missed this part JonLP24 Apr 2012 #79
Please read your full post. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #81
What is your contention? JonLP24 Apr 2012 #84
And that will be the crux of the trial. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #87
I actually quoted the incorrect part JonLP24 Apr 2012 #99
There Is No Doubt About This, Sir, Only a Deliberate Refusal To Accede To Established Facts The Magistrate Apr 2012 #102
Martin had every right to defend himself MattBaggins Apr 2012 #216
Which Zimmerman Used, But Mr. Martin Certainly Did Not, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #83
Still having trouble coming up with a link to a case that supports your assertions? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #85
You Just Keep Wiggling Those Puffy Clown Shoes In the Air, Fella The Magistrate Apr 2012 #86
Try www.google.com. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #88
Giggling At You Requires No Effort, Sweet-Heart: Comes Natural To Anyone Reading Your Nonesense The Magistrate Apr 2012 #91
There is also Bing. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #93
You Will Get No Bling For This, Fella: You Grossly Over-Rate Your Value.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #95
Is that .com or .net? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #96
You Will Net Yourself Nothing By This Low Grade Con, Fella The Magistrate Apr 2012 #97
These links must be through a proxy. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #98
Getting The Sense You Cannot Keep It Up Much Longer, Sweetie.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #100
Yahoo.com? Let me know when those links are ready. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #101
Funny, Fella, How Mr. Swift Gave Us That Word To Describe Beings Willfully Ignorant And Aggressive The Magistrate Apr 2012 #103
Alright. I can see that you can provide zero evidence supporting your claim. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #104
Since You Provide Zero Argument Or Knowledge, Fella, As The Kids Would Say, You Are 'Full Of Fail' The Magistrate Apr 2012 #105
If you say so. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #106
By Now, Sweetie, Your Posts Are the Dictionary Definition Of 'Lame' The Magistrate Apr 2012 #108
If you say so. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #109
Keep These Pathetic Posts Coming, Sweetie The Magistrate Apr 2012 #110
You seem to take this all very personally. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #111
Not In The Least, Sweetie: You Present An Amusing Spectacle, You Provide Me Entertainment The Magistrate Apr 2012 #112
I understand. Take care. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #113
You Saying You Understand, Fella, Is Like A Fish Saying It Is Going On A Bicycle Ride Round The Park The Magistrate Apr 2012 #120
Snake is too busy putting on his verboten list sir HangOnKids Apr 2012 #142
Just more condescension and insults. Union Scribe Apr 2012 #214
Of the Highest Quality, Sir, And Richly Deserved The Magistrate Apr 2012 #215
And maybe you missed this part? Ghost in the Machine Apr 2012 #186
The Magistrate is 100% right obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #52
And yet none of his links work. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #56
As The Man Said, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #58
That link is also broken. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #60
Always Nice To See My Opponents Confess Absolute Intellectual Bankruptcy, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #65
That link gives a 404. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #66
Why should anyone link to something that is basic law??? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #63
If it's basic law than it should be incredibly easy to provide evidence of it. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #64
It is criminal and tort law 101 obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #67
Please provide a link then so I may educate myself. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #68
I'd like to throw out here CatWoman Apr 2012 #117
I do not have to provide a think for assertions that I did not make. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #119
When You Can Provide A 'Think' To Back Up Anything You Say, Sweetie The Magistrate Apr 2012 #121
That is still not evidence. Take care and be well. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #122
Your Posts, Fella, Are Conclusive Evidence You Contribute Only Occasions For Laughter To This Forum The Magistrate Apr 2012 #125
You made an emphatic and absolutist assertion in the OP... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #126
I readily admit that it was just a thought I had while fishing and is unprovable. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #127
And It Is Bogus As The Subsequent Verbiage He Provides, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #131
To be honest, I think that the OP is merely playing a game he believes is both clever and subtle. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #136
I Agree, Sir: Merely A Provocateur, and Sort Of A Clouseau At It To Boot The Magistrate Apr 2012 #137
and is neither clever nor subtle. likesmountains 52 Apr 2012 #138
amen...the poster pulled this same shit in another thread noiretextatique Apr 2012 #178
The issue is who initiated the conflict krispos42 Apr 2012 #166
Exactly, Sir: That Has Been Explained At Length To Various People Who Refuse SteadfastlyTo Accept It The Magistrate Apr 2012 #167
We are in harmony krispos42 Apr 2012 #168
I Expected We Were, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #171
No, you don't obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #50
Please post a link to a case or ruling based on "any motion towards you". nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #57
Please post a link to laws showing I'm wrong obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #61
That's not how it works. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #62
Actually, Sir, It Is The Magistrate Apr 2012 #69
Web address is no longer active. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #71
Well, yes, it is when someone is just being obtuse obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #70
You apparently can't even provide one shred of evidence as to your assertation. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #72
Assault appears to be defined thusly: Fumesucker Apr 2012 #73
I believe this will be a point of contention. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #75
That seems pretty obvious about it being a contentious issue.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #80
The police have way more power than we ordinary citizens have. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #82
They are actually held to a higher standard, by statute, in Washington State, than joe citizen. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #128
the force used to defend has to be reasonable in the face of ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #144
Yes and no obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #152
If you block someones path you may be engaging in felonious restraint MattBaggins Apr 2012 #217
I can see where Trayvon's actions were in perceived self defense. dkf Apr 2012 #133
Actually, Ma'am, Under The Law It Does The Magistrate Apr 2012 #139
Well then that could be the standard he has to meet.. dkf Apr 2012 #165
He Cannot Meet It, Ma'am: Not Without Lies The Magistrate Apr 2012 #170
I'm perfectly willing to accept that he is guilty. dkf Apr 2012 #189
How Selfless Of You, Ma'am: Brings Tears To My Eyes, Truly Does.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #195
Oh it's not for your benefit. I know where you stand. dkf Apr 2012 #199
You Have Yet, Ma'am, To Provide A Fact Or View Not Already Familiar To Me, On Any Current Question The Magistrate Apr 2012 #202
LOL. The absurdity continues. Its so obvious that Solomon Apr 2012 #141
SShhhhh. Hush now don't bother her beautiful mind. HangOnKids Apr 2012 #145
You aren;t allowed to kill someone defending themselves from your actions obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #154
I don't think I've read JonLP24 Apr 2012 #155
I know! obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #175
Why wouldn't this apply? dkf Apr 2012 #197
From what I can gather so far MintyFresh Apr 2012 #27
and if I was in the missionary position CatWoman Apr 2012 #30
You would be unlikely to get "pregnact" in any position. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #33
yet I still didn't try to blame the sperm donor CatWoman Apr 2012 #35
Okay? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #36
wow!! you haven't "rec'd" your thread yet CatWoman Apr 2012 #116
Why would I rec my own thread? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #118
Because you Love yourself So much HangOnKids Apr 2012 #146
LOL! Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #40
well, it's good to know that I can go out and blow someone's head off and be found "not guilty" CatWoman Apr 2012 #43
And Of Course, Ma'am, If Seated Astride Someone's Mid-Section The Magistrate Apr 2012 #45
I wonder why he didn't point out that his head went back, and to the left Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #46
ROFL!!! CatWoman Apr 2012 #47
Don't forget punch your own face and scratch your head to bleed. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #174
You have a problem with people here stating that IF such and such happens Zimm will be found guilty. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #51
Please point to where I have a problem with that. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #59
Here's an example. MoonRiver Apr 2012 #78
There are no "ifs" in that OP. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #90
Clearly, the shooter in this picture is defending himself. ieoeja Apr 2012 #89
It's too bad the shootee wasn't legally allowed to defend himself obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #92
Hey, that guy was in the wrong neighborhood Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #94
nope. he's already changed his story. at the bond hearing he said he "scooted away" magical thyme Apr 2012 #107
I imagine the absolutism we use to declaim our prognostications of a verdict LanternWaste Apr 2012 #114
Can't disagree with that. Guesses in a sea of of guesses. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #115
I don't think forensics can reliably tell that. n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #123
and what if GZ shot him in the back? KurtNYC Apr 2012 #124
That's an interesting point MintyFresh Apr 2012 #206
This message was self-deleted by its author savalez Apr 2012 #132
The lesson from your post appears to be: savalez Apr 2012 #134
Not if Zimmerman is found to be initial aggressor under FL law ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #140
Boy, you reaaaaaaaaly want Zimmerman to get off, don't you? jeff47 Apr 2012 #143
So Trayvon Martin has no right to defend himself? LynneSin Apr 2012 #147
Of Course Not, Ma'am: He was Black The Magistrate Apr 2012 #148
+1000 noiretextatique Apr 2012 #150
I Am Indebted, Ma'am, To A Worthy Forum Member For The Basic Insight Here The Magistrate Apr 2012 #151
Snake Alchemist: Forensic Pathologist Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #153
Snake Alchemist, M.E. pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #156
You have the ologist part right. I admitted freely that it was merely a musing I had while Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #157
Don't quit your day job! LAGC Apr 2012 #163
Upwards relative to what.. the ground? Trayvon's body? OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #158
Flaw in that kind of reasoning. Rex Apr 2012 #160
A gun was used. Trial over. Zimmerman guilty. Period. End of story. N/T BanTheGOP Apr 2012 #164
It is legal to use a firearm for self defense in Florida ... spin Apr 2012 #172
stalking, then confronting someone, does not give you the cover of 'self defense' got root Apr 2012 #177
once the wannabee cop got out of his car and engaged Martin noiretextatique Apr 2012 #180
I totally agree with that statement ... spin Apr 2012 #181
True But MintyFresh Apr 2012 #207
That statement should come back to haunt him in his trial ... spin Apr 2012 #210
Yes I can see how it would & MintyFresh Apr 2012 #211
Not that easy. He can still be found guilty, regardless of shot angle. morningfog Apr 2012 #173
thats another reason why the SYG law needs to go - ASAP got root Apr 2012 #176
NOt only that, that's why the 2nd Amendment needs to be severely amended itself. BanTheGOP Apr 2012 #182
This Is Performance Art, Sir, Is It Not? The Magistrate Apr 2012 #183
??? BanTheGOP Apr 2012 #185
The Safe Answer, Sir, But Hardly The Bold, Slashing Answer That Would Live Up To Your Billing.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #187
Then change your signature BanTheGOP Apr 2012 #200
And That, Sir, Strikes Me As A Piece Of Performance Art The Magistrate Apr 2012 #201
Brilliant. Just Brilliant. BanTheGOP Apr 2012 #208
You Understand What Was Said, Sir, Hence The Squid's Ink Borrowed From Mr. Crumb The Magistrate Apr 2012 #209
(facepalm) flvegan Apr 2012 #179
zimmerman targeted Martin via racial profiling noiretextatique Apr 2012 #191
Ignore totality of circumstance at your peril. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #198
You are probably right but here is some food for thought Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #203
If they can't prove that Zimmerman, and not Trayvon, was calling for help, he's going to prison. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2012 #213
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