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98. My sister was too. I wish her "occasion" had the same benign results yours did.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012, 02:35 PM

Apr 2012

My sister was too. I wish her "occasion" had the same benign results yours did.

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If someone followed you and asked "What are you doing around here?" How would you react? [View all] Quixote1818 Apr 2012 OP

"It's not against the law to follow someone" Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #1

Who said it was? nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #2

The Straw Man Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #3

Got you Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #8

It's one of the stale pro-Zimmerman memes Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #5

And I tell how I called the cops on a guy following me obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #57

What were they charged with? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #63

I'm willing to bet one of the variations of the stalking and/or harassment laws on the books in all stevenleser Apr 2012 #77

I would bet your right, if it happened more than once. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #87

If you stalk members of the same race more than once, that probably qualifies. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #88

Haven't thought of it that way. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #89

But yet you and others say it isn't against the law to follow people obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #85

Stalking is against the law. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #86

it's against the law to follow them more than once, for sure. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #144

And that's when you call it stalking and not following. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #172

I would not attack him. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #139

Blond witness? janx Apr 2012 #4

This lady Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #7

Oh, Mary Cutcher. janx Apr 2012 #9

"... running or at the very least walking fast because he thinks a psycho is following him" etherealtruth Apr 2012 #6

I would have said, "Who are you and why are you following me". But, after he told me ladjf Apr 2012 #10

I like the response, "Minding my own god damned business. You?" better Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #13

Me, too. Iggo Apr 2012 #22

Seriously Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #28

No kidding, and as though that makes it ok that the kid got killed. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #38

Well, Here's Mine RobinA Apr 2012 #118

Even if he was polite... Daalalou Apr 2012 #39

I thought of De Becker, too! obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #58

Thanks for mentioning "The Gift of Fear." CBHagman Apr 2012 #84

I'd never do that. If he can't provide me with ID that says Night Watchman I give him nothing. vaberella Apr 2012 #67

ladjf, read vabarella's response. Would you really expect someone to give address and other personal stevenleser Apr 2012 #78

Yes, I read Vabarella's response and understand his points. However, giving out a street number ladjf Apr 2012 #96

No offense, but are you crazy? Giving out address or phone number info to a creepy person following stevenleser Apr 2012 #99

It always strikes me as funny when someone starts a sentence with " No offense but, you are ladjf Apr 2012 #101

I don't think you're grasping the point. vaberella Apr 2012 #107

I must be a terrible communicator if you have surmised from my comments that I am ladjf Apr 2012 #110

The post below and a few of your other posts. vaberella Apr 2012 #111

OK. I see how our tracks of communication diverged. In my former post, when I said that ladjf Apr 2012 #115

zimmerman, a nobody, had a loaded weapon noiretextatique Apr 2012 #128

Your theory about the situation could well be correct. However, if I were put in the situation ladjf Apr 2012 #160

i am guessing you are not 17 years old noiretextatique Apr 2012 #163

I don't get your point. Your previous posts said that Zimmerman was going to kill him anyway. ladjf Apr 2012 #165

me neither noiretextatique Apr 2012 #169

Steven, a slight apology to you as I re-read your post, you didn't say that I was crazy. You ladjf Apr 2012 #103

Actually it is extrememy significant. vaberella Apr 2012 #105

I wasn't implying anything about what Martin said. This thread asked the question "what would ladjf Apr 2012 #112

What evidence shows he approached Martin and said that? nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #11

The girlfriend heard him over the phone. Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #37

That's not what your post says....what I was asking about, really, was why Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #90

Does the law ever recognize throwing the first punch as being justified? dkf Apr 2012 #12

Police Left Me On the Street, Ma'am, After I Not Only Did That, But Said I Had The Magistrate Apr 2012 #15

Goodness you punched someone back in the day huh? dkf Apr 2012 #19

More Than Once, Ma'am, And Fully Grown The Magistrate Apr 2012 #24

Fairly often, though it probably depends on the jurisdiction too Posteritatis Apr 2012 #43

What do you think SYG laws are? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #59

Yes ... its called "Stand Your Ground" ... duh. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #113

i can see that noiretextatique Apr 2012 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #181

Take a look at the Owens case. dkf Apr 2012 #182

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #183

Who Menaced Minor Children With Knives, Ma'am, According To Witnesses, Even From His Own Camp The Magistrate Apr 2012 #191

Honestly, kids have grown up watching shows like Criminal Minds and Law and Order, etc...They have.. Tikki Apr 2012 #14

I would be angry and say it's a free country treestar Apr 2012 #16

I smile, make eye contact, extend my right hand, and introduce myself politely slackmaster Apr 2012 #17

"I'm on my way back to my dad's fiance's house to watch the second half of the All-Star Game". cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #18

You mean your first instinct sylvi Apr 2012 #26

Well when someone asks me what I'm doing,.. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #27

"I'm strange that way." sylvi Apr 2012 #32

Did these types follow you all through the neighbor during the evening? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #60

My sister was too. I wish her "occasion" had the same benign results yours did. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #98

And Rosa Parks should have moved to the back of the bus. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #31

Rosa Parks didn't punch anyone out, either. sylvi Apr 2012 #36

Do you know Martin threw the first punch? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #41

No, I don't know that's what he did at all sylvi Apr 2012 #45

You'll excuse me if I have no idea how in the world Ms. Parks and refusing to sit in back of the bus cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #40

Good for Zimmerman for shooting down the kid who cared about his civil rights. Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #42

Straw man sylvi Apr 2012 #47

The underlying argument is that Zimmerman was justified Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #49

That wasn't the argument at all sylvi Apr 2012 #51

And my point in the OP was that Zimmerman should have dealt with it in a way to Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #54

Stop making shit up. You started the thread with a question of "What would you do if...?" cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #53

I could be wrong but in every other thread I have come in contact with you Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #56

You'd be hard pressed to find a thread where I used words to "defend Zimmerman" at all. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #64

Best post I have read WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #122

The underlying argument is that Zimmerman was justified Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #62

the underlying argument is: blame the victim noiretextatique Apr 2012 #129

situational awareness Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #135

what steps could Martin have taken? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #136

The discussion from which our side discussion stemmed Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #143

this is no generic conversation...it is about this incident noiretextatique Apr 2012 #158

k Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #162

Rosa Park's life was not in immediate danger. nt ladjf Apr 2012 #97

You seriously wouldn't be asking... vaberella Apr 2012 #104

apparently, black people are supposed to be polite noiretextatique Apr 2012 #130

I don't care a person is polite or not, nor do I care if they're black, white, yellow, brown... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #142

zimmerman was not a recognized authority...he wore no uniform noiretextatique Apr 2012 #159

I seriously would not in fact, be asking someone I did not know "Who the fuck are you...?" and I cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #141

It depends on their attitude. With Zimmerman, I would have assumed him to be a murderous thug... saras Apr 2012 #20

I was Zimmermanned by a taxi driver in NYC once. leveymg Apr 2012 #21

and that hfojvt Apr 2012 #33

Never threat of violence but definitely threat of being blackballed because brown EFerrari Apr 2012 #34

Abner and Gladys Kravitz? Not desirable neighbors, at all, but don't tell them that! leveymg Apr 2012 #48

I wouldn't even have to answer that question to a cop Daniel537 Apr 2012 #23

Amen. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #108

If I'm on a public street or sidewalk guitar man Apr 2012 #25

I have to respectfully ask... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #35

If an armed wannabe cop's after you your own attitude isn't likely to be the problem. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #44

That's not the point at all now is it...? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #50

he lived in the neighborhood, just like zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #125

The difference is guitar man Apr 2012 #61

You make me laugh. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #65

I guess I'm too much like my dad guitar man Apr 2012 #69

I get told that too... but my Dad is EXACTLY the guy who'd tell someone to fuck off for asking. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #73

Hi, (former) neighbor! KansDem Apr 2012 #106

Hi KD! cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #120

You know, I think I knew that! KansDem Apr 2012 #155

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #149

lots of unknowns in your OP hfojvt Apr 2012 #29

Many many times as a kid I would go to the 7-11 alone and buy Rex Apr 2012 #30

I've been asked that, walking around my own neighborhood.. HipChick Apr 2012 #46

"Who the fuck are you?" eom TransitJohn Apr 2012 #52

That is the correct answer. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #82

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #150

I worked at a car museum Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #55

If someone followed you and asked "What are you doing around here?" How would you react? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #66

You're a Zimmerman Defender. I can see it in your eyes. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #71

Your an idiot. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #75

LOL. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #76

Okay Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #81

I never knew there were people willing to give up information to someone they don't know. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #109

apparently, if a white person suspects you, you should not only be polite noiretextatique Apr 2012 #131

Or maybe they don't want any trouble Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #132

or maybe they don't think their existence is "suspicious" noiretextatique Apr 2012 #134

I don't think Zimmerman would have shot if they never tangled. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #137

really? because his actions were so reasonable and commendable up until that point noiretextatique Apr 2012 #138

They can't even say he disobeyed a police order Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #140

do you think his actions were reasonable? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #157

I think he went overboard on his neighborhood watch with suspicion. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #164

You're blaming the victim. Fuckin' hell. vaberella Apr 2012 #146

She didn't tangle with him Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #148

How do you know? vaberella Apr 2012 #152

Trayvon's girlfriend on the phone said Trayvon Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #153

AND? he was following him, wasn't he? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #161

It makes absolutely no sense. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #167

it actually does make sense noiretextatique Apr 2012 #168

Nothing is wrong about wanting to know why someone is following you. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #170

This message was self-deleted by its author shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #177

So accoding to you shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #178

Who said that? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #188

That's the tangle?! That's a reasonable question. vaberella Apr 2012 #166

Because it takes two to tangle. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #171

You're a piece of work. vaberella Apr 2012 #176

According to Trayvon's girlfriend. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #195

That, Sir, is One Of the Stupidest Saws Ever Circulated: It Just Takes One, Determined To Have It The Magistrate Apr 2012 #192

Excuse me...macho act that I have a right to keep my personal information personal? vaberella Apr 2012 #145

The girlfriend said Trayvon asked Zimmerman a question first. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #173

Thank you for finally admitting that you believe Trayvon cause his own death. vaberella Apr 2012 #175

it takes some effort to morph the victim of murder noiretextatique Apr 2012 #194

i'm guessing you are not black noiretextatique Apr 2012 #126

So is this an excuse for not being able to handle being under suspicion? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #174

how utterly ridiculous! noiretextatique Apr 2012 #180

Except to meet up and tangle with Zimmerman, Trayvon did nothing. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #187

meetup my ass noiretextatique Apr 2012 #190

Tactful. jp11 Apr 2012 #68

I doubt that genteel civility would prevent your nut-job's intentions... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #117

not sure a scared 17yo would have your presence of mind noiretextatique Apr 2012 #127

Mr. Z will spend the rest of his life Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #70

I'd have my hand on my pistol, I'd pick my words carefully. ileus Apr 2012 #72

would depend very much on specific circumstances ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #74

This actually happened to me about a year ago. I almost forgot until your OP stevenleser Apr 2012 #79

Exactly, Sir, And Zimmerman Had No Legal Authority To Question Or Detain The Magistrate Apr 2012 #121

I'd say, "My name is John... hunter Apr 2012 #80

I've found the familiar quote "If I told you NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #83

I'd probably tell them. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #91

"I'm looking for your mom" Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #92

LOL. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #93

Not applicable Rittermeister Apr 2012 #94

I strongly believe Martin's girlfriend's stroy, rather than the killer's. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #95

Punch them in the face, Oh wait that is terrible advice Taitertots Apr 2012 #100

"Who the hell are you and why are you following me"? annabanana Apr 2012 #102

I know the answer because a rent-a-cop did it to me. KurtNYC Apr 2012 #114

I've seen rent-a-cops tackle a mall shopper who was leaving with his packages. shcrane71 Apr 2012 #184

Problem is, as with GZ, many times the rent a cops know the real cops KurtNYC Apr 2012 #189

With that being the case, we've got major problems. shcrane71 Apr 2012 #197

When that approximate scenario happened to my sister in '87, she responded precisely LanternWaste Apr 2012 #116

Just chilling (nt) MichaelMcGuire Apr 2012 #119

i used to get this all the time...in elevators in buildings where i worked noiretextatique Apr 2012 #123

SHOOT HIM!!!!!!!!!! upi402 Apr 2012 #133

You talkin' to me? You talkin' to ME!!? Kablooie Apr 2012 #147

The FACT that the person is NOT IDing themselves FIRST means they are NOT law enforcement in that uponit7771 Apr 2012 #151

i would ask them . . . datasuspect Apr 2012 #154

*sarcastically* "Can I help you with something"? TrogL Apr 2012 #156

I was asked that question once Shankapotomus Apr 2012 #179

My response: "Minding my own business. How about you?" Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #185

I would scream as loud as possible and run like hell... cynatnite Apr 2012 #186

"Leave me alone.", would be the first words out of my mouth MrScorpio Apr 2012 #193

I would say SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #196