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21. Mostly married people with children vote the politicians in that are also married and
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:19 PM
Apr 2012

have children, so they make the rules to favor married people with children. That's just the way it is there is nothing you can do about it.

hey, people with no kids have tons more money to spend right? like gays? oh, wait nt msongs Apr 2012 #1
I'm single and got a refund bluestateguy Apr 2012 #2
I have no children and I got a refund. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #3
I had to pay ove a thousand this year mindwalker_i Apr 2012 #4
our kids are all grown up newspeak Apr 2012 #76
If you were living off "a little above minimum wage" former9thward Apr 2012 #121
well, hubby makes under 15 an hour and we must pay for health insurance newspeak Apr 2012 #224
Yes that is a nasty penalty. former9thward Apr 2012 #227
Must have taken too much medicine tonight - edgineered Apr 2012 #5
I have two kids age six and three...we wrote a check alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #6
Just wait until those kids reach college age Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #33
Tell me about it.... truebrit71 Apr 2012 #226
i do not pay taxes with you. dionysus Apr 2012 #7
:) pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #51
Lol XanaDUer Apr 2012 #164
Me, me, me. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #8
so you have no problem hfojvt Apr 2012 #24
Perhaps I realize those kids nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #25
yeah, the great part about that is hfojvt Apr 2012 #30
So you agree with the op nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #36
The hardest part is affording housing as a single person. dkf Apr 2012 #90
Here is a huge clue nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #95
single people can still get roommates. noamnety Apr 2012 #176
So you should get your own house, while others must room up joeglow3 Apr 2012 #222
Well they are MARRIED. You want them to be able to live separately? dkf Apr 2012 #223
So who is going to be paying your Social Security? (nt) SATIRical Apr 2012 #78
If you didn't have to pay for other people you could have saved it. dkf Apr 2012 #89
Yep, but that is not how the system works. SATIRical Apr 2012 #93
ah, but the math says hfojvt Apr 2012 #113
Two things wrong with your math SATIRical Apr 2012 #114
those are not the numbers I came up with hfojvt Apr 2012 #117
No, the point is SATIRical Apr 2012 #119
I will be receiving a benefit hfojvt Apr 2012 #122
lol unapatriciated Apr 2012 #171
current world population above 7 billion. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #139
TY stuntcat Apr 2012 #161
+1 bahrbearian Apr 2012 #183
And I assume you're headed over to Guinea-Bissou right now, where the so-called "population problem" Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #200
Can the snark. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #205
So if no Americans have babies, the population issue in Zimbabwe is solved? Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #208
Please post accepted research and links to back up your remarks. Thanks. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #213
Why don't you tell me which data point you think needs Additional verification. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #214
What irritates me is that you are snarking at me and waving data BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #215
Okay, well maybe you missed the part about how we've had this argument (DU, not you and me) several Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #216
I think some of my links, or one, anyway BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #228
I'm sure they'll engage you on it in an earnest fashion, as is their wont. Although maybe via text. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #229
and a marked propensity for vituperation and snark. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #232
It's that generation gap, again Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #233
OK, then BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #234
Gen x is definitely a demographic divot between boomers & millenials Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #235
These kids will someday pay into the Social Security that you'll collect LiberalEsto Apr 2012 #68
that's assuming I live long enough to collect anything hfojvt Apr 2012 #111
What return rate do you get on your investments? SATIRical Apr 2012 #115
in your example, the single person is better off Bill McBlueState Apr 2012 #193
thank you hfojvt Apr 2012 #196
I'm married with one (and soon to be two) seeviewonder Apr 2012 #9
We sent off $3,116.00 SoCalDem Apr 2012 #10
Sounds like you would have been a crappy parent anyways! What.... Logical Apr 2012 #11
This is a rude and mean post. Crappy PARENTS are the ones who don't do society a favour. Darth_Kitten Apr 2012 #65
+1 nashville_brook Apr 2012 #101
Most definitely! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #206
If that's not a personal attack, I don't know what is. ceile Apr 2012 #138
did you read the OP... be consistent fascisthunter Apr 2012 #145
Single, no kids here. Got a refund because of mortgage interest and property taxes CakeGrrl Apr 2012 #12
I am single and retired and I wrote a check for over $15000 for federal tax doc03 Apr 2012 #13
single, retired, got a nice refund shanti Apr 2012 #177
Hmmm? Grandma raised 3 kids last year, with daycare, graduation, etc...., so we LIVE on the refund. txwhitedove Apr 2012 #14
Aww.. Bless your heart.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #15
I can't bring myself to be outraged that having dependents results in deductions fishwax Apr 2012 #16
God, really. This whole thread is absurd. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #83
Single. No kids of my own, but did put one niece and one nephew through college. WillowTree Apr 2012 #17
Plenty of childfree people get refunds and don't "have" to spend it on kids -- what's your point? n gateley Apr 2012 #18
the point is not about the refund, it is about the tax bill hfojvt Apr 2012 #41
There is no special deduction for children. And where are you getting those numbers? ieoeja Apr 2012 #79
that's right the exemption newspeak Apr 2012 #84
Just as exemptions are per person, one could argue that the bracket range should be multipled too. ieoeja Apr 2012 #118
Inventing? hfojvt Apr 2012 #133
Your numbers differ from what I see published. ieoeja Apr 2012 #140
you are adding that wrong hfojvt Apr 2012 #178
Its more than that Sgent Apr 2012 #109
there is an accursed tax credit of $1,000 per child hfojvt Apr 2012 #132
"Does that seem like a fair tax system to you..?" Chan790 Apr 2012 #186
If sending a relatively small check to Uncle Sam is the price... Rochester Apr 2012 #19
Oh, goodie. Yet another parent-and-children-bashing liberalhistorian Apr 2012 #20
+1. TheWraith Apr 2012 #39
I hear ya. I also have no problem liberalhistorian Apr 2012 #92
Mostly married people with children vote the politicians in that are also married and doc03 Apr 2012 #21
Fellow renting folks, how much did you love writing the check out to the IRS after hearing all the Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #22
I've owned 3 homes hfojvt Apr 2012 #34
Your problem is you need a better accountant, not others with children. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2012 #123
I had $9500 of my income exempt from taxes. LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #23
You avoid restaurants? pipoman Apr 2012 #61
lots of negativity in the replies hfojvt Apr 2012 #26
+1 REP Apr 2012 #27
Pockets being picked? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #37
the record is clear hfojvt Apr 2012 #43
I'm not real sure what you are complaining about here, you want the mortgage deduction gone snooper2 Apr 2012 #81
Did you read the link? hfojvt Apr 2012 #108
I think you should read this, then some of the comments snooper2 Apr 2012 #112
+1. That's how it is in America. Everyone is concerned the next person SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #48
Those children will be subsidizing your retirement. nt laundry_queen Apr 2012 #42
as the poster subsidized the retirements of others. so? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #45
That's exactly the point. I'm sorry you missed it. nt laundry_queen Apr 2012 #77
'Pockets are being picked'? LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #58
I would argue that my share of the tax burden hfojvt Apr 2012 #105
well said NewJeffCT Apr 2012 #168
You reap what you sow n/t n2doc Apr 2012 #70
Why should I pay for cancer research? I don't have cancer 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #87
it's not about what I am paying for hfojvt Apr 2012 #116
When I was single and childless, I noticed all of this. But remembered I was a child once, and my freshwest Apr 2012 #181
So true bahrbearian Apr 2012 #184
What a fucked up post rufus dog Apr 2012 #28
Someone is off the chain! Rex Apr 2012 #29
"They have value, we don't." Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #31
Those kids will be funding my Social Security. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #32
Are you going to start a thread abelenkpe Apr 2012 #35
There are worse things to be upset about... jmowreader Apr 2012 #38
You sound bitter tkmorris Apr 2012 #40
another thread where the 99% fight with each other over crumbs. win for the 1%. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #44
Exactly! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #49
Exactly LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #59
+1000 nt Javaman Apr 2012 #73
Win! JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #82
Yes, in that respect, the 1% are morally superior. They stick together and we shred each other. freshwest Apr 2012 #180
Kids are expensive, I don't care about that but I am against the homeowners credit TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #46
So you support globalism and don't fancy paying your taxes Union Scribe Apr 2012 #47
HA! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #50
Thread winner alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #54
No children, and no resentment, here. salin Apr 2012 #52
One some level I resent it schlagehundenancee Apr 2012 #53
Jeez Louise, just have a baby, then. Problem solved. Brickbat Apr 2012 #55
I don't have children, and I disagree on this LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #56
Another hit-and-run shit-stir compliments of The RB TexLa Show! nt Codeine Apr 2012 #57
didn't get a refund but I didn't make enough to pay either. hobbit709 Apr 2012 #60
Childless and retired here, I get pissed that I Autumn Apr 2012 #62
I have one child Maine-ah Apr 2012 #63
A child.. sendero Apr 2012 #64
I never pay the Feds... a la izquierda Apr 2012 #66
KIds, no kids, it doesn't matter. Gloating and whining are neither one attractive or effective. Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #67
^^^^ Thread win. n/t gkhouston Apr 2012 #69
Got a refund. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #71
Resentful much? n/t cynatnite Apr 2012 #72
Stupid breeders. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #74
I have no kids and I got a refund... Javaman Apr 2012 #75
I raised my three children, they are no longer deductible, I didn't write any checks Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #80
I can only say this... "bless your little heart..." LanternWaste Apr 2012 #85
Kinda reminds me of people without a car complaining about paying taxes to build roads 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #86
No children and we pay a huge amt of taxes Mojorabbit Apr 2012 #88
Theoretically, a progressive tax system is supposed to take into account ability to pay taxes. PA Democrat Apr 2012 #91
Think of us gayfolk HillWilliam Apr 2012 #94
Sounds like you need to adjust your withholding... jayfish Apr 2012 #96
refunds are from overwithholding or overpayment ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #97
Well Sir... Xyzse Apr 2012 #98
Maybe you should save your animosity for corporations who don't pay taxes. n/t cynatnite Apr 2012 #99
Taxes is the price we pay for civilisation Ron Obvious Apr 2012 #100
Hear, Hear!!!! nt bluestate10 Apr 2012 #231
No children here now, they are adults. Silver Swan Apr 2012 #102
You have received some interesting responses WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #103
Children are still a net loss even with tax-benefits 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #107
I think that while true, that's a different issue WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #126
Where did my children go? hughee99 Apr 2012 #104
Ugh, "Childfree" = kid-hater. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #106
Since this is DU WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #127
Sorry, but I have to disagree. My youngest son and his wife decided before they married Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #128
Sorry, I was generalizing. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #129
I know what you mean. I've met them, too. Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #130
I know lots of "childfree" people with the same attitude. nt MADem Apr 2012 #188
Why would some parents think "child-free" people would make the effort to hate their darling angels? Darth_Kitten Apr 2012 #210
Try doing the math before you troll Proud Public Servant Apr 2012 #110
You pay taxes for one person. Single parent paying taxes for two gets twice your deduction. ieoeja Apr 2012 #120
i'd rather people with children get it than the generals. spanone Apr 2012 #124
They also have to support the children! Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #125
That is their lifestyle choice RB TexLa Apr 2012 #131
So? Your point? Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #147
It's no wonder that every time I come here I see less and less posts SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #134
no shit! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #135
Which is why I would never, ever recommend DU to anyone who was not a raving lib/prog/leftist. ieoeja Apr 2012 #141
yuh... oh, poor poor moderates fascisthunter Apr 2012 #143
the centrists are just like us, they just want fewer good things and more bad things than we do CreekDog Apr 2012 #167
You stirred up a bunch of shit and then quickly vanished Marrah_G Apr 2012 #136
I said what I wanted to say. RB TexLa Apr 2012 #144
with a Republican post CreekDog Apr 2012 #156
+1 NewJeffCT Apr 2012 #166
Are you kidding? They expect people to have reverence in their voice anytime the word RB TexLa Apr 2012 #174
that's not what makes it a Republican post --it's because you want something and it's only about you CreekDog Apr 2012 #175
Yes, yes you did Marrah_G Apr 2012 #173
I am so with you. Specially since nearly all current problems at their core BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #137
(please someone consider this list) stuntcat Apr 2012 #162
We have value. In this case, govt doesn't recognize it. Zax2me Apr 2012 #142
I have no kids and got a refund... probably buying another gun with it. OneTenthofOnePercent Apr 2012 #146
Although you haven't responded to one single response, I suppose I should ask: ithinkmyliverhurts Apr 2012 #148
those children are going to be paying for your retirement benefits, like Medicare and SS CreekDog Apr 2012 #149
No, and I think this is about as silly as the 53%er nonsense Hippo_Tron Apr 2012 #150
from age 12-32 single and no kids, i got a refund. i also put the most in thru out year seabeyond Apr 2012 #151
The tax code is chuck full of preferential treatments. NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #152
Wanna live by yourself? fascisthunter Apr 2012 #153
Then why do the politicians never say working Americans? It's always working families. RB TexLa Apr 2012 #155
you just scapegoated children for your lack of tax refund --how lame CreekDog Apr 2012 #158
It's not that I mind paying. It's just we have to pay for their lifestyle choice. RB TexLa Apr 2012 #159
then you are opting out of Social Security and Medicare, correct? CreekDog Apr 2012 #160
Just how much have your taxes gone up.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #182
Divide and conquer, baby. Iggo Apr 2012 #154
+1 CreekDog Apr 2012 #157
Whether you get a refund depends on your deductions. But singles pay the HIGHEST rate. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #163
same poo, different day CreekDog Apr 2012 #165
i do not poo with you. dionysus Apr 2012 #169
My children are grown and we pay a fair amount in taxes. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #170
I don't care as long as people keep their kids of my lawn nt Zorra Apr 2012 #172
Of all the things in our tax code, THIS is what you choose this to bitch about? progressoid Apr 2012 #179
I got a refund ibegurpard Apr 2012 #185
You sound jealous or envious and resentful LaurenG Apr 2012 #187
I made the choice to not have children, no one else has a say in that. RB TexLa Apr 2012 #189
I don't think anyone else wants a say in your private decisions LaurenG Apr 2012 #190
I do have extra withholding. All I'm saying is there is no reason to give them RB TexLa Apr 2012 #191
That is not a very progressive opinion LaurenG Apr 2012 #195
Oh, right. Darth_Kitten Apr 2012 #211
Hahaha oh dear LaurenG Apr 2012 #212
I'm not the one regretting MY choices.... Darth_Kitten Apr 2012 #218
I'm not complaining either way. I understand why people would choose to remain childless LaurenG Apr 2012 #219
I don't have kids and will never have kids but I pay taxes Rex Apr 2012 #192
I loved it. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #194
I have no problem with dependent deductions and child tax credits-with limitations liberaltrucker Apr 2012 #197
What's that? Can't hear ya over the sound of all this DANCING MONEY! Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #198
Not unhappy. Just don't think we should have to pay for their lifestyle choice RB TexLa Apr 2012 #201
Well... ya do! Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #202
It's not like it is a progressive tax, the people who struggle on the same salaries as the RB TexLa Apr 2012 #203
Turn down the dancing money, honey Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #209
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #207
There's at least one baby in your household. n/t rucky Apr 2012 #199
Adjust your withholding amount and deal with it. janx Apr 2012 #204
So it's people with children's fault... BiggJawn Apr 2012 #217
I made the decision not to father children very early in my life. MineralMan Apr 2012 #220
I have 3 kids and gave the IRS $10,000 joeglow3 Apr 2012 #221
I have one "child" and had to pay over three grand... truebrit71 Apr 2012 #225
I am childless. I have done well financially. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #230
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