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Showing Original Post only (View all)5 Reasons to Stop Talking Sh*t About People From the South and Midwest [View all]
1. It's dehumanizing. Think about what the terms "flyover country" and "flyover people" mean. They say, essentially, that people on the East and West Coasts are worth engaging with -- and that people in the Midwest and South are not. They say that people in the Midwest and South are time-consuming annoyances, to be flown past on your way to the important people.
This is dehumanizing. And progressives should not be dehumanizing people. Nobody should be dehumanizing people -- and progressives especially are supposed to be fighting for the dignity, equality, and humanity of everyone. It is hypocritical for us to claim to be doing that, while treating hundreds of millions of people as placeholders.
2. It's classist. One of the distinguishing features of big progressive coastal cities is that they're often expensive. If someone lives in Columbus or Memphis instead of San Francisco or New York, there's a reasonable chance that they're doing it because that's where they can afford to buy a house, put their kids through college, work for a small business or a non-profit, start a small business or a non-profit, even simply pay rent. Living in San Francisco is becoming increasingly impossible for anyone who isn't a tech millionaire.
So dismissing people from the Midwest and South, to a great extent, means dismissing people who aren't rolling in dough. Progressives should really not be doing that. Again -- nobody should be doing that, but it's especially hypocritical when progressives do it.
And of course, the assumption that every decent interesting person would want to live in the big coastal cities if only they could -- that's classist in its own way. Some people don't like crowds, prefer a slower pace, care more about access to wilderness than access to foofy restaurants. I don't happen to be one of them myself. Foofy restaurants mean a lot to me. But we need to recognize that a taste for foofy restaurants is not the marker of decency, compassion, or even progressive politics.
This is dehumanizing. And progressives should not be dehumanizing people. Nobody should be dehumanizing people -- and progressives especially are supposed to be fighting for the dignity, equality, and humanity of everyone. It is hypocritical for us to claim to be doing that, while treating hundreds of millions of people as placeholders.
2. It's classist. One of the distinguishing features of big progressive coastal cities is that they're often expensive. If someone lives in Columbus or Memphis instead of San Francisco or New York, there's a reasonable chance that they're doing it because that's where they can afford to buy a house, put their kids through college, work for a small business or a non-profit, start a small business or a non-profit, even simply pay rent. Living in San Francisco is becoming increasingly impossible for anyone who isn't a tech millionaire.
So dismissing people from the Midwest and South, to a great extent, means dismissing people who aren't rolling in dough. Progressives should really not be doing that. Again -- nobody should be doing that, but it's especially hypocritical when progressives do it.
And of course, the assumption that every decent interesting person would want to live in the big coastal cities if only they could -- that's classist in its own way. Some people don't like crowds, prefer a slower pace, care more about access to wilderness than access to foofy restaurants. I don't happen to be one of them myself. Foofy restaurants mean a lot to me. But we need to recognize that a taste for foofy restaurants is not the marker of decency, compassion, or even progressive politics.
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5 Reasons to Stop Talking Sh*t About People From the South and Midwest [View all]
YoungDemCA
Oct 2014
OP
I visit Minnesota every summer. Love it there. Relaxing by a lake is the best rest ever. nt
Logical
Oct 2014
#8
I was raised and live in The South. It's a shit hole of ignorance and tea-baggerism, too.
Hissyspit
Oct 2014
#7
They vote their principles! Unfortunately, scoundrels know how to use those to control and direct.
Hortensis
Oct 2014
#324
I'm guessing you're talking strictly about state government (and Federal Senators)
kentauros
Oct 2014
#282
Ok. Terre Haute, through which flows the mighty Wabash, home of St. Mary's, ISU and RHIT, a...
xocet
Oct 2014
#69
What's cool about it is how they spliced in old clips from classics to fit....
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2014
#237
A state that routinely elects Democratic Governors is something to be proud of. nt
hack89
Oct 2014
#305
NJ Teen suspended for flag... but they fly the flag over the South Carolina Capitol ...
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#37
Uh... why don't we pretend to forget about "state boundaries" for a second...
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#136
You asked, "Where are most of the racists grouped in the United States?"
theHandpuppet
Oct 2014
#148
You posted a map of the Number of Groups.. not the number of actual PEOPLE in the those GROUPS
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#154
Good point. The SPLC's counts are not good statistical indicators of actual participation.
Hortensis
Oct 2014
#325
"makes me wonder if there are other things about the South you don't like"....
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#162
"none of us" like these people, but Texans do! Everyone on my list was elected by Texans
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#171
Something I don't like about the South is the fact that every Southern State is among the 29
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#170
But your defense of the South Carolina confederate flag put it all on her
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Oct 2014
#271
Northern California.. the bastion of Confederate Flag waivers... yeah, ok
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#42
I have outside Chicago more than once in the last year alone and on truck bumpers too but I still feel safe going around because it is
lunasun
Oct 2014
#46
I think you've got a good point. And some of those people displaying those things
raccoon
Oct 2014
#134
Not really.. I am just letting DUers try so hard to prove their flag sightings...
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#320
Good ol' boys from anywhere have the confederate flag in the back window of their pickem up truck
liberal N proud
Oct 2014
#173
Wow you need to get out more then. I'm from the South and make an annual trip to Indiana.
Hosnon
Oct 2014
#239
There's a pick-up truck being driven on I-84 from the Pa stateline to Ulster County flying one
In_The_Wind
Oct 2014
#281
I will give you I have never seen a confederate flag flown here in Western NY
Liberalynn
Oct 2014
#283
Of course there is racism in the East and West Coasts.... but we ELECT DEMOCRATS!
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#133
Most people live on the coasts, or most live in patchs of high density metro areas
HereSince1628
Oct 2014
#149
I lived in a Southern state in my teens. It was a horrible experience. Just traumatic.
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#193
See my post #93. You probably aren't a typical Southerner. You are probably one of the
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#94
Yes, ALW, it is very easy to be ensconced in a liberal enclave and to rail against the
japple
Oct 2014
#24
I am sure there are members of fundamental religious groups and hate groups where you
japple
Oct 2014
#25
AND you are seriously mistaken if you think those gun-nuts are limited to the South. Where have
japple
Oct 2014
#80
Good thing there are no crazy gun nuts in Connecticut or Colorado .. oh wait. nt
hack89
Oct 2014
#312
I live in Florida and the large amout of Dumb Asses here are about to elect ...
BlueJazz
Oct 2014
#16
All the evidence about Scott and they still flock to him. Idiocracy is alive and well! n/t
RKP5637
Oct 2014
#84
I think a lot of those cognitive ones do move to the more enlightened areas.
Lucky Luciano
Oct 2014
#60
If I lived in Kentucky, I'd have to vote for a candidate who supports coal and guns
RufusTFirefly
Oct 2014
#40
It would be wonderful if humans would stop dehumanizing their fellow humans
MerryBlooms
Oct 2014
#45
Is it just limited to talking? Because we know of strategies that really don't include talking.
Tikki
Oct 2014
#47
sure, even the Democrats in California are idiots, look at how they voted for Arnold
JI7
Oct 2014
#122
The only dismissals are against those that dismiss us, and it doesn't matter where they are
still_one
Oct 2014
#107
I totally agree... just look how defensive DU er's about where they live.
TerrapinFlyer
Oct 2014
#131
I'm like 5th generation South and have never encountered that version of Southern culture.
Hosnon
Oct 2014
#240
I wrote it that way because those are the normal generalizations that people use.
kentauros
Oct 2014
#152
Why would any one who lives on the coasts give a crap what anyone in the midwest has to say about
Youdontwantthetruth
Oct 2014
#327
When you've experienced this kind of stereotyping throughout your life...
theHandpuppet
Oct 2014
#186
You can whine all you want about the south and Midwest being "picked on", but
world wide wally
Oct 2014
#200
Divide and conquer. So right. The old tactic, works every time. GOP wins.
appalachiablue
Oct 2014
#279
I see more than a few posters say that the residents of their state are stupid or dumb and should
CBGLuthier
Oct 2014
#261
The reason we can't have nice things like universal healthcare is because of the South
mb999
Oct 2014
#300
When the regions in question start supporting themselves and not have to rely on the support of the
Youdontwantthetruth
Oct 2014
#326