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CreekDog

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60. Wait a minute, you are using reason to say it wasn't Martin screaming, and then...

Reply to dkf (Reply #39)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 11:18 PM

Apr 2012

arguing against using reason to suggest that it might be Martin.

your bias is showing.

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Emptywheel: Zimmerman affidavit is shit. [View all] RandySF Apr 2012 OP

They're probably looking for a plea bargain down to manslaughter Warpy Apr 2012 #1

I'll wait and see what happens at the trial. FarPoint Apr 2012 #2

She did a great job in front of cameras. RandySF Apr 2012 #3

It's not her first. And Wheeler is totally full of shit. TheWraith Apr 2012 #27

The Veteran Prosecutor... FarPoint Apr 2012 #29

The article wasn't written by Marcy Wheeler but by bmaz... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #32

In Trayvon Martin case, murder charge surprises some legal analysts EFerrari Apr 2012 #40

They must be getting the article and the person in question Rex Apr 2012 #49

Empty is the right word for this. elleng Apr 2012 #4

If it is deficient, then either: Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #5

not the State's Attorney (who originally buried the whole thing) waddirum Apr 2012 #17

True, she's not with the State Attorney's office - she was appointed by Gov Rick Scott - Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #22

Actually, she is a State Attorney pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #28

Wait - stop right there - the State Attorney is hedgehog Apr 2012 #37

Of course not, but does that make any difference? nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #55

If the state attorney is elected, then there is the motive for setting Zimmerman loose hedgehog Apr 2012 #69

Why not? Gov Rick Scott is a criminal, AND a Repuke, and Repukes ADORE Zimmerman Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #72

If you had taken the time to read the affidavit ... GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #51

I read the opinion, not the affidavit itself. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #54

I do not believe that she would have filed it without supporting evidence. tabatha Apr 2012 #6

That's usually the way it works, yes. n/t janx Apr 2012 #46

What complete and utter bullshit this post is. Solomon Apr 2012 #7

What you said is exactly what has stood out to me too. I don't get why this is so hard Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #59

The Corey affidavit is very thin on supporting facts Vattel Apr 2012 #8

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Your points have no substantiation whatsoever. tabatha Apr 2012 #11

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It was raining that night - the moisture need not have come from the grass but from the sky. tabatha Apr 2012 #15

"I'm not going to waste my time digging it out for you." pacalo Apr 2012 #16

The police bungled all kinds of things including missing tons of witnesses and coaching witnesses Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #20

How do you know the cries were coming from Martin and not Zimmerman? dkf Apr 2012 #30

Zimmerman's been ruled out Daalalou Apr 2012 #36

Maybe the technology sucks and would rule out Martin too. dkf Apr 2012 #39

The technology has been tested to where they can put a probability on its accuracy Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #41

Test Martin and Zimmerman and its apples to apples. dkf Apr 2012 #61

Of course, if they have Martin's voice avalable. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #65

Wait a minute, you are using reason to say it wasn't Martin screaming, and then... CreekDog Apr 2012 #60

I haven't ruled out either of them. dkf Apr 2012 #62

zimmerman police report brush Apr 2012 #24

#15 Go Vols Apr 2012 #53

DUer Hepburn must have seen what bmaz @ emptywheel saw... pacalo Apr 2012 #10

Isn't that a bit risky on the prosecutors part? BootinUp Apr 2012 #12

It sure seems that way, in a perfect system in which the "good guys" have the best intentions. pacalo Apr 2012 #14

What Corey is saying is Zimmerman had already determined Martin to be guilty Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #18

yea shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #23

Pro-Zimmerman arguments are nonsense Daalalou Apr 2012 #19

Good post and that poster has been banned. uppityperson Apr 2012 #21

Welcome to DU MrScorpio Apr 2012 #25

True, but Emptywheel isn't making a pro-Zimmerman case. gkhouston Apr 2012 #26

Her legal expert got obliterated in the comments by practicing Florida attorneys. msanthrope Apr 2012 #35

Like this one (#35): janx Apr 2012 #50

Thanks for posting this! Great info! nt Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #64

Ah. Well, I'm glad to know the prosecution isn't that disorganized. gkhouston Apr 2012 #56

Regarding this point... In the police video, he looks like a pretty buff guy dkf Apr 2012 #33

Dissent ken_phd Apr 2012 #42

What Cory is suggesting in the affidavit is that Zimmerman had decided Martin was a criminal Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #63

Thank you for joining... OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #48

Does the affidavit have to detail all the evidence? DCBob Apr 2012 #31

No. Here: janx Apr 2012 #43

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This affidavit says specifically that there is more to come Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #57

Exactly what I thought. DCBob Apr 2012 #66

Wheeler's 'legal expert' got obliterated in the comments by people who actually practice law msanthrope Apr 2012 #34

I suspect the prosecutor didn't want to tip her hand. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #38

People are expecting the prosecutor to list all of the evidence in the affidavit. janx Apr 2012 #44

silly H2O Man Apr 2012 #47

I haven't read many affidavits ... GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #52

They don't have to give all the evedence, only enough for Probable Cause Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #58

The Fine Points Of Law And Medicine Should Usually Be Left To Doctors And Lawyers DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #67

I "Love" All These New Members Pimping George Zimmerman DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #68

Even the National Review is acknowledging probable cause NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #70

Self-defense is an affirmative defense to be pled by the Defendant. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #71