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17. That's not the administrations position on other bills.

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:10 PM

Apr 2012

"That stance departs from the White House’s prominent “we can’t wait” campaign: Since last fall, Mr. Obama has signed executive orders on a variety of issues, arguing that “we can’t wait” for legislation that Republicans in Congress refuse to let pass."

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Obama Won’t Sign Executive Order Banning Gay Discrimination by Employers with Federal Contracts [View all] Better Believe It Apr 2012 OP

He doesn't want to go out on this particular limb in an election year el_bryanto Apr 2012 #1

Especially with such broad public support for such action! Better Believe It Apr 2012 #3

You say that like it's a bad thing... Fumesucker Apr 2012 #2

Can anyone explain to me why? EOTE Apr 2012 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Apr 2012 #5

I can give you the reason why--It would kill ENDA, and Barney Frank still has a shot msanthrope Apr 2012 #6

Then why doesn't the Admin. just say so? rusty fender Apr 2012 #7

Because they don't expect bashers to care about facts uponit7771 Apr 2012 #8

um...Carney's press release posted in the prior thread on this matter discusses this. msanthrope Apr 2012 #15

Do you happen to have a link? NT EOTE Apr 2012 #25

Because republicans will go apeshit distorting the EO. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #76

ANd allowing LBGT persons to be discriminated against is a better choice? n/t FreeState Apr 2012 #82

I think that's more of an excuse for inaction, not a valid reason. The ENDA is dead for now. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #14

I'm not counting out Barney Frank just yet. When he says he can't get ENDA passed, msanthrope Apr 2012 #18

You can count Frank out because he is retiring from Congress. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #22

I have more faith in Barney Frank then that. msanthrope Apr 2012 #24

I find your arguments utterly specious ruggerson Apr 2012 #39

I'm not into faith-based politics ... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #40

I did not say I have no faith in Barney. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #58

Explain how an EO would keep you from getting ENDA out of judiciary? joshcryer Apr 2012 #77

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #12

Fuck Ron Paul. Hope you enjoyed your stay. nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #19

Sorry to hear that, but I'm still voting for him! BlueDemKev Apr 2012 #9

If ENDA is still in play, President Obama MineralMan Apr 2012 #10

DADT was significant BUT... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #29

ENDA would affect even more, though. MineralMan Apr 2012 #31

DADT was repealed in December 2010, when Democrats still controlled the House... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #43

Signing statement would only apply EC Apr 2012 #11

It's not a signing statement. It's an Executive Order that remains in force beyond his term. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #16

No surprise here with the PENDING LEGISLATION... SunsetDreams Apr 2012 #13

That's not the administrations position on other bills. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #17

Name the pending bills you claim were superseded by EOs? Barney Frank's bill is still msanthrope Apr 2012 #20

You propose that President Obama sit on his thumbs and do nothing, waiting on a bill that won't pass Better Believe It Apr 2012 #27

I want him to listen to Barney Frank. When Barney Frank says he can't ENDA passed msanthrope Apr 2012 #28

From your quote: "legislation that Republicans in Congress refuse to let pass" SunsetDreams Apr 2012 #21

Its been pending for 20 years n/t FreeState Apr 2012 #83

Not the bill in it's entirety, SunsetDreams Apr 2012 #86

It is interesting seeing the folks who try to excuse this.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #23

Agreed. n/t markpkessinger Apr 2012 #30

I'm more surprised people don't see the parallel of this situation to the DADT situation. vaberella Apr 2012 #34

And which magic wand gets it by the House? n/t markpkessinger Apr 2012 #36

Did I not mention that it won't get past this congress? vaberella Apr 2012 #44

I see the parallel and it is not a good one. DADT could have been passed in January of 2009. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #60

Obama didn't even want it originally voted on during the lame duck session ruggerson Apr 2012 #46

I'm tired of this. vaberella Apr 2012 #50

You're right to the extent that he indeed deserves credit ruggerson Apr 2012 #55

Yes, it is. When it's not your civil rights being put on hold, I guess it's not a big deal. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #45

Thank you, Sabrina -- couldn't have said it better! n/t markpkessinger Apr 2012 #57

Isn't President Obama a strong supporter of ENDA? MineralMan Apr 2012 #26

Nope he still is. vaberella Apr 2012 #32

He could have done both with DADT. But they held it up in order to use to explain sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #48

It's irrelevant if they were popular with the public. vaberella Apr 2012 #51

I don't understand the point you are making. If something is okay with the public then why sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #59

Well, from the look of it, we're going to need to elect a MineralMan Apr 2012 #56

An Obama-bashing article so nice, Better Believe It had to post it twice. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #33

So we're back to "it's better than you'd get from a Republican" ... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #35

Actually that's "Way fucking better than from a Republican," Mark. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #38

BB...Just remember the steps to DADT reform. vaberella Apr 2012 #37

I agree with you on that. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #41

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Apr 2012 #54

HERE IS WHAT OBAMA HIMSELF SAID TWO YEARS AGO ruggerson Apr 2012 #42

I disagree. He did the same with DADT and got a repeal. vaberella Apr 2012 #47

ENDA has been stalled for twenty years ruggerson Apr 2012 #49

I agree with you. But I can see Republicans using it as a bad side. vaberella Apr 2012 #53

It's times like this I see why people find appeal with dictators. joshcryer Apr 2012 #72

DADT was held up in order to use it to get the Bush Tax Cuts passed. It was a cynical sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #61

That doesn't prove he thinks THIS can be done administratively! treestar Apr 2012 #91

I've been more than fair with Obama over the course of his first four years ruggerson Apr 2012 #92

He wouldn't sign an EO about DADT either... SidDithers Apr 2012 #52

How did it work out, it caused untold numbers of Gays in the military to suffer the loss of sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #64

Sid this post is exceptionally disingenuous even for BBI treestar Apr 2012 #88

so much 'fierce advocating', I can't hardly stand it. KG Apr 2012 #62

Obama supported administrative action against anti-gay discrimination before he was against it. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #63

among the defenders of this delay I see not one gay person.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #65

Post #33. joshcryer Apr 2012 #66

That's not a good excuse because pools show huge public support for workplace protection. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #68

I made no excuse. I explained why. I disagree with it. joshcryer Apr 2012 #70

OK Good. I misunderstood your post. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #71

I didn't defend the delay. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #73

That is true. But we know what the code language is really about. joshcryer Apr 2012 #75

"code language"? What? Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #78

Better off then. joshcryer Apr 2012 #79

You can say that again. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #69

"Same thing with DADT and the same people demanding..." Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #74

It was used as a political football to get the Bush Tax Cuts passed. It was delayed, for almost sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #80

Here's what I know: DADT is dead and gone. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #81

I didn't think you did know much about it. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #84

That is the most fucking dumb position on DADT I've heard yet. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #85

civil rights is a big big risk to his political further I suppose fascisthunter Apr 2012 #67

Maybe once again, he thinks an EO is not the way to go. treestar Apr 2012 #87

That's not what he thought in December 2010. Why the change in position? It's an election year! Better Believe It Apr 2012 #89

Are you implying that the majority of voters do not support whatever it is you think the treestar Apr 2012 #90