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In reply to the discussion: Obama Disappoints Gay Groups By Refusing To Ban Discrimination Against Gay Federal Contractors [View all]FreeState
(10,570 posts)74. "my ability to make sure that the federal government is an employer that treats gays and lesbians...
"There still a lot of things we can do administratively even if we don't pass things legislatively. So my ability to make sure that the federal government is an employer that treats gays and lesbians fairly, that's something I can do, and sets a model for folks across the board,"
Thanks for pointing this out. Im so tiered of being treated like a political pawn. 75% of the public supports EDNA - there is not political damage from an EO here.
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Purveyor
Apr 2012
OP
He disappoints more than gays on this. He disappoints any straight with half a brain.
kestrel91316
Apr 2012
#2
Well, it would. It would give certain 'moderate' Democrats an out that I don't think they should
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#34
How so? In fact it would show moderate democrats that the president expects them
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2012
#40
You do that with a phone call from the Oval Office telling them to stand up and be counted. Barney
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#48
The problem is that if an EO is under court challenge, it's probable that Judiciary won't take the
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#46
Rep. Frank has pending legislation on this matter. Should the President not allow him an ENDA
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#23
Yes, i know. The EO is much limited in scope and could have been used to set
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2012
#44
Let me ask you something. How many times has an EO been overturned by the Courts?
TriMera
Apr 2012
#69
Um. This tells me you never read why. Read the Youngstown case, and when you understand
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#70
I disagree with you, respectfully. I think EDNA deserves a chance at passage, and if it doesn't
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#15
Why would you assume it doesn't affect me? Issuing an EO gives Congress a pass. It also allows
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#20
I think he's shown tremendous leadership. You may disagree, I will vote for him in November.
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#25
i think its bigoted to cast aspersions on a minority group for standing up for their rights
La Lioness Priyanka
Apr 2012
#37
Well, I don't disagree with the right, I just disagree with how to go about obtaining it....
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#43
It's not the 'political process.' It's Civics. Tell me how an Article 1, Section 8 matter is best
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#53
Mr. M. Mouse. (That is, if they count my vote with the optical scan machines.)
FedUp_Queer
Apr 2012
#66
I wouldn't consider an EO until Barney Frank's legislation is off the table. (HR 1397)
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#12
Outrage aside, I'm a girl who loves a separation of powers debate. I know our President is
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#18
As I've explained above, an EO could actually interfere with pending legslation....ENDA.
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#60
Good legislation is better than good press. I hope Barney Frank can do this last
msanthrope
Apr 2012
#63