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In the discussion thread: Can you really say that being a stay home Mother is a career? [View all]

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:18 PM

34. Ann Romney was born in 1949.

Her first child was born in 1970. The last was born in 1981. She completed the college degree which she began in 1969 in 1975.

Her youngest became an adult in 1999.

If we accept the premise that "parenting is hard work", her last day on the job was 14 years ago. Can you still call yourself a stay at home parent when your kids moved out decades ago?

Calling her out is fine with me too.

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147 replies	Author	Time	Post
Can you really say that being a stay home Mother is a career? [View all]	trumad	Apr 2012	OP
I'm sure she had plenty of help, paid and otherwise, and never had to worry about	librechik	Apr 2012	#1
I'm sure she knows all about having plastic surgery, hiring nannies, telling the chef what to cook,	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#50
I suppose it works both ways.	Snake Alchemist	Apr 2012	#2
Well some have done both...	trumad	Apr 2012	#5
I've done both.	Maine-ah	Apr 2012	#8
I have done both.	HopeFor2006	Apr 2012	#22
I did both. I stayed home for 10 years raising the 3 kids. Then I went into the workforce.	CTyankee	Apr 2012	#76
Not working yet	laundry_queen	Apr 2012	#93
I would not consider it a working career either, but I like you know how damn tough it is. Unless	teddy51	Apr 2012	#3
I do view stay at home Mom as --	Hell Hath No Fury	Apr 2012	#4
agree. And stay at home parents	Bluerthanblue	Apr 2012	#14
That's precisely it. A stay-at-home mom provides experience for having another stay-at-home mom	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#39
since you've never been a stay-at-home mom	RainDog	Apr 2012	#102
How? For the same reason you don't have to jump from a 5-storey bldg to know it hurts	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#117
stay-at-home parents also do volunteer work	RainDog	Apr 2012	#130
That's different because that's not a family relationship. And you're right...	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#131
Give it up	joeglow3	Apr 2012	#133
good advice n/t	RainDog	Apr 2012	#136
If that is the case then the 92.3% of women losing jobs is BS	Bandit	Apr 2012	#6
I'm at work from 8-5, my wife is working from 8-5	snooper2	Apr 2012	#7
I suppose the one who could call it a career is the	asjr	Apr 2012	#9
Particularly NOT the Duggar woman, since she merely pops them out and her other kids care for them	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#46
How can someone knows what goes on in China unless they live there	The Straight Story	Apr 2012	#10
If "stay-at-home mom" is a career, what about a "stay-at-home wife?" Is that a career if you take	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#57
I did both	Happyhippychick	Apr 2012	#11
It's the hardest job in the world, but it's not a career. I decided not to have kids because it's	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#12
But if you list housekeeper, nanny, personal assistant and communty organizer	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#29
Yes. Cleaning houses, though, doesn't require a resume, and caring for children requires a degree	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#37
I know college instructors in the same boat.	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#42
College instructors have a degree, I suppose, and (one imagines) resume-worthy experience nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#54
4 loads of laundry a week and cooking	blueamy66	Apr 2012	#59
Of course! Doing 2 jobs is just hard. Too hard. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#62
True but Hillary Rosen should have been clear	malaise	Apr 2012	#13
If it is, then how do you climb the career ladder?	Ezlivin	Apr 2012	#15
definition	abelenkpe	Apr 2012	#16
It's a bit of a "dead end" career	Sheepshank	Apr 2012	#17
Kinda like "wife" or "husband," which have duties you can't use on a resume. They're important,	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#43
Do we really want to attack stay at home mothers?	former9thward	Apr 2012	#18
Nobody is attacking stay at home Mothers...	trumad	Apr 2012	#26
Except that is not what the quote was.	former9thward	Apr 2012	#28
No one is attacking stay-at-home mothers. I have LOTS of experience as a wife but is that resume-	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#40
No one was talking about resumes.	former9thward	Apr 2012	#75
It really wasn't a dumb statement. Republican shitheads know damned well what work is	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#99
If you consider familial duties a job, then every single thing in life is a job, no holds barred.nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#120
You are changing the quote.	former9thward	Apr 2012	#123
I didn't ignore the quote. She has never worked a job. Family tasks are not "work."	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#124
Not only does President Obama strongly disagree with you	former9thward	Apr 2012	#125
Obama is a gentle soul that often prefers to take the Gandhi way out of issues	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#132
Please define "work"	joeglow3	Apr 2012	#134
CERTAINLY NOT what we do normally for our relatives! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#141
So, you make up your own definitions and then argue that THAT is correct	joeglow3	Apr 2012	#142
What do you mean? I said that relationships are not a job.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#143
You are trying to interpret what was said	joeglow3	Apr 2012	#144
The semantics games are what really, really, really anger me most of all. This is a great example	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#146
Of course it is. Just because you weren't paid for it doesn't make it any less a career choice	Cleita	Apr 2012	#19
well said	Bluerthanblue	Apr 2012	#23
If I were a stay at home mom, I'd be insulted.	Iris	Apr 2012	#52
But, isn't raising children the most important thing a woman has to do?	Cleita	Apr 2012	#73
No	Iris	Apr 2012	#80
So what is it in your mind?	Cleita	Apr 2012	#81
Parents make mistakes all the time.	Iris	Apr 2012	#82
I did office work and often made mistakes, but my mistakes were fixable.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#87
Children are resilient.	Iris	Apr 2012	#89
You are just being ridiculous.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#91
I am not being ridiculous.	Iris	Apr 2012	#138
No wonder there are so many neglected and screwed up kids in the	Cleita	Apr 2012	#139
Exactly. When parents don't do their jobs lives are ruined. n/t	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#107
So, if raising children is the most important thing women do, what about you and me?	REP	Apr 2012	#115
But I'm wondering... if "being a mom" is a career, is "being a husband" a career? Is "being a wife"	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#55
If your sister or cousin comes by and cooks, cleans and does child care for you, yes	Cleita	Apr 2012	#72
Doing something to make money and a career are different	Iris	Apr 2012	#85
Housekeeping actually is a career.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#90
So only children can turn family duties into an official job? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#100
You don't make sense. Please explain. n/t	Cleita	Apr 2012	#101
Being a mom, dad, sister, brother, cousin, aunt, uncle, grandma are not careers. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#118
Uh... hell no. I've taken care of my family members and haven't charged one penny. That's love	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#119
Well said! /nt	October	Apr 2012	#98
As a father, here's my answer	Justice4allofus	Apr 2012	#20
I had a friend, who was a single mother, who said the same thing.	Cleita	Apr 2012	#31
Unless you're home-schooling or having a clown-car full of kids, it's not a long term career.	PassingFair	Apr 2012	#68
Yes it is. nt	Opportunityknocks	Apr 2012	#21
i started working at 12. stopped at 33. stay at home is not a career. a career killer.	seabeyond	Apr 2012	#24
I do have to agree. I have lots of experience as a wife, but I can't put that on a resume.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#41
Ludicrous to claim that Ms Romney has anything in common	Permanut	Apr 2012	#25
Mitt has made her the expert in his campaign about job equality and pay...	trumad	Apr 2012	#27
That's F absurd nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#47
She's a rich woman, she's a rich daughter, a rich wife, a rich granddaughter, a rich mom, a rich	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#45
Yes I would say that.	proud2BlibKansan	Apr 2012	#30
I am a stay at home Dad. It is an honor, a sacrifice, an investment, and a luxury; but not a career.	MatthewStLouis	Apr 2012	#32
And a career generally lasts a lifetime.	Iris	Apr 2012	#56
Doing anything for family is always an honor, a sacrifice, and pretty cool. I love being an aunt to	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#61
Agreed. Too bad the quote was not that she has never had a career	joeglow3	Apr 2012	#135
Ann Romney was not a typical stay at home Mom.	Jennicut	Apr 2012	#33
Ann Romney was born in 1949.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2012	#34
wiki says she was largely invisible as a governor's wife	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#104
It's certainly not a career in the traditional sense of that word.	SheilaT	Apr 2012	#35
I can ...	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#36
What is wrong with being a stay-at-home mom	RebelOne	Apr 2012	#38
What's wrong with it? Nothing, but the discussion is not about that. lol nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#44
Not a thing. What's wrong is how Ann is defining it -	Avalux	Apr 2012	#51
No. It's a job. But not a career.	Iris	Apr 2012	#48
Depends upon the situation	TBF	Apr 2012	#49
I believe it can be one of the most grueling jobs in my estimation	Broderick	Apr 2012	#53
then maybe you need to "rethink" how you are raising your kids	blueamy66	Apr 2012	#60
Naps with 3 and 4 year olds	Broderick	Apr 2012	#70
No, it's not a career....	blueamy66	Apr 2012	#58
I was a stay-at-hone mom for 3 years when my children were young.	RebelOne	Apr 2012	#63
Webster: "Career" (n)...	OneTenthofOnePercent	Apr 2012	#78
Yeah, I think it is.	H2O Man	Apr 2012	#64
All I know is that this should be handled very delicately.	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#65
I really did try and word my OP with that in mind.	trumad	Apr 2012	#67
I think you did a good job of it.	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#86
It is a job and there is a difference	quaker bill	Apr 2012	#66
The Kennedys are (were) wealthy	lillypaddle	Apr 2012	#69
Lillypaddle, I've been posting much the same. You nailed it.	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#108
No.	kiva	Apr 2012	#71
I can't believe all the feminists on this board, suddenly don't think the work that	Cleita	Apr 2012	#74
Working women work, even if that work is housework and child care	REP	Apr 2012	#116
If it is, then Octomom should be the CEO. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2012	#77
Career, no.	ManiacJoe	Apr 2012	#79
Um, helloooo!! Is household cook or faithful family retainer a full time job?	Bruce Wayne	Apr 2012	#83
Yes...Indeed I think it's a Career!	KoKo	Apr 2012	#84
Mrs. Romney (and make no mistake - her only identity is as Mitt's wife)	baldguy	Apr 2012	#88
It was "Her Choice" in the time frame of the beliefs she grew up with as Mormon and	KoKo	Apr 2012	#94
There are millions of women who made the same choice - but didn't have the luxury of being rich	baldguy	Apr 2012	#96
Her Husband is the one running for President. I will not condemn her for her	KoKo	Apr 2012	#97
I don't	varelse	Apr 2012	#92
Boy, is this ever a lose lose argument.	Zax2me	Apr 2012	#95
Is he?	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#109
I think it's a lot of work. A lot of jobs we have are not necessarily careers, but they are jobs	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2012	#103
Taking care of my autistic child and my toddler is indeed work.	Butterbean	Apr 2012	#105
Welcome to DU!	greyl	Apr 2012	#106
Butterbean we're not all stupid.	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#110
I totally agree with you. Motherhood is a career choice. What you do is a full time plus plus job.	IndyJones	Apr 2012	#113
This autistic guy says welcome to DU!	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#121
Hey there, Odin. :) Nice to meet you.	Butterbean	Apr 2012	#137
Thanks!	Odin2005	Apr 2012	#140
no	greymattermom	Apr 2012	#111
This is such a nontroversy.	IndyJones	Apr 2012	#112
Mrs. Romney is out of touch.	Quantess	Apr 2012	#114
Yes, and fuck those who under value it-	BeHereNow	Apr 2012	#122
YES	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#126
I think attacking women's choices is a dead end. A toxic line of debate. nt	Romulox	Apr 2012	#127
Yes!	ananda	Apr 2012	#128
I guess I'm working two jobs, then	Sabriel	Apr 2012	#129
Not in a capitalist dominated society	marshall	Apr 2012	#145
Please Note, I am taling tongue in cheek	Xyzse	Apr 2012	#147

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