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Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:36 AM

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149. I can't understand, but I can empathize. I can care.

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204 replies	Author	Time	Post
Dear White Folks - great piece in Ebony [View all]	malaise	Apr 2012	OP
I think Zimmerman should be locked up	Syrinx	Apr 2012	#1
I think you miss the point	zentrum	Apr 2012	#27
Very well said, and underscored by me. nt	Mira	Apr 2012	#29
Well said and applies to too many of the responses to this article	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#35
Well said!!! One has to be in the other persons shoes to really understand their	RKP5637	Apr 2012	#44
+1	uponit7771	Apr 2012	#79
YES	marshall gaines	Apr 2012	#94
excellent response, zentrum	Carolina	Apr 2012	#99
I wish I could mark this as a favorite.	Jazzgirl	Apr 2012	#112
Excellent post	malaise	Apr 2012	#172
Sad but very true, unfortunately.	AverageJoe90	Apr 2012	#195
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Maraya1969	Apr 2012	#41
Exactly.	zentrum	Apr 2012	#51
I don't want to trivialize what happened to you	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#60
"I made the mistake of walking in a majority black neighborhood..."	ieoeja	Apr 2012	#78
This is an excellent response! nt	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#82
"...I made the mistake of walking in a majority black neighborhood, .." Why was this a "mistake"?	uponit7771	Apr 2012	#80
Bravo! I doubt it even happened and that the poster who	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#163
Good question	Dorian Gray	Apr 2012	#200
A lot more black people killed by blacks	brush	Apr 2012	#91
A lot more black people killed by blacks	brush	Apr 2012	#92
because they want to divert away from what happened here	olderlib	Apr 2012	#185
It's not the pervasiveness of guns, either.	Atypical Liberal	Apr 2012	#104
that "black on black" mess is just a red herring	SemperEadem	Apr 2012	#111
Some bad abuse of math in that article...	Ka hrnt	Apr 2012	#127
ya,... sure... if you say so	SemperEadem	Apr 2012	#155
Thanks for the article. Interesting stuff, indeed.	AverageJoe90	Apr 2012	#197
And no one EVER gets robbed in white neighborhoods, right?	Erose999	Apr 2012	#170
ugh. the author loses me by lumping ALL white people together	cali	Apr 2012	#2
+1	Daniel537	Apr 2012	#4
Thank you	sarge43	Apr 2012	#8
thank you for putting that so well.	cali	Apr 2012	#13
true. As soon as you say. "you CAN'T understand"	BlancheSplanchnik	Apr 2012	#117
+1000 +++ n/t	RKP5637	Apr 2012	#46
Well said! nt	Raine	Apr 2012	#109
Well said.	Ka hrnt	Apr 2012	#128
I can understand perfectly what he is saying.....	secondwind	Apr 2012	#20
It's also	pintobean	Apr 2012	#43
Don't be over-sensitive. You should pay closer attention to what he actually said.	kwassa	Apr 2012	#174
Ebomy..... Or Ebony? Nt	xchrom	Apr 2012	#3
Typo	malaise	Apr 2012	#5
The white privileged class is NOT necessarily ALL white people.	fasttense	Apr 2012	#6
Good points that need repeating (perhaps in an OP?). Thanks -n/t	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#166
All whites have privilege, regardless of income.	kwassa	Apr 2012	#171
The Expression "We are All Trayvon Martin"	On the Road	Apr 2012	#7
That's how I take this article too.	obxhead	Apr 2012	#30
Yes makes it kind of hard to know what to do	Raine	Apr 2012	#108
Thank you for this. I'm going to pass it around. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#9
"It is time to stop denying racism and defending White privilege, distracting and deflecting with	retread	Apr 2012	#10
oh bullshit. Not agreeing with this ill thought out screed does not	cali	Apr 2012	#15
So you don't deny that you benefit from being white ?	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#76
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"	retread	Apr 2012	#159
I have imagined all that and more	lunatica	Apr 2012	#11
good post. well made point.	cali	Apr 2012	#17
None of that compares to the horror of being Clarence Thomas.	Nye Bevan	Apr 2012	#33
Department of Critical Culture, Gender and Race Studies at Washington State University.	stonecutter357	Apr 2012	#12
I would say in his defense	treestar	Apr 2012	#47
I was robbed and pistol whipped...	meaculpa2011	Apr 2012	#14
I'm so sorry.	AverageJoe90	Apr 2012	#196
I don't think he backed off.	meaculpa2011	Apr 2012	#202
Thanks for sharing this	wellstone dem	Apr 2012	#16
Great post.	secondwind	Apr 2012	#23
The author seems to just want to shame white people because they won't be profiled	Daniel537	Apr 2012	#18
Believe me a lot of white people are very ignorant about how bad it is.	mucifer	Apr 2012	#19
There's plenty of people ignorant about many things in the world	Daniel537	Apr 2012	#26
I am a white woman and I did not get the same feeling from the article.	mucifer	Apr 2012	#28
I woke up only recently myself. nt	AverageJoe90	Apr 2012	#198
Acknowledging a problem, an inequity is the first step in long term change.	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#39
Sorry but ETHNIC white people are always suspicious of the power structure.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#21
I cannot believe the responses to this post! When did we	secondwind	Apr 2012	#22
David Leonard is white n/t	malaise	Apr 2012	#25
oh for pity's sake. It's just flat wrong to lump any group of people into one stereotype.	cali	Apr 2012	#31
Why do you feel ashamed of us?	lunatica	Apr 2012	#32
Actually the article seems to be about what white people cannot feel ...	GOTV	Apr 2012	#85
Dear David Leonard	mactime	Apr 2012	#24
Bringing up that 2007 murder is a kneejerk racist reaction	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#50
Just pointing out the lopsidedness	mactime	Apr 2012	#54
I think you made his point instead	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#55
I did not know the point was to list examples of white victimhood	mactime	Apr 2012	#58
So you dredged up a 5 yr old example of 'white victimhood'	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#63
Wow did not expect this kind of vitriol	mactime	Apr 2012	#75
Poor you, you can stop backpedaling	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#77
I am having some trouble with my memory	hfojvt	Apr 2012	#34
Playing the "race denial" card on DU	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#36
Time to pay the piper	FrodosPet	Apr 2012	#52
Martin luther king would be proud.	Muskypundit	Apr 2012	#100
Which posts in this thread make either of the first two claims you alledge?	GOTV	Apr 2012	#86
since mine is post #36, the posts I refer to must have been earlier	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#90
Yes, if they existed they would have been posted earlier, but since you listed no examples ...	GOTV	Apr 2012	#105
uh huh	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#113
Simple to list one. Can't do it?	GOTV	Apr 2012	#160
I am not interested in being badgered by race baiters	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#161
Backtracking apology accepted	GOTV	Apr 2012	#165
The Great White Hope	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#167
Nice post	malaise	Apr 2012	#153
Thanks Malaise for posting the thread	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#162
As a parent, the part of the Trayvon story that hurts and angers me most	Greybnk48	Apr 2012	#37
And they had his cell phone	malaise	Apr 2012	#56
This "I am not Trayvon Martin" meme is just a way for certain white people to pose as "enlightened"	aikoaiko	Apr 2012	#38
unfortunately the people that need to read this	Enrique	Apr 2012	#40
But at least some of them will read it here	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#70
It's Still Easier To Be White Than A Person Of Color In This Country	DemocratSinceBirth	Apr 2012	#42
Reperations NOW!	FrodosPet	Apr 2012	#45
Dear Black Folks	Aerows	Apr 2012	#48
That's my dream	malaise	Apr 2012	#106
Not very well put, but I agree with parts	FightForChange	Apr 2012	#49
What a shame...	99Forever	Apr 2012	#53
The Argument Is It's Invisible	DemocratSinceBirth	Apr 2012	#57
you probably cash some in everyday without realising it nt	independentpiney	Apr 2012	#59
+1000 nt	abelenkpe	Apr 2012	#98
You misunderstand what the term means	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#61
well said, and helpful, Marrah_G. thank you. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#140
If you have never been arrested for being White, then you are already cashing in your privilege.	ieoeja	Apr 2012	#62
Well said	malaise	Apr 2012	#71
Did I defend ..	99Forever	Apr 2012	#83
If you actually think that Blacks wouldn't be treated even worse under the same circumstances, then	ieoeja	Apr 2012	#88
If you want to...	99Forever	Apr 2012	#89
Where to cash in?	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2012	#67
Okay, I agree. Now what?	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2012	#64
I think it's funny that the author references "The Brady Bunch" and gets CINDY wrong. Really. nt	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#65
LOL. The Brady Bunch references jumped out at me too.	RZM	Apr 2012	#66
Thisis a good and valuable article. Anyone who thinks it is possible to live in another's skin	annabanana	Apr 2012	#68
uh no. you can be empathetic. BIG Difference.	cali	Apr 2012	#102
this cannot be clearer	Baitball Blogger	Apr 2012	#69
Some valid points poorly done.	JNelson6563	Apr 2012	#72
Its a crying ass shame	madokie	Apr 2012	#73
+1. nt	bemildred	Apr 2012	#74
k&r	Starry Messenger	Apr 2012	#81
the focus should be on zimmerman	noiretextatique	Apr 2012	#84
Honestly I can't imagine except in my nightmares.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2012	#87
When I was a young girl I remember reading a classic book called	malaise	Apr 2012	#116
I haven't read "Black Like Me" yet.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2012	#119
I just told a co-worker/friend about this book.	Uncle Joe	Apr 2012	#177
He had to leave the South	malaise	Apr 2012	#187
EXCELLENT	marshall gaines	Apr 2012	#93
Once again as a white autistic	aspieextrodinare	Apr 2012	#95
say what? How could your come and kill you tomorrow and not be punished for it?	cali	Apr 2012	#103
It isn't illegal to kill an autistic like me	aspieextrodinare	Apr 2012	#132
the point is, if you were also black, you would be more threatened than you are.	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#143
I have several friends who are both black and on the spectrum	aspieextrodinare	Apr 2012	#173
as atrocious as that horror is, as indecent as those facts are, things are even more	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#178
what do you mean non-literal speech?	maddezmom	Apr 2012	#186
You misunderstand what privilege means	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#154
you say it so succintly! i had just posted almost the same, but you put it so directly!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#179
You're welcome	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#180
So there would be a 96% chance of me never finding meaningful employment	aspieextrodinare	Apr 2012	#183
K&R	DeSwiss	Apr 2012	#96
This message was self-deleted by its author	americaninohio	Apr 2012	#97
oh goody. a live one.	cali	Apr 2012	#101
I'm half a white folk	Tveil	Apr 2012	#107
I'm half a white folk too	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#121
Well said	malaise	Apr 2012	#146
When you address any racial group as some universal group think mob, you sound racist.	Kurska	Apr 2012	#110
"it is never okay to lump together the thoughts feelings and experiences of an entire people"	Generic Other	Apr 2012	#122
This is racist. nt	Liquorice	Apr 2012	#114
I am not black but that doesn't mean I don't feel your outrage because I do. You should be able	southernyankeebelle	Apr 2012	#115
I think poor white people also get a rotten deal but they can disappear	malaise	Apr 2012	#118
so true. I hate racists. I just wasn't raised that way. Of course I come from a lower middle	southernyankeebelle	Apr 2012	#120
We weren't allowed to go to slumber parties but there were no issues about race	malaise	Apr 2012	#123
with all due respect	Skittles	Apr 2012	#124
Peter? Jan? Bobby? Are all white people the Brady Bunch?	Crunchy Frog	Apr 2012	#125
As a 59 year old WASP, I think I'm going to subscribe.	ellie_belly	Apr 2012	#126
This article is bull. How does this guy presume to walk in another's shoes...	Honeycombe8	Apr 2012	#129
"White America is never suspicious."	napoleon_in_rags	Apr 2012	#130
But you answered your own question	malaise	Apr 2012	#145
It's harder for middle class black youth, but not true they have no chance....	Honeycombe8	Apr 2012	#190
Money just feels like the deepest issue to me.	napoleon_in_rags	Apr 2012	#191
You can get a pass whenever you want it. Black people don't have that option.	kwassa	Apr 2012	#192
There are white people in the ghetto, when you look at the bid idea of what it is.	napoleon_in_rags	Apr 2012	#194
I agree with you about the poverty	kwassa	Apr 2012	#204
This post was hidden by jury decision.	webDude	Apr 2012	#131
We'll file this thread as Exhibit #3869 for why racism cannot be discussed on DU.	Number23	Apr 2012	#133
I'll file your post under	cali	Apr 2012	#134
You do whatever you feel you need to do.	Number23	Apr 2012	#138
*	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#136
This thread did nothing but prove StrongBlackMan's point, didn't it?	Number23	Apr 2012	#139
yes. i am shaking my head, and all over, from reading it.	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#141
Trayvon's parents	mimi85	Apr 2012	#135
It's so odd that these "new posters" have been violently attacked by Blacks...	Walk away	Apr 2012	#137
Amazing isn't it	malaise	Apr 2012	#144
you found words i was searching for, thank you so much, Walk away. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#147
Ha-ha. Methinks you are on the cusp of a great	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#164
thank you for posting that, malaise. it would, of course, receive fierce resistance, but	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#142
Cool	malaise	Apr 2012	#148
*	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#156
stupid will almost always get pushback from me.	cali	Apr 2012	#150
aren't you on a fierce roll, cali? why has this gotten to you so badly?	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#157
I can't understand, but I can empathize. I can care.	Scuba	Apr 2012	#149
If you are white and you can't see this point, then you are proving it.	6000eliot	Apr 2012	#151
Exactly...Folks are blind	HipChick	Apr 2012	#152
(light coming on)YES!!!! excellent!! in such clear words, thank you so very much, 6000eliot!!!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#158
His point is built on a straw man.	aikoaiko	Apr 2012	#169
His point is that you can't possibly have the same life experience as Trayvon	kwassa	Apr 2012	#176
exactly nt	olderlib	Apr 2012	#182
Another crappy article that misses its audience completely...	MellowDem	Apr 2012	#168
What does "We're all Martin" mean to you?	kwassa	Apr 2012	#175
it bugs me when whites say 'we're all Martin'	olderlib	Apr 2012	#184
Great article!	olderlib	Apr 2012	#181
I don't get it either	malaise	Apr 2012	#188
thanks! nt	olderlib	Apr 2012	#189
Fail. Too much 'white people' grouped together here.	Zax2me	Apr 2012	#193
If I understand this piece correctly,	NashvilleLefty	Apr 2012	#199
That simple	malaise	Apr 2012	#201
Wait, Zimmerman is white?! #mindblown. nt	Snake Alchemist	Apr 2012	#203

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