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redgreenandblue

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60. hmm

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:40 AM

Apr 2012

There are scholars who claim that the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo was escalated by the intervention and that furthermore the approach of the West neglected that neither the Croatians nor the Albanians were innocent parties in this conflict.

Vietnam? Well, there are mixed opinions on that, to say the least...

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Why do people find it necessary to defend/excuse/deny US imperialism? [View all] redgreenandblue Apr 2012 OP

du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2012 #1

Those who criticize the critics of imperialism hifiguy Apr 2012 #2

LOL! cali Apr 2012 #7

What? hifiguy Apr 2012 #12

You might enjoy this book... drokhole Apr 2012 #30

I'm confused as well. white_wolf Apr 2012 #59

Read Zinn nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #18

Yes, American imperialism was in place long before Marx and ideology named it. freshwest Apr 2012 #38

Ah - well perhaps they see things different than you el_bryanto Apr 2012 #3

In Latin America and the Middle East I think it is pretty obvious. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #5

Again that begs the question el_bryanto Apr 2012 #9

I think with Obama its complicated. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #13

So essentially corrupt - perhaps an understandable corruption el_bryanto Apr 2012 #16

Probably they see things differently. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #19

In this matter I would guess that it's a matter of degree el_bryanto Apr 2012 #22

Actually empire is independent of party or ideology nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #28

He doesn't say it because he will be impeached by the radical "patriots" larkrake Apr 2012 #24

He has to work within the system abelenkpe Apr 2012 #26

Why do you find it necessary to defend/excuse/deny the leader of US imperialism? aikoaiko Apr 2012 #36

Touche. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #37

You're gracious. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #40

eloquently put. think Apr 2012 #4

Impressions don't really mean very much. cali Apr 2012 #6

So what would be a less simplistic assessment? redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #10

Bush did go rogue, in war, in torture, in taking our rights away larkrake Apr 2012 #25

Many governments and countries live comfortably within their borders, bvar22 Apr 2012 #63

It's a bad habit leftover from McCarthyism. "You're either with us or against us" thinking. leveymg Apr 2012 #8

Fascinating ProSense Apr 2012 #11

Imposing sanctions is a step beyond ceasing to support someone. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #14

Well, ProSense Apr 2012 #15

What is wrong with the response? redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #17

Only goes to prove: sometimes, even in spite of ourselves, we do the right thing. leveymg Apr 2012 #27

I missing ProSense Apr 2012 #29

The right thing delayed, as in Rwanda, is the wrong thing to do. Iraq,we never did the right thing leveymg Apr 2012 #52

Korea, Vietnam, Yemen and Kosovo. ieoeja Apr 2012 #43

I almost didn't include Asia, but Vietnam was such a clusterfuck. leveymg Apr 2012 #51

I would say Korea was more than a draw though less than a victory. ieoeja Apr 2012 #54

Ok. Izzy Stone would probably disagree with the "sole policy" bit, but compared to most of leveymg Apr 2012 #56

hmm redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #60

Empires, especially those in decline, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #20

They don't want to feel guilt or shame got root Apr 2012 #21

if we would stop supporting dictators noiretextatique Apr 2012 #23

Because they benefit from it in the short term independentpiney Apr 2012 #31

Lots to look at cademocr Apr 2012 #32

Willful Ignorance... JEB Apr 2012 #33

Because the emperor is a democrat. whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #34

Fear, perhaps? HopelesslyLiberal Apr 2012 #35

Empires don't tell their own people the truth Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #39

^ Nailed It ^ bvar22 Apr 2012 #62

Just wait for a change in party in the White House. obxhead Apr 2012 #41

Not really, it's more that imperialism is used as kind of a "Two Minutes Hate." joshcryer Apr 2012 #42

China and Russia redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #61

Yes I do. joshcryer Apr 2012 #64

Maybe for the same reason many Republicans deny birtherism... ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2012 #44

That will take some time thinking about. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #48

I am more than willing to acknowledge that the U.S. has failed to live up to its standards... ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2012 #55

The USSR played both Germany and the US. See: Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact joshcryer Apr 2012 #53

To get back to your questions: redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #65

This is what is named "The Shadow Government" Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #45

why? because it helps some people sleep better at night. Javaman Apr 2012 #46

Well it's six pages long but I believe the psychological analysis on this thread in the Good Reads Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #47

Thanks for the link. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #49

You're welcome and welcome to D.U. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #50

Simple, it doesnt meet my definition of Imperialism. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #57

Blame "America"first? Anytime someone pulls that crap on me, I say eridani Apr 2012 #58