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In the discussion thread: We don't know if Zimmerman is guilty [View all]

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:56 PM

Vattel (3,287 posts)

16. Based on the 911 call, it seems likely he followed him because he thought he might be a burglar.

I agree that maybe he pulled his gun on Martin and Martin tried to defend himself. There are plenty of maybes in this case.

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105 replies	Author	Time	Post
We don't know if Zimmerman is guilty [View all]	Vattel	Apr 2012	OP
We also know that Zimmy was told to not follow Trayvon, but he did. At what point did it become	uppityperson	Apr 2012	#1
We don't even know that to any high degree of certainty.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#11
Was he killed at his truck? If not, then he followed Trayvon.	uppityperson	Apr 2012	#27
How do you know he continued to follow the boy?	Life Long Dem	Apr 2012	#19
timeline of events by witnesses	TorchTheWitch	Apr 2012	#37
So where was Zimmerman talking to dispatch in relation to the death?	Life Long Dem	Apr 2012	#61
Actually, he wasn't told that.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#70
+1	Oneka	Apr 2012	#73
Does a 911 dispatcher have the legal authority to give orders to people?	Freddie Stubbs	Apr 2012	#82
In some jurisdictions, yes	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#84
No.	ermoore	Apr 2012	#96
In MN a 911 dispatcher is a police person.	jwirr	Apr 2012	#105
I don't know the answer	shimonitanegi	Apr 2012	#98
Martin has the right to stand his ground too	HockeyMom	Apr 2012	#2
Boy, that is a good point	Cosmocat	Apr 2012	#23
+1000 for the first sentence. -1000 for the rest (which is garbage).	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#72
+1000	guitar man	Apr 2012	#38
yes	arely staircase	Apr 2012	#56
Actually, when you are in public	SATIRical	Apr 2012	#80
As a female, that is dispicable	HockeyMom	Apr 2012	#81
Actually, yes, he can	SATIRical	Apr 2012	#83
It's not legally stalking, but they can't do that	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#86
Yes we do. Zimmerman cut him off at an impasse by Zimmerman's testimony.	vaberella	Apr 2012	#90
Where is there evidence Zimmerman did the confronting?	SATIRical	Apr 2012	#91
And we certainly don’t know who initiated the violence? Please child, Bless your heart, no one is	Vincardog	Apr 2012	#3
We do know	Politicalboi	Apr 2012	#4
No, he was NOT told to stop following Martin.	eqfan592	Apr 2012	#74
We have a pretty damned good idea.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#5
What theories?	Vattel	Apr 2012	#9
And if you are still here as well	tkmorris	Apr 2012	#99
Why was Zimmerman outside of his car?	livetohike	Apr 2012	#6
Based on the 911 call, it seems likely he followed him because he thought he might be a burglar.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#16
Zimmerman thinks he's guilty.	randome	Apr 2012	#7
But, there is definitely enough for an arrest...	lame54	Apr 2012	#8
I agree.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#12
I think Zimmerman initiated the confrontation and tried to detain Trayvon.Which makes him the....	Logical	Apr 2012	#10
Why do you think that he tried to detain Martin? Are you guessing?	Vattel	Apr 2012	#13
Because Zimmerman, based on past things he has done, seems like a....	Logical	Apr 2012	#15
That's a pretty thin basis for your conclusion.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#17
Well, I don't either. The issue is that without witnesses we only have Zimmermans story to go on.	Logical	Apr 2012	#18
Why have you been defending him since this whole thing started? Does it do something for you?	K Gardner	Apr 2012	#14
His Vested Interest, Ma'am, Is Still Being Able To Carry a Gun In Hope Of Getting To Shoot Someone	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#21
Exactly the sort of pretending to know things that bothers me.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#25
You Act, Sir, Like You Have No Record Of Posting Here....	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#28
+1000	K Gardner	Apr 2012	#31
Lol, so you divine my gun fantasies from earlier posts.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#34
Words Are A Window To the Soul, Sir	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#43
Wow, what an incredible thing to say.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#47
Here Till Thursday, Sir: Be Sure And Try the Veal....	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#54
Juror #4 (me) voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Geeze ...call the Wambulance	L0oniX	Apr 2012	#79
I am not really defending him since for all I know he is a murderer.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#22
I think your Gig is up here, Vattel. Seriously. You can probably stop now. n/t	K Gardner	Apr 2012	#33
I know he didn't have a broken nose	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#89
I've wondered the same thing.	Ineeda	Apr 2012	#24
Not every post anyway.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#52
In my view	Aerows	Apr 2012	#20
but	bigapple	Apr 2012	#29
But that isn't what happened	Aerows	Apr 2012	#35
ok	bigapple	Apr 2012	#40
It depends	Aerows	Apr 2012	#53
Mindset.	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#58
Who initiated contact and who continued it after 9/11 asked him to not to pursue?	The Straight Story	Apr 2012	#26
Damn straight	Aerows	Apr 2012	#36
this type of shit reminds me of wingnuts saying about evolution and other things	JI7	Apr 2012	#30
WHy did Zimmerman lie about the broken nose and claiming he was the one screaming help	JI7	Apr 2012	#32
How do you know his nose was not broken?	Vattel	Apr 2012	#39
lack of medical records and the video shortly after the shooting	JI7	Apr 2012	#44
Medical records,	Oneka	Apr 2012	#68
Look \at his mug shot shown in another thread. Nose looks OK, n't	RebelOne	Apr 2012	#62
I don't beleive that	Oneka	Apr 2012	#69
Please PLEASE stop responding to him. It's what he wants. n/t	K Gardner	Apr 2012	#42
Actually I find it very unpleasant.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#48
The special prosecutor must know the answer	countingbluecars	Apr 2012	#41
^^^^THIS^^^^	HangOnKids	Apr 2012	#46
I agree that this changes things.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#49
Impersonating an officer of the law ...	orpupilofnature57	Apr 2012	#77
Hopefully the Zimmerman Lynch Mob will calm down now and let the wheels of justice turn.	MNBrewer	Apr 2012	#45
There Is And Has Been No Lynch Mob, Fella	The Magistrate	Apr 2012	#50
I'm honored to have disturbed you from your constant and supercilious usage of "Sir"	MNBrewer	Apr 2012	#102
the only 'lynching' that actually has gone on, was perpetrated against an innocent kid.	got root	Apr 2012	#64
So you say.	MNBrewer	Apr 2012	#103
Like in the Casey Anthony trial ?	orpupilofnature57	Apr 2012	#78
That's your opinion, mine is different nt	Raine	Apr 2012	#51
Guilty as hell.	polly7	Apr 2012	#55
Um, the 'presumption of innocence' is an all-or-nothing	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#88
And that's exactly why I'll never be a lawyer, a judge ..... or probably	polly7	Apr 2012	#92
No harm in being honest. But to say you don't believe in the presumption of	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#93
No ........ I'm usually the last to be convinced someone is guilty of something that	polly7	Apr 2012	#94
Sorry, my rhetoric seems to have gotten the better of me tonight. Like all	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#97
Np.	polly7	Apr 2012	#100
the prosecutors think they know.	spanone	Apr 2012	#57
Just saying, in all fairness. blah, blah, blah.	Egalitarian Thug	Apr 2012	#59
What if Trayvon were female instead?	HockeyMom	Apr 2012	#60
was she	bigapple	Apr 2012	#95
wrong - he stalked, confronted, and then murdered a teenager	got root	Apr 2012	#63
I see two separate issues - Whether what Zimmerman did was illegal, and whether it was wrong.	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#65
I agree with everything you said.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#67
This case is a poster child of why SYG has to go	got root	Apr 2012	#71
Who said he was?	sendero	Apr 2012	#66
You are going to be accused of defending him.	Zax2me	Apr 2012	#75
the sad thing is	shimonitanegi	Apr 2012	#76
Zimmerman shot and killed an unarmed kid	BklnDem75	Apr 2012	#85
Since I'm not a potential juror, I will continue to speculate and discuss	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#87
Sure we do.	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#101
Let me put it this way:	Triana	Apr 2012	#104

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