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trumad

(41,692 posts) Mon Sep 1, 2014, 02:28 PM Sep 2014

Are you victim blaming when you encourage people not to take nude selfies? [View all]

My daughter accused me of victim blaming when I said if you don't want your nude selfie to get spread around on the net, don't take one.

I see her point--' but as someone who makes a living in the Cyber Security field. .. I see the hazard of doing such a thing.

Not sure how to handle this one.

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Are you victim blaming when you encourage people not to take nude selfies? [View all] trumad Sep 2014 OP

Wow! Laelth Sep 2014 #1

It's the way you're saying it. kcr Sep 2014 #2

Perhaps. .. trumad Sep 2014 #4

I know. I don't think you do kcr Sep 2014 #19

I agree the phrasing makes a difference, and I'd go with what pintobean said... PoliticAverse Sep 2014 #6

I diasgree. tazkcmo Sep 2014 #81

I told my daughter pintobean Sep 2014 #3

This is the right tack to take. Puts the decision in her hands, and gives your enough Sep 2014 #18

That is absolutely true. cwydro Sep 2014 #83

Yeah, but what will you say if she does something unwise? hunter Sep 2014 #91

She's in her mid 20s and fine. pintobean Sep 2014 #102

if one takes a nude selfie, one cannot claim to be a victim in any outcome from that choice nt msongs Sep 2014 #5

A famous "feminist" once said Kalidurga Sep 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Sep 2014 #12

Ridiculous anology. nt cwydro Sep 2014 #13

Oh I see now Kalidurga Sep 2014 #16

Sorry, I was out on my bike. cwydro Sep 2014 #78

You don't need to apologize for being on your bike. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #86

Oh, well then cwydro Sep 2014 #103

Stunningly stupid post. n/t jaysunb Sep 2014 #27

You seem intelligent Kalidurga Sep 2014 #53

Did you really type that? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #58

Did I type what? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #64

I'm laughing at how many people are pissed over this statement. Lancero Sep 2014 #62

I can spot victim blaming from a mile away Kalidurga Sep 2014 #63

Puh-lease tazkcmo Sep 2014 #82

Is it really minizing rape to compare sexual abuse to rape? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #87

No tazkcmo Sep 2014 #88

OIC engaging in a legal activity Kalidurga Sep 2014 #90

I don't see tazkcmo Sep 2014 #92

I don't see why anyone should have to justify taking a nude selfie Kalidurga Sep 2014 #93

Did you read the OP? tazkcmo Sep 2014 #94

Did you read the OP? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #96

Not at all tazkcmo Sep 2014 #97

So it's still not relevant Kalidurga Sep 2014 #98

really dumb sentiment. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #28

Right. And if a woman walks around half-naked, it's her own fault if she's raped. pnwmom Sep 2014 #59

Why would you discourage people from doing something they wish to do? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #7

Maybe I should not discourage... trumad Sep 2014 #8

I think that is a good thing to do Kalidurga Sep 2014 #11

Are you OK with 9 year olds firing Uzi's? Renew Deal Sep 2014 #84

Explain how that is relevant to this discussion. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #85

It is not shaming to point out that ANY electronic picture has the potential to go public... brooklynite Sep 2014 #10

Is it victim blaming if you tell someone not to step out in front of traffic? hobbit709 Sep 2014 #14

No, it's victim blaming when someone walks on the sidewalk NuclearDem Sep 2014 #20

The consequences of doing stupid things fall on the one doing it. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #35

Ha! I made mine password2 to fool everyone... Inkfreak Sep 2014 #54

The burden of moral guilt is on the people who stole said property PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #61

Absolutely not. TM99 Sep 2014 #15

she, alone, has to suffer any negative consequences. Kalidurga Sep 2014 #17

Mind reading is not your strong suit. TM99 Sep 2014 #22

I am so sorry to hear that Kalidurga Sep 2014 #26

Of course a hacker is responsible for their actions, TM99 Sep 2014 #30

Risk management is prudent Kalidurga Sep 2014 #34

Again with the mind reading. TM99 Sep 2014 #41

Are you sure? Kalidurga Sep 2014 #48

It is not flipplant to recognize that as adults TM99 Sep 2014 #68

I love how you throw around the word adult as if Kalidurga Sep 2014 #89

A mind reader, arrogant TM99 Sep 2014 #108

+1 well said... n/t jaysunb Sep 2014 #29

I never understood taking nude photos or doing sex videos Cleita Sep 2014 #21

There is a big difference ripcord Sep 2014 #24

Well, many couples take make sex videos for their own private enjoyment RandySF Sep 2014 #60

People don't expect to have their private phones hacked pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #23

If you don't want nice things stolen, don't have nice things!! If you don't want your credit card # PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #25

This ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #31

Do you leave your nice things unsecured in your home or TM99 Sep 2014 #36

You clearly missed part of the post to which you responded. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #37

Perhaps your point is not clear? nt TM99 Sep 2014 #43

+1 thank you. n/t Chan790 Sep 2014 #39

Eh, "don't leave your iPhone out in a bad neighborhood," is advice. joshcryer Sep 2014 #71

Nope. Iggo Sep 2014 #32

I don't take that attitude to those who advise me to lock the doors at night. Kaleva Sep 2014 #33

If you don't want your house broken into, don't have a house. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #40

Yes, you are. Chan790 Sep 2014 #38

tell her to avoid cloud storage and that any picture she sends is one button push away geek tragedy Sep 2014 #42

I think you got it there. Where is this "victim blaming" coming from? I got that on libdem4life Sep 2014 #44

Thirty celebrity women's accounts were hacked PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #45

Cahoots? Why does anyone take nude photos and send them to the cloud or the bar down the libdem4life Sep 2014 #46

it's none of your business why. this isn't about you. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #49

Jennifer Lawrence Nude Photo Leak Isn't A "Scandal." It's A Sex Crime. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #47

While I Agree With Almost Everything You Said. . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #66

It is what we quaintly once called "protecting." WinkyDink Sep 2014 #50

If your response to someone having their private photos hacked is gollygee Sep 2014 #51

Maybe use a Kodak instamatic and not a cell phone? notadmblnd Sep 2014 #52

Sometimes truth needs to be said yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #55

You definitely don't put nudes on a cloud server! LittleBlue Sep 2014 #56

The bottom-line reality of the world is this: RandySF Sep 2014 #57

I'm taking down my FB page for this reason. Cleita Sep 2014 #65

If you want to have nude photos taken of yourself The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #67

How about an old fashioned Polaroid. No negatives there either. Cleita Sep 2014 #69

Would you blame me if I left my wallet full of cash on a public sidewalk and it disappeared? randome Sep 2014 #70

I tell people not to keep money in banks in case they are hacked... The Straight Story Sep 2014 #72

Yes. You have a right to private data storage. Yavin4 Sep 2014 #73

Nude pictures get shown around. That's just their nature. JVS Sep 2014 #74

I think it is all projection ... oldhippie Sep 2014 #75

I would encourage people to understand how the cloud works. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #76

I guess it depends. temporary311 Sep 2014 #77

No tazkcmo Sep 2014 #79

Yes. Creeps get off on the fact the pictures are stolen. hunter Sep 2014 #80

should people also not have nice things in their home because there are thieves in the world? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #95

Yes. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #99

It's often a touchy issue when you suggest precautionary measures against victimization. Silent3 Sep 2014 #100

You can take all the naked selfies you want tularetom Sep 2014 #101

That's pretty much where I am with this. Snap away... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #105

Get her mom to say it. Then it's okay. nt lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #104

A dear friend was asked to send nude selfies of herself from the waist up Brickbat Sep 2014 #106

Personally, I would suggest that if she doesn't want to risk exposure, TM99 Sep 2014 #107