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In reply to the discussion: Run, Bernie, Run! [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)155. I don't think those were the ones they remembered when they voted against Carter. Maybe, but I
don't think so. Carter was a one termer. It was too recent. And I certainly don't remember gas lines from the Nixon era.
But then, to listen to Republicans ALL things bad happen under Democrats and Republicans make money rain from Heaven.
True, but to listen to Democrats, ALL bad things happened under Republicans and ALL good things happened under Democrats. As I posted elsewhere, a Democratic poster on another board blamed Reagan for the Bankruptcy Reform Act, knowing (or so she said when I pointed out her mistake) that it actually had been Carter and a Democratic Congress.
So, it works both ways. Or, depending upon your point of view, is dysfunctional both ways. My point of view is that each of the above phenomena work great for professional politicians who are Republicans or Democrats. For the rest of us, not so much.
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He just all but confirmed that he is exploring the possibilty of running for president.
ChisolmTrailDem
Aug 2014
#2
PLEASE, Universe, have him become a Democrat! (Well, he IS what one ought to be already!)
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#5
In a nation where a Purple Heart = cowardice and 9/11 = "kept us safe," does reality matter?
WinkyDink
Aug 2014
#6
I'm sure camp Hillary will try to smear him if they feel he's a threat. That true. eom
Cleita
Aug 2014
#19
No, the "socialist" label will be used to smear Democrats, as it always is. They say Obama is a
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#33
This is our problem. When we refuse to own it, they will continue to make it into a dirty word.
Cleita
Aug 2014
#38
Your daughter-in-law is a reasonable, rational person. The people who accuse Dems of being
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#39
Not all ignorant people are tea baggers. They are misinformed because they weren't taught the
Cleita
Aug 2014
#40
But a "firebrand" is less likely to change minds. Angry politicians tend to turn people off,
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#42
I think Elizabeth Warren could be a successful national candidate, if she had the organization.
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#49
They did the same to Dennis Kucinich and will do the same to Warren if she runs.
Cleita
Aug 2014
#50
Let's not worry so much about what the reThugs will say. Fuck em all. Go Bernie.
JaydenD
Aug 2014
#130
I agree this is a concern and it is what they would use against him in the general. Can we educate
jwirr
Aug 2014
#8
I see what you are saying. Maybe we cannot educated a people who do not want to be educated.
jwirr
Aug 2014
#24
Oh, yes economics is not the only issue. I want to know a lot of other things she things. This world
jwirr
Aug 2014
#36
If we were going to educate people on that, we should have started years ago. n/t
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#43
Probably not in our time now, but I will support him all I can until he withdraws or we have
Dustlawyer
Aug 2014
#55
I do not know who changed his wiki or why, but it does not reflect the reality.
merrily
Aug 2014
#83
Why are you attempting to distance Sanders from his Democratic Socialist belief ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2014
#92
He should embrace it and EDUCATE people what he wants to do. GIVE US A REASON
Vincardog
Aug 2014
#101
I set my sites higher. We need strong leadership in opposition to the Corporate
Vincardog
Aug 2014
#103
Meh. Bernie should stick with his independence. He should not cynically take on a label just for...
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#10
I know what he has to say. He's been saying the same shit for a couple of decades, but his.....
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#17
I've asked that question nearly everytime one of these Bernie/Kooch lovefests get underway.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#29
Was Liebermann running for POTUS on the "Democratic" ticket in that photo op?
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#21
I think he was running for endorser of McCain and Palin at the time, while supporting the decider*.
adirondacker
Aug 2014
#51
Care to elaborate what those amendments were? How many bills has he authored? Naming post....
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#56
"Bernie will wear the exact same "extremist" label that follows Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin,"
adirondacker
Aug 2014
#62
Senator Barack Obama knew what the rest of us knew, that Bernie belongs in....
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#64
"Someone" coulda done that years ago by joining "the party". Joining now just reeks of desparation.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#66
Why would you want him to split the party up and become a pariah like Mr. Nader?
adirondacker
Aug 2014
#67
He should hold true to his values, and his party affiliation. I prefer Bernie leave my party alone.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#68
If Bernie runs as a Dem, he will not do so cynically. I cannot think of a single thing he
merrily
Aug 2014
#84
"Bernie won anyway". That's exactly my point. He ran on his own ticket and his own money.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#100
I don't think that was the point of your prior post, but there's no probem with ANY strategy.
merrily
Aug 2014
#110
It's been "my point" all along. Switching to access Dem dollars & infrastructure is beneath Bernie.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#117
My "principles" weren't at issue. I was born a Democrat, and have never shunned the label.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2014
#119
Everyone, include you, me and Bernie, is entited to his or her own opinion on this matter and
merrily
Aug 2014
#133
Sanders has been around for decades, so his low visibility is more of a factor than it was for Obama
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#30
Bernie did not seek the national spotlight. No reason to assume it will elude him if he seeks it.
merrily
Aug 2014
#85
He'll get a spotlight all right, because the media loves a horserace. But eventually
pnwmom
Aug 2014
#90
Who knows, you may be right. But that was also said about electing a black man. nt
ChisolmTrailDem
Aug 2014
#53
And our punishment is Neo-Liberal centrists or Neo-Con radicals, Both who serve 1%
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2014
#58
Yes, he is a few years older than both Hilary and Warren. None of them is young, though.
merrily
Aug 2014
#87
I know,...to listen to them Libaralism is wildly unpopular because they can cite a poll about Obama.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#63
Funny how the Republicans don't worry about someone being too Conservative.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#71
Exactly. The argument is that we need to go to the Right to follow their success.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#73
If you drop labels and don't try to change minds, USians poll liberal by something like 70%
merrily
Aug 2014
#78
The Republicans blamed the media for the loss of Vietnam and for Watergate....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#137
Oh, no I don't. He was a founding member of the DLC and the first Presidential
merrily
Aug 2014
#141
Obama practically duplicated the Clinton admin team when Obama got into the White house,
merrily
Aug 2014
#146
The DLC used the Dukakis loss and the Clinton win to justify their shifting the party to the right.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#147
You will discover a lot of the folks under Carter were members of the Trilateral Commission.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#152
The Trilateral Commission was dismissed as a conspiracy theory during the Vietnam war...
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2014
#156
I don't think those were the ones they remembered when they voted against Carter. Maybe, but I
merrily
Sep 2014
#155
People voted against Carter because the media was railing about the hostages....
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2014
#158
There was no manditory rationing under Carter. There was panic buying by a hysterical public....
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2014
#162
There were gas lines and a lousy economy and Koppel and media and the hostages and more.
merrily
Sep 2014
#163
True, then Reagan and Daddy Bush spent the next 12 years blaming Carter for everything.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2014
#164
Well sure,...they claimed trickle down didn't work because Carter left them in a hole...
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2014
#166
Meh. In private, when no sane person is around to contradict them, they probably do find a way to
merrily
Sep 2014
#168
In private? They'd like to haul every Democrat out for public execution by hanging for treason.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2014
#172
GAy rights, reproductive rights, opposing Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, health care coverage...
brooklynite
Aug 2014
#104
It isn't 1980 anymore either, though. In the 1990s, Clinton signed DOMA and asked Congress to pass
merrily
Aug 2014
#115
correcting my prior post: USians poll traditional Democrat, as opposed to New Democrat.
merrily
Aug 2014
#134
It is a fact that Obama ran to the left of Hillary and won both the primary and the General--
merrily
Aug 2014
#81
The media also said Obama would be President as soon as he finished his 2004 speech.
merrily
Aug 2014
#89
Matthews had more than a leg tingle over Rudy. Not to mention Bush in a flight suit.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#94
I am all for Bernie running. Whether he wins or loses, people need to hear again what they knew in
merrily
Aug 2014
#79
If he runs, he'll fold quick--he doesn't have the ground organization. And woe to him if he
msanthrope
Aug 2014
#88
He should run, I would vote for him, he would lose the primary but that's fine
Unvanguard
Sep 2014
#167