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redgreenandblue

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19. Probably they see things differently.

Reply to el_bryanto (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:12 PM

Apr 2012

I'd be happy to read their assessment.

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Why do people find it necessary to defend/excuse/deny US imperialism? [View all] redgreenandblue Apr 2012 OP

du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2012 #1

Those who criticize the critics of imperialism hifiguy Apr 2012 #2

LOL! cali Apr 2012 #7

What? hifiguy Apr 2012 #12

You might enjoy this book... drokhole Apr 2012 #30

I'm confused as well. white_wolf Apr 2012 #59

Read Zinn nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #18

Yes, American imperialism was in place long before Marx and ideology named it. freshwest Apr 2012 #38

Ah - well perhaps they see things different than you el_bryanto Apr 2012 #3

In Latin America and the Middle East I think it is pretty obvious. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #5

Again that begs the question el_bryanto Apr 2012 #9

I think with Obama its complicated. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #13

So essentially corrupt - perhaps an understandable corruption el_bryanto Apr 2012 #16

Probably they see things differently. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #19

In this matter I would guess that it's a matter of degree el_bryanto Apr 2012 #22

Actually empire is independent of party or ideology nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #28

He doesn't say it because he will be impeached by the radical "patriots" larkrake Apr 2012 #24

He has to work within the system abelenkpe Apr 2012 #26

Why do you find it necessary to defend/excuse/deny the leader of US imperialism? aikoaiko Apr 2012 #36

Touche. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #37

You're gracious. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #40

eloquently put. think Apr 2012 #4

Impressions don't really mean very much. cali Apr 2012 #6

So what would be a less simplistic assessment? redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #10

Bush did go rogue, in war, in torture, in taking our rights away larkrake Apr 2012 #25

Many governments and countries live comfortably within their borders, bvar22 Apr 2012 #63

It's a bad habit leftover from McCarthyism. "You're either with us or against us" thinking. leveymg Apr 2012 #8

Fascinating ProSense Apr 2012 #11

Imposing sanctions is a step beyond ceasing to support someone. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #14

Well, ProSense Apr 2012 #15

What is wrong with the response? redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #17

Only goes to prove: sometimes, even in spite of ourselves, we do the right thing. leveymg Apr 2012 #27

I missing ProSense Apr 2012 #29

The right thing delayed, as in Rwanda, is the wrong thing to do. Iraq,we never did the right thing leveymg Apr 2012 #52

Korea, Vietnam, Yemen and Kosovo. ieoeja Apr 2012 #43

I almost didn't include Asia, but Vietnam was such a clusterfuck. leveymg Apr 2012 #51

I would say Korea was more than a draw though less than a victory. ieoeja Apr 2012 #54

Ok. Izzy Stone would probably disagree with the "sole policy" bit, but compared to most of leveymg Apr 2012 #56

hmm redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #60

Empires, especially those in decline, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #20

They don't want to feel guilt or shame got root Apr 2012 #21

if we would stop supporting dictators noiretextatique Apr 2012 #23

Because they benefit from it in the short term independentpiney Apr 2012 #31

Lots to look at cademocr Apr 2012 #32

Willful Ignorance... JEB Apr 2012 #33

Because the emperor is a democrat. whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #34

Fear, perhaps? HopelesslyLiberal Apr 2012 #35

Empires don't tell their own people the truth Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #39

^ Nailed It ^ bvar22 Apr 2012 #62

Just wait for a change in party in the White House. obxhead Apr 2012 #41

Not really, it's more that imperialism is used as kind of a "Two Minutes Hate." joshcryer Apr 2012 #42

China and Russia redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #61

Yes I do. joshcryer Apr 2012 #64

Maybe for the same reason many Republicans deny birtherism... ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2012 #44

That will take some time thinking about. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #48

I am more than willing to acknowledge that the U.S. has failed to live up to its standards... ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2012 #55

The USSR played both Germany and the US. See: Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact joshcryer Apr 2012 #53

To get back to your questions: redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #65

This is what is named "The Shadow Government" Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #45

why? because it helps some people sleep better at night. Javaman Apr 2012 #46

Well it's six pages long but I believe the psychological analysis on this thread in the Good Reads Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #47

Thanks for the link. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #49

You're welcome and welcome to D.U. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #50

Simple, it doesnt meet my definition of Imperialism. nt stevenleser Apr 2012 #57

Blame "America"first? Anytime someone pulls that crap on me, I say eridani Apr 2012 #58