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Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:07 PM

Vehl (1,902 posts)

5. lol nice strawman!

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Apple's Agreement with the Big Publishing companies stipulates that none of the eBooks can be sold for less than the price Apple was offering (Publisher price+ Apple's 30%) even if some company wanted to sell it lower.

This is clearly anti-competitive behavior!

I find that (most of the) Apple fans are the ONLY consumer group who are actually PROUD of being ripped off. They spout stuff like "But Apple is the most profitable company". Every-time I see such an argument I have a hard time deciding if I should cry(at their ignorance) or laugh. If a company is making Huge profits...especially when the Profits are based on large profit margins, it means only one thing. The Customer is getting ripped off. I'm yet to see any other large company's customer base feel happy about the extent of Ripoff they undergo.

Imagine us feeling happy that the Gas companies are making so many Billions every time we pump gas at the station? Impossible to imagine such a scenario right? Well, except for Apple fans.

As a recent study found..most Apple customers are more akin to a fundamentalist religious group than regular people

Scientists: Apple makes your brain go all religious

British neuroscientists declare that the brain of an Apple disciple is not dissimilar to those who experience religious devotion.

more here
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20064577-71.html

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64 replies	Author	Time	Post
U.S. Sues Apple, Publishers Over E-Book Pricing [View all]	Vehl	Apr 2012	OP
Ever wonder why Amazon no longer has a monopoly on eBooks?	onehandle	Apr 2012	#1
nice spin, but price fixing is price fixing :)	Vehl	Apr 2012	#2
And Amazon wants to build they empire on the backs of authors and publishers.	onehandle	Apr 2012	#3
lol nice strawman!	Vehl	Apr 2012	#5
They made the same kind of deals with record companies when they introduced itunes.	girl gone mad	Apr 2012	#42
Amazon is leading Direct Publishing.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#18
+1 Direct/Self Publishing is the future, and the Publishing houses dont like that	Vehl	Apr 2012	#28
"On the backs of authors and publishers.." -- you don't know many authors, do you?	X_Digger	Apr 2012	#20
+1, publishing is dying off, very quickly.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#21
Exactly! nt	Vehl	Apr 2012	#29
Heh.	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2012	#24
Damn right it is....	truebrit71	Apr 2012	#14
A little more info from before the suit:	The Straight Story	Apr 2012	#13
illegal ebook downloads are just as prevalent as illegal mp3 downloads	DisgustipatedinCA	Apr 2012	#4
yep	Vehl	Apr 2012	#6
Why not sue Amazon?	frazzled	Apr 2012	#7
The issue is twofold	Vehl	Apr 2012	#8
Examples of your #1?	emulatorloo	Apr 2012	#9
A Game of Thrones	Vehl	Apr 2012	#27
I think the right price is somewhere in the middle	rebecca_herman	Apr 2012	#38
The right price	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2012	#53
Depends on the book/genre/type	Spike89	Apr 2012	#61
Just read this Nation article on Amazon's bullying and illegal practices	frazzled	Apr 2012	#17
Nah, more profit couldn't have had anything to do with it.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#19
Apple wasn't exactly offering generous terms.	girl gone mad	Apr 2012	#39
Yes they were. 100% price control for 30% revenue sharing.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#51
Publishers went to Apple cos they wanted to keep their margins	Vehl	Apr 2012	#30
I wouldn't say they're obsolete	rebecca_herman	Apr 2012	#37
You can have your self-published vanity books	frazzled	Apr 2012	#49
Good quality should not be a barrier to the market place.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#55
Yowza! And I thought Amazon prices (something 90% of paper versions) were bad!	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2012	#23
yep, check post 27	Vehl	Apr 2012	#31
I have both a Kindle and a Kindle Fire ...	spin	Apr 2012	#10
I have an original Kindle and a Fire as well and follow basically the same policy..	truebrit71	Apr 2012	#15
How absurd	rebecca_herman	Apr 2012	#22
I have no problem with your calling e-books, "fake books" ...	spin	Apr 2012	#25
Again, how absurd to assume everyone would feel the same as you do	rebecca_herman	Apr 2012	#26
I Agree	Vehl	Apr 2012	#32
Yep, to each their own	rebecca_herman	Apr 2012	#33
If you have a pc, you can read almost all ebook formats	Vehl	Apr 2012	#34
yeah, I read free short story type books on my computer	rebecca_herman	Apr 2012	#36
This message was self-deleted by its author	seaglass	Apr 2012	#50
Where did I say that I have any problem with your reading dead tree books?	spin	Apr 2012	#43
it's the terminology you use	rebecca_herman	Apr 2012	#44
If you lived in north Florida where I do ...	spin	Apr 2012	#47
The other thing to consider with "dead tree books"	kentauros	Apr 2012	#45
You're like a walking advertisement.	girl gone mad	Apr 2012	#41
Digital readers are not conductive to long attention spans? ...	spin	Apr 2012	#46
It varies by person. However, going out over my students every bit of tech....	Pholus	Apr 2012	#48
I think that is in part a human->computer assimilation.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#59
+1 (Own a Kindle and a Nook myself)	The Straight Story	Apr 2012	#11
Great news. For a split second, I considered the Kindle	ecstatic	Apr 2012	#12
AAPL is toast on this and should have settled long ago	taught_me_patience	Apr 2012	#16
Thank you for posting this!	kentauros	Apr 2012	#35
Thank you! Good blog!	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#52
I just posted there,	kentauros	Apr 2012	#62
wow, DOJ is going after price collusion on E-books...	ibegurpard	Apr 2012	#40
The entire publishing industry needs to be occupied, imho.	OneGrassRoot	Apr 2012	#54
I think we'll have an OPDS + music + games + Bitcoin style setup in the future.	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#56
You're right.	OneGrassRoot	Apr 2012	#57
If you look at media we have iTunes (music), Netflix (video), Amazon (ebooks), Steam (videogames).	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#60
That's actually a pretty cool vision. :)	OneGrassRoot	Apr 2012	#63
As someone who prefers regular hand held books	Xyzse	Apr 2012	#58
An FYI for this thread: Publishers Weekly article	OneGrassRoot	Apr 2012	#64

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