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lunatica

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11. I have imagined all that and more
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:04 AM
Apr 2012

What's his point? That white people can never imagine what it's like? Really?

I can imagine what it's like to feel terror and anguish at all those things. If there's one thing that separates us from the animal kingdom and from human animals it's our imagination. I don't need to actually go through it all to know it's a horrible thing.

Can he imagine what it's like to be a woman who is raped or has to live with that possibility every day of her life? Can he imagine living in constant fear, being married to a man who beats you because the baby was fussy and cried and woke him up? Can he imagine being a child and molested sexually? Jesus! I'm not even scratching the surface of what all people go through.

I think Zimmerman should be locked up Syrinx Apr 2012 #1
I think you miss the point zentrum Apr 2012 #27
Very well said, and underscored by me. nt Mira Apr 2012 #29
Well said and applies to too many of the responses to this article independentpiney Apr 2012 #35
Well said!!! One has to be in the other persons shoes to really understand their RKP5637 Apr 2012 #44
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2012 #79
YES marshall gaines Apr 2012 #94
excellent response, zentrum Carolina Apr 2012 #99
I wish I could mark this as a favorite. Jazzgirl Apr 2012 #112
Excellent post malaise Apr 2012 #172
Sad but very true, unfortunately. AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #195
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #41
Exactly. zentrum Apr 2012 #51
I don't want to trivialize what happened to you Marrah_G Apr 2012 #60
"I made the mistake of walking in a majority black neighborhood..." ieoeja Apr 2012 #78
This is an excellent response! nt independentpiney Apr 2012 #82
"...I made the mistake of walking in a majority black neighborhood, .." Why was this a "mistake"? uponit7771 Apr 2012 #80
Bravo! I doubt it even happened and that the poster who coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #163
Good question Dorian Gray Apr 2012 #200
A lot more black people killed by blacks brush Apr 2012 #91
A lot more black people killed by blacks brush Apr 2012 #92
because they want to divert away from what happened here olderlib Apr 2012 #185
It's not the pervasiveness of guns, either. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #104
that "black on black" mess is just a red herring SemperEadem Apr 2012 #111
Some bad abuse of math in that article... Ka hrnt Apr 2012 #127
ya,... sure... if you say so SemperEadem Apr 2012 #155
Thanks for the article. Interesting stuff, indeed. AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #197
And no one EVER gets robbed in white neighborhoods, right? Erose999 Apr 2012 #170
ugh. the author loses me by lumping ALL white people together cali Apr 2012 #2
+1 Daniel537 Apr 2012 #4
Thank you sarge43 Apr 2012 #8
thank you for putting that so well. cali Apr 2012 #13
true. As soon as you say. "you CAN'T understand" BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2012 #117
+1000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Apr 2012 #46
Well said! nt Raine Apr 2012 #109
Well said. Ka hrnt Apr 2012 #128
I can understand perfectly what he is saying..... secondwind Apr 2012 #20
It's also pintobean Apr 2012 #43
Don't be over-sensitive. You should pay closer attention to what he actually said. kwassa Apr 2012 #174
Ebomy..... Or Ebony? Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #3
Typo malaise Apr 2012 #5
The white privileged class is NOT necessarily ALL white people. fasttense Apr 2012 #6
Good points that need repeating (perhaps in an OP?). Thanks -n/t coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #166
All whites have privilege, regardless of income. kwassa Apr 2012 #171
The Expression "We are All Trayvon Martin" On the Road Apr 2012 #7
That's how I take this article too. obxhead Apr 2012 #30
Yes makes it kind of hard to know what to do Raine Apr 2012 #108
Thank you for this. I'm going to pass it around. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #9
"It is time to stop denying racism and defending White privilege, distracting and deflecting with retread Apr 2012 #10
oh bullshit. Not agreeing with this ill thought out screed does not cali Apr 2012 #15
So you don't deny that you benefit from being white ? independentpiney Apr 2012 #76
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" retread Apr 2012 #159
I have imagined all that and more lunatica Apr 2012 #11
good post. well made point. cali Apr 2012 #17
None of that compares to the horror of being Clarence Thomas. Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #33
Department of Critical Culture, Gender and Race Studies at Washington State University. stonecutter357 Apr 2012 #12
I would say in his defense treestar Apr 2012 #47
I was robbed and pistol whipped... meaculpa2011 Apr 2012 #14
I'm so sorry. AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #196
I don't think he backed off. meaculpa2011 Apr 2012 #202
Thanks for sharing this wellstone dem Apr 2012 #16
Great post. secondwind Apr 2012 #23
The author seems to just want to shame white people because they won't be profiled Daniel537 Apr 2012 #18
Believe me a lot of white people are very ignorant about how bad it is. mucifer Apr 2012 #19
There's plenty of people ignorant about many things in the world Daniel537 Apr 2012 #26
I am a white woman and I did not get the same feeling from the article. mucifer Apr 2012 #28
I woke up only recently myself. nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #198
Acknowledging a problem, an inequity is the first step in long term change. Marrah_G Apr 2012 #39
Sorry but ETHNIC white people are always suspicious of the power structure. slampoet Apr 2012 #21
I cannot believe the responses to this post! When did we secondwind Apr 2012 #22
David Leonard is white n/t malaise Apr 2012 #25
oh for pity's sake. It's just flat wrong to lump any group of people into one stereotype. cali Apr 2012 #31
Why do you feel ashamed of us? lunatica Apr 2012 #32
Actually the article seems to be about what white people cannot feel ... GOTV Apr 2012 #85
Dear David Leonard mactime Apr 2012 #24
Bringing up that 2007 murder is a kneejerk racist reaction independentpiney Apr 2012 #50
Just pointing out the lopsidedness mactime Apr 2012 #54
I think you made his point instead independentpiney Apr 2012 #55
I did not know the point was to list examples of white victimhood mactime Apr 2012 #58
So you dredged up a 5 yr old example of 'white victimhood' independentpiney Apr 2012 #63
Wow did not expect this kind of vitriol mactime Apr 2012 #75
Poor you, you can stop backpedaling independentpiney Apr 2012 #77
I am having some trouble with my memory hfojvt Apr 2012 #34
Playing the "race denial" card on DU Generic Other Apr 2012 #36
Time to pay the piper FrodosPet Apr 2012 #52
Martin luther king would be proud. Muskypundit Apr 2012 #100
Which posts in this thread make either of the first two claims you alledge? GOTV Apr 2012 #86
since mine is post #36, the posts I refer to must have been earlier Generic Other Apr 2012 #90
Yes, if they existed they would have been posted earlier, but since you listed no examples ... GOTV Apr 2012 #105
uh huh Generic Other Apr 2012 #113
Simple to list one. Can't do it? GOTV Apr 2012 #160
I am not interested in being badgered by race baiters Generic Other Apr 2012 #161
Backtracking apology accepted GOTV Apr 2012 #165
The Great White Hope Generic Other Apr 2012 #167
Nice post malaise Apr 2012 #153
Thanks Malaise for posting the thread Generic Other Apr 2012 #162
As a parent, the part of the Trayvon story that hurts and angers me most Greybnk48 Apr 2012 #37
And they had his cell phone malaise Apr 2012 #56
This "I am not Trayvon Martin" meme is just a way for certain white people to pose as "enlightened" aikoaiko Apr 2012 #38
unfortunately the people that need to read this Enrique Apr 2012 #40
But at least some of them will read it here independentpiney Apr 2012 #70
It's Still Easier To Be White Than A Person Of Color In This Country DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #42
Reperations NOW! FrodosPet Apr 2012 #45
Dear Black Folks Aerows Apr 2012 #48
That's my dream malaise Apr 2012 #106
Not very well put, but I agree with parts FightForChange Apr 2012 #49
What a shame... 99Forever Apr 2012 #53
The Argument Is It's Invisible DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #57
you probably cash some in everyday without realising it nt independentpiney Apr 2012 #59
+1000 nt abelenkpe Apr 2012 #98
You misunderstand what the term means Marrah_G Apr 2012 #61
well said, and helpful, Marrah_G. thank you. nt nofurylike Apr 2012 #140
If you have never been arrested for being White, then you are already cashing in your privilege. ieoeja Apr 2012 #62
Well said malaise Apr 2012 #71
Did I defend .. 99Forever Apr 2012 #83
If you actually think that Blacks wouldn't be treated even worse under the same circumstances, then ieoeja Apr 2012 #88
If you want to... 99Forever Apr 2012 #89
Where to cash in? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #67
Okay, I agree. Now what? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #64
I think it's funny that the author references "The Brady Bunch" and gets CINDY wrong. Really. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2012 #65
LOL. The Brady Bunch references jumped out at me too. RZM Apr 2012 #66
Thisis a good and valuable article. Anyone who thinks it is possible to live in another's skin annabanana Apr 2012 #68
uh no. you can be empathetic. BIG Difference. cali Apr 2012 #102
this cannot be clearer Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #69
Some valid points poorly done. JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #72
Its a crying ass shame madokie Apr 2012 #73
+1. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #74
k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #81
the focus should be on zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #84
Honestly I can't imagine except in my nightmares. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #87
When I was a young girl I remember reading a classic book called malaise Apr 2012 #116
I haven't read "Black Like Me" yet. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #119
I just told a co-worker/friend about this book. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #177
He had to leave the South malaise Apr 2012 #187
EXCELLENT marshall gaines Apr 2012 #93
Once again as a white autistic aspieextrodinare Apr 2012 #95
say what? How could your come and kill you tomorrow and not be punished for it? cali Apr 2012 #103
It isn't illegal to kill an autistic like me aspieextrodinare Apr 2012 #132
the point is, if you were also black, you would be more threatened than you are. nofurylike Apr 2012 #143
I have several friends who are both black and on the spectrum aspieextrodinare Apr 2012 #173
as atrocious as that horror is, as indecent as those facts are, things are even more nofurylike Apr 2012 #178
what do you mean non-literal speech? maddezmom Apr 2012 #186
You misunderstand what privilege means Marrah_G Apr 2012 #154
you say it so succintly! i had just posted almost the same, but you put it so directly! nofurylike Apr 2012 #179
You're welcome Marrah_G Apr 2012 #180
So there would be a 96% chance of me never finding meaningful employment aspieextrodinare Apr 2012 #183
K&R DeSwiss Apr 2012 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author americaninohio Apr 2012 #97
oh goody. a live one. cali Apr 2012 #101
I'm half a white folk Tveil Apr 2012 #107
I'm half a white folk too Generic Other Apr 2012 #121
Well said malaise Apr 2012 #146
When you address any racial group as some universal group think mob, you sound racist. Kurska Apr 2012 #110
"it is never okay to lump together the thoughts feelings and experiences of an entire people" Generic Other Apr 2012 #122
This is racist. nt Liquorice Apr 2012 #114
I am not black but that doesn't mean I don't feel your outrage because I do. You should be able southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #115
I think poor white people also get a rotten deal but they can disappear malaise Apr 2012 #118
so true. I hate racists. I just wasn't raised that way. Of course I come from a lower middle southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #120
We weren't allowed to go to slumber parties but there were no issues about race malaise Apr 2012 #123
with all due respect Skittles Apr 2012 #124
Peter? Jan? Bobby? Are all white people the Brady Bunch? Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #125
As a 59 year old WASP, I think I'm going to subscribe. ellie_belly Apr 2012 #126
This article is bull. How does this guy presume to walk in another's shoes... Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #129
"White America is never suspicious." napoleon_in_rags Apr 2012 #130
But you answered your own question malaise Apr 2012 #145
It's harder for middle class black youth, but not true they have no chance.... Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #190
Money just feels like the deepest issue to me. napoleon_in_rags Apr 2012 #191
You can get a pass whenever you want it. Black people don't have that option. kwassa Apr 2012 #192
There are white people in the ghetto, when you look at the bid idea of what it is. napoleon_in_rags Apr 2012 #194
I agree with you about the poverty kwassa Apr 2012 #204
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #131
We'll file this thread as Exhibit #3869 for why racism cannot be discussed on DU. Number23 Apr 2012 #133
I'll file your post under cali Apr 2012 #134
You do whatever you feel you need to do. Number23 Apr 2012 #138
* nofurylike Apr 2012 #136
This thread did nothing but prove StrongBlackMan's point, didn't it? Number23 Apr 2012 #139
yes. i am shaking my head, and all over, from reading it. nofurylike Apr 2012 #141
Trayvon's parents mimi85 Apr 2012 #135
It's so odd that these "new posters" have been violently attacked by Blacks... Walk away Apr 2012 #137
Amazing isn't it malaise Apr 2012 #144
you found words i was searching for, thank you so much, Walk away. nt nofurylike Apr 2012 #147
Ha-ha. Methinks you are on the cusp of a great coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #164
thank you for posting that, malaise. it would, of course, receive fierce resistance, but nofurylike Apr 2012 #142
Cool malaise Apr 2012 #148
* nofurylike Apr 2012 #156
stupid will almost always get pushback from me. cali Apr 2012 #150
aren't you on a fierce roll, cali? why has this gotten to you so badly? nofurylike Apr 2012 #157
I can't understand, but I can empathize. I can care. Scuba Apr 2012 #149
If you are white and you can't see this point, then you are proving it. 6000eliot Apr 2012 #151
Exactly...Folks are blind HipChick Apr 2012 #152
(light coming on)YES!!!! excellent!! in such clear words, thank you so very much, 6000eliot!!! nofurylike Apr 2012 #158
His point is built on a straw man. aikoaiko Apr 2012 #169
His point is that you can't possibly have the same life experience as Trayvon kwassa Apr 2012 #176
exactly nt olderlib Apr 2012 #182
Another crappy article that misses its audience completely... MellowDem Apr 2012 #168
What does "We're all Martin" mean to you? kwassa Apr 2012 #175
it bugs me when whites say 'we're all Martin' olderlib Apr 2012 #184
Great article! olderlib Apr 2012 #181
I don't get it either malaise Apr 2012 #188
thanks! nt olderlib Apr 2012 #189
Fail. Too much 'white people' grouped together here. Zax2me Apr 2012 #193
If I understand this piece correctly, NashvilleLefty Apr 2012 #199
That simple malaise Apr 2012 #201
Wait, Zimmerman is white?! #mindblown. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #203
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