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In the discussion thread: Dear Christian-bashers, here's a big fat target for you: [View all]

Response to mistertrickster (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:18 AM

71. I'm still angry about how people acted during the Tuscon memorial in January 2011

There was a DU live thread during the memorial, and when a Native American Indian prayer was said everybody raved and gushed over how special and beautiful and multicultural it was. Fine, I got no problem with that.

But then God forbid another speaker got up to deliver a Christian prayer and then the angry atheist hornets nest was stirred up. Cheap shots about Christianity being mythology, and God being an "invisible sky daddy" and various other mockery in the thread. Well sorry the memorial was not to your liking, but tough shit.

Some people have a real hard time stomaching that fact-- not an opinion-- but the fact that a majority of Americans are Christian.

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171 replies	Author	Time	Post
Dear Christian-bashers, here's a big fat target for you: [View all]	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	OP
belongs in help and meta	cthulu2016	Apr 2012	#1
No it doesn't.	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#2
Whatever	cthulu2016	Apr 2012	#6
They already tried that yesterday, and it was a massive failure	Electric Monk	Apr 2012	#59
Is the OP praying?	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#150
Ehh...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#3
The Passion of the New Atheists?	The Straight Story	Apr 2012	#12
Wow, do you compare the plight of Jews like Stewart the same way?	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#17
Just someone who would probably fit in well here	The Straight Story	Apr 2012	#33
So now not showing deference to Christians is hate speech?	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#41
Brendan O'Neill?...	SidDithers	Apr 2012	#32
I don't bash real Christians, my mom is one. I do bash intolerant zealots who use Christianity as an	peacebird	Apr 2012	#4
Same here, those that operate under the cloak of religion with their	RKP5637	Apr 2012	#24
Define a real Christian, I take them at their words...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#52
i take them by their deeds.	hobbit709	Apr 2012	#162
Funny factoid	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#5
Classic! nt	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#9
I subscribe to that.	sadbear	Apr 2012	#10
Really. I haven't seen those posts. Here. nt	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#13
What, are we limiting reality to DU posts only?	sadbear	Apr 2012	#14
Apparently you can't state you believe something without providing evidence.	deucemagnet	Apr 2012	#166
Lol.	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#16
Here's a good one from DU3	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#18
The conspiracy lives on!	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#111
Christianity has become part of big politics in the USA..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#7
That's exactly it. Not that it is right or fair to attack someone's beliefs, but that is why.	Chemisse	Apr 2012	#161
Oh, and I do have a problem with Obama on the Office of faith based initiatives...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#8
I have a problem with his faith-based initiative too actually.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#11
I think the point is this, you equate not showing deference for your religious beliefs with...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#19
Not showing deference =	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#34
Not showing deference is attacking beliefs and ideas, particularly bad and foolish...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#46
Just one question: Why is it wrong (or even your business) if people have bad and foolish beliefs	TalkingDog	Apr 2012	#159
Because your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose.	deucemagnet	Apr 2012	#169
Keep the religion out of politics/government and everything will be fine.	neverforget	Apr 2012	#15
I haven't seen those particular posts, but yeah, Christianity is a particular target here	Honeycombe8	Apr 2012	#20
Jesus. So now atheists and agnostics and etc. have to embrace Christian doctrine because	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#21
That's exactly it, we must convert, or shut up...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#26
You don't have to shut up . . .	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#31
Christians don't ridicule atheists? Well, thank Jeebus for that!	provis99	Apr 2012	#35
Show me where DU's people of faith have ridiculed ONE atheist.	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#38
See post #14.	sadbear	Apr 2012	#44
Well this IS DU after all.	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#48
Justifying bad behavior on DU	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#110
Its not ridicule, but the OP threatened to kick my ass. n/t	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#117
How about Creationists, or those who use religion to deny equal rights?	Hugabear	Apr 2012	#73
If they're voting liberal Democrat,	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#75
Really? Even though they may work to undermine some political goal?	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#77
wow	RainDog	Apr 2012	#97
The poster has said alot of questionable things in recent days	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#143
it's pretty interesting how morally void such a pov really is	RainDog	Apr 2012	#146
I dream of the day of ReligionUnderground. Far, far underground.	Tom Ripley	Apr 2012	#144
More Lions.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#167
Yup, that's exactly what I wrote . . .	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#27
I will presume for most here	xfundy	Apr 2012	#91
I think Obama could be an Atheist	Politicalboi	Apr 2012	#22
Right, don't believe what he says.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#25
I said could be	Politicalboi	Apr 2012	#36
Don't judge Christians by the Roman Church.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#51
No True Scotsman.	provis99	Apr 2012	#66
so bashing churches who are against homosexuals is ok by you?	provis99	Apr 2012	#39
Fighting against PEOPLE who bash gays is proper and correct.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#53
Technically both statements are accurate, why is it wrong to point it out? n/t	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#60
he's just making the old No True Scotsman argument.	provis99	Apr 2012	#68
True, I guess when you try to weld your secular morality to thousands of year old texts, it gets...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#69
I didn't post the cartoon ridiculing my belief in Easter.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#76
This is over a cartoon? Why not go out and riot?	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#93
Sounds like you're taking that on faith. nt.	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#113
"No true Sc... ya know the rest"	Tom Ripley	Apr 2012	#23
Oh dear. It must be awful to be the least accepted, trusted and welcomed Americans	dmallind	Apr 2012	#28
and when thou prayest...	OffWithTheirHeads	Apr 2012	#29
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men,	sylvi	Apr 2012	#148
everyone is entitled to their opinion, and non-believers shouldn't be expected to not express theirs	got root	Apr 2012	#30
I totally agree with your opening statement.	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#37
Is this how white people are supposed to feel when black people ridicule them?	sadbear	Apr 2012	#40
The black people who are overwhelmingly Christian? (at least in the US) nt	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#43
I wouldn't know...	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#45
Exactly. It's kind of hard to feel a sense of solidarity	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#42
What mutual goals, you created this thread in a direct response to the righteous...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#50
Also, the cartoon saying that Christian beliefs about	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#55
But they are just as ridiculous, you could have chosen to ignore that thread...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#63
That would be a good topic at a forum dedicated to	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#70
Acceptance of diversity doesn't mean I have to accept bad ideas into my own head...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#74
You don't have to believe them. You have to tolerate them.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#79
Bad analogy, that's about people, not ideas, I don't tolerate bad ideas, I may tolerate the people..	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#87
WTF.....................	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#141
Persecuted Christian steps into	JoeyT	Apr 2012	#142
Not all gays engage in anal sex and plenty of straights do.	Hissyspit	Apr 2012	#145
Nice debating skills, pops.	UnrepentantLiberal	Apr 2012	#149
FAIL	mtnester	Apr 2012	#154
You just replied to a non-specific reference to diversity with an offensive, overbroad	pacalo	Apr 2012	#155
I honestly want to believe that your debating skills are so bad that what you write is NOT	idwiyo	Apr 2012	#157
Sorry Christianity has some pretty strange shit in it	Gore1FL	Apr 2012	#114
i see many groups picked on here	got root	Apr 2012	#49
What is hateful about ridicule? Particularly since its generally limited to ideas and beliefs...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#58
LOLOL	Skittles	Apr 2012	#47
Fart noises.	Solly Mack	Apr 2012	#54
I don't care what his professed faith might be and it has nothing to do with his ability to govern	RainDog	Apr 2012	#56
Well most people in GD hate President Obama as well so might not be the best example	RFKHumphreyObama	Apr 2012	#57
I'm fine with Christians as individuals and people.	NYC Liberal	Apr 2012	#61
This agnostic agrees with you	SpartanDem	Apr 2012	#62
Exactly right. You got it. nt	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#64
The first quote you mention is a peronal broad brush, and went too far...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#67
Well good, Agnostics can make	JoeyT	Apr 2012	#138
Whoa...When you put it like that...	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#160
Funny...	WiffenPoof	Apr 2012	#65
I'm still angry about how people acted during the Tuscon memorial in January 2011	bluestateguy	Apr 2012	#71
obama conveniently ignores his christian beliefs..he is no role model in that regard. nt	msongs	Apr 2012	#72
How? n/t	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#78
Like when he publicly confesses his Christianity? nt	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#80
Huh, how does Obama ignore his Christian beliefs? You need to go back to freeperville seriously!!	Obamacare	Apr 2012	#84
When "Christians" stop trying to make me live	TriMera	Apr 2012	#81
The fact that the Roman Church calls itself Christian	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#85
Aren't you now bashing the Catholic Church?	Hugabear	Apr 2012	#88
Hateful acts done in the name of religion should be condemned.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#92
Why not? Islam is a religion that encourages violence to defend God, martyrdom, and misogyny...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#95
But the Roman Catholic Church is Christian, just like all other...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#90
see edit	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#98
Doesn't help, there's nothing in Christianity that forbids them from acting hateful...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#101
Yes, I realize that there are Christians fighting	TriMera	Apr 2012	#96
Right....... the bad Catholics, the bad Pentacostals, but YOUR version, that version is benevolent	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#135
I'll bite. Pronouncements of religious faith in American politics are primarily disingenuous.	DirkGently	Apr 2012	#82
I agree with that . . .	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#89
I have several major problems with that guy	whatchamacallit	Apr 2012	#83
It there a point to this thread other than to stir up trouble? nm	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#86
Asking people to show respect for one another	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#94
You are confusing respect for people with lack of reverence for religious beliefs...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#99
This message was self-deleted by its author	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#100
LOL	sadbear	Apr 2012	#102
I love it, I mock your beliefs, you threaten my physical being...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#103
No threat. Just an observation of fact. nt	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#105
"I bet I can kick your ass", I don't understand why you even had to point that out...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#106
That explains a lot actually . . . nt	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#108
So you concede you are the bully?	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#109
I regret that post actually. I publicly apologize.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#128
Apology accepted...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#133
yet above, you condemn other Christians for their beliefs.	provis99	Apr 2012	#104
Oppps it was a self-deletesiiee!!	Rex	Apr 2012	#107
His OP had no real function other than to berate people to show reverence for his religion...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#118
there was a troll on DU a while back	RainDog	Apr 2012	#120
I wouldn't call the OP a troll, or even trollish, they simply don't understand that...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#123
maybe it's because you can defend your beliefs with facts n/t	RainDog	Apr 2012	#129
I guess he could attempt to bash Humanism, though I really am amused as to how that would look...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2012	#134
Will you delete this post also?	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#136
So pointing out hypocrisy is now an attempt to "stir up trouble"?	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#124
Apparently even quoting the Bible can be considered "bashing Christians"	Hugabear	Apr 2012	#125
This is the second off topic wrong forum try by the op.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#168
I understand where you are coming from, and apologize for others slighting your beliefs.	rufus dog	Apr 2012	#112
Great post!	kentauros	Apr 2012	#126
You know, there are places where they charge you for persecution on demand. nt	sudopod	Apr 2012	#115
More bullshit to distract us from our fight against the Plutocracy.	Zalatix	Apr 2012	#116
Actually that was what I had in mind.	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#119
If the religious would keep their religion(s) out of politics..	Fumesucker	Apr 2012	#132
when religions stop using their beliefs to attack women, homosexuals and science	RainDog	Apr 2012	#147
Is this a joke?	TransitJohn	Apr 2012	#121
Only 12 Recs?	sadbear	Apr 2012	#122
...	Lost-in-FL	Apr 2012	#127
Nice. Now do you have a cartoon that actually shows	mistertrickster	Apr 2012	#130
Really? Allow me a few samples.	Lost-in-FL	Apr 2012	#139
Like I told you in the other thread: Christians are not oppressed, they are not victims	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#131
Oh good, another Christian that has a sad.	JoeyT	Apr 2012	#137
"Strangely enough, any of the other four would instantly be shot down by most liberal Christians,	Egalitarian Thug	Apr 2012	#153
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false	teknomanzer	Apr 2012	#140
Really good. Yours? n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Apr 2012	#151
Translation: To all you non-x-tians, F U! we're in charge and there's nothing you can do about it.	Egalitarian Thug	Apr 2012	#152
I well remeber that speech.	Mimosa	Apr 2012	#156
The fact that you've trotted out this list as, presumably, slamdunk examples of "bashing", says alot	Warren DeMontague	Apr 2012	#158
Great post	Marrah_G	Apr 2012	#170
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#163
Who would Jesus kill ...	GeorgeGist	Apr 2012	#164
Poor picked upon, persecuted Christians	MadHound	Apr 2012	#165
locking	maddezmom	Apr 2012	#171

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