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Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #1
Not that anyone said that treestar Apr 2012 #2
Actually, you did say we should accept a lower standard of living. Zalatix Apr 2012 #3
How is that last sentence going to happen? treestar Apr 2012 #6
How do you explain your hatred of American workers? Zalatix Apr 2012 #9
How is your last sentence, in your previous post going to happen? treestar Apr 2012 #32
"When made here, the cost will be such that only the 1% can afford them. Get real. " Occulus Apr 2012 #50
Treestar should have been around to tell that to Henry Ford. Zalatix Apr 2012 #52
It's not working any more treestar Apr 2012 #161
Free trade isn't working anymore. Zalatix Apr 2012 #165
You're not strong on history, are you? Zalatix Apr 2012 #51
someone sure is frothing, that's for sure... dionysus May 2012 #193
Someone's backed very far into a corner. Zalatix May 2012 #194
if you are proud of that low rent browbeating... dionysus May 2012 #196
The dwindling number of free traders are browbeating themselves with their own lame arguments. Zalatix May 2012 #197
Oh, COME on. That's patently silly. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #57
Sorry but the free traders have left with their tail between their legs. Zalatix Apr 2012 #60
Indeed. Marr Apr 2012 #110
The factories moved there due to cheaper labor treestar Apr 2012 #160
And our wages are lower, too, why do you keep forgetting that part? Zalatix Apr 2012 #190
Well I don't know the solution treestar Apr 2012 #191
Americans will pay a higher price for things. They have no choice. Zalatix May 2012 #195
Yeah right abelenkpe Apr 2012 #66
Right on point Abel...! happerbolic Apr 2012 #68
You are superbly out of touch with reality. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #150
Treestar, I understand what you're saying. Doremus Apr 2012 #192
Is it xenophobia to think companies that go to other countries.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #140
No, I would support that treestar Apr 2012 #143
xenophobia sudopod Apr 2012 #157
LOL!!! Fell out of my chair laughing. Zalatix Apr 2012 #184
America's standard of living has declined drastically since the 1970s Mimosa Apr 2012 #163
Imports are okay, as long as: KamaAina Apr 2012 #71
Well said, it seems Treestar wants to argue the straw man point Zalatix Apr 2012 #73
They are repeating their John Birtch Society talking points against anything that might RB TexLa Apr 2012 #4
And you are repeating your hatred for America talking points Zalatix Apr 2012 #5
We have millions of non-citizens working here. dkf Apr 2012 #106
It's the old limited pie theory treestar Apr 2012 #7
Yes, anything a forigner has they stole from an American RB TexLa Apr 2012 #8
People who defend sending American jobs overseas are sick-minded. Zalatix Apr 2012 #11
Wow, you argue just like a right winger treestar Apr 2012 #24
You argue just like the Chamber of Commerce and the Heritage Foundation. Zalatix Apr 2012 #49
Huh? treestar Apr 2012 #90
What IS your beef with American workers? We don't steal Swedish jobs. We don't steal anyone's jobs. Zalatix Apr 2012 #93
So if a foreign company invests here treestar Apr 2012 #117
Again you don't understand what a trade deficit means. Zalatix Apr 2012 #122
If a company invests here, it's to sell to OUR market, not to their own Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #145
You're not very good at this. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #158
You're never going to stop their longing for the 1800's These are the same people who hate RB TexLa Apr 2012 #77
increasing homelessness = progress? decreasing wages in the face of rising costs = progress? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #80
Your definition of progress is impoverishing American workers. Zalatix Apr 2012 #91
Yes, I wonder where they were when jobs moved from one state to another treestar Apr 2012 #92
Foolish, stupid, brainless argument. I can move to NC. I can't move to China. Zalatix Apr 2012 #96
so do you. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #79
Why your sick-minded hatred of America is on its way out Zalatix Apr 2012 #13
The limited pie theory is true. We are losing jobs here. And you want to keep it that way. Zalatix Apr 2012 #10
It is false and dumb treestar Apr 2012 #28
Why don't you tell our homeless kids that they need to lower their standard of living? Zalatix Apr 2012 #30
Why don't you answer my point? treestar Apr 2012 #33
You have no point, except "Bleed America dry". Zalatix Apr 2012 #46
Answer the question treestar Apr 2012 #118
You STILL have no point, except "Bleed America dry of jobs". That has always been your point. Zalatix Apr 2012 #123
Globalization has WORSENED the lot of the urban poor in India Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #146
The globalists always ignore this point. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #151
Right.... HiPointDem Apr 2012 #82
I see you fled in terror from the prospect of explaining your Anti-America views to homeless kids Zalatix Apr 2012 #12
Notice the ones arguing with you never offer their own jobs up to be sent overseas? NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #17
Damned well said. And you'll REALLY never get a response to that. Zalatix Apr 2012 #19
They can have my job treestar Apr 2012 #29
Bullshit. Why don't you quit your job now? A worker in China needs it. Zalatix Apr 2012 #34
OK so you also advocate that no jobs come to the US from another country, right? treestar Apr 2012 #36
Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahah do you even understand basic economics? Seriously? Zalatix Apr 2012 #42
What a lot of nonsense you've just posted there treestar Apr 2012 #84
We do not gain jobs. We have a net LOSS of jobs. Your argument is bullshit. Zalatix Apr 2012 #88
Gain jobs? Why don't you tell the liberalhistorian Apr 2012 #105
*Crickets* Zalatix Apr 2012 #113
Who are you to decide the time frame in which someone should answer? treestar Apr 2012 #119
Your hatred for American workers is showing again. Zalatix Apr 2012 #121
No one is blaming non-citizens. We are blaming liberalhistorian Apr 2012 #131
You didn't mention what your job is before pulling the "illegal alien", card NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #43
Why does it matter? treestar Apr 2012 #86
Far more jobs move abroad than jobs come in. FACT. Your argument is outright ridiculous. Zalatix Apr 2012 #89
Poster has said he/she is an attorney brentspeak Apr 2012 #107
You're absolutely correct..... n/t OhioChick Apr 2012 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Apr 2012 #136
If that is true, then it's tantamount to an untruth for him/her to claim closeupready Apr 2012 #139
"The clothing industry had illegal aliens - when it became harder to employ them HiPointDem Apr 2012 #83
So did you miss employer sanctions? treestar Apr 2012 #87
Did you miss that most of the textile industry moved overseas long before employer sanctions? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #97
Have you read Naomi Klein's books? Mimosa Apr 2012 #171
Nor will they ever say what the "Next Big Thing" is that will replace the outgoing jobs. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #41
Oh, don't be so narrow minded. LOL the next big thing is "somewhere over the rainbow." Zalatix Apr 2012 #44
Maybe it's "Pot O Gold" mining? HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #58
Hold up, according to Treestar, Pot-O-Gold mining should be done by illegals Zalatix Apr 2012 #59
"We should train our kids for the jobs of tomorrow" kenny blankenship Apr 2012 #78
Of course not. They see themselves as unexpendable. PassingFair Apr 2012 #54
I remember during little boots newspeak Apr 2012 #14
A global workers' union would work, too. Zalatix Apr 2012 #22
I've been saying that for 15 years abelenkpe Apr 2012 #69
People are homeless or starving all over the world treestar Apr 2012 #40
Wow, your arguments are loaded with hate for America, and hatred for logic, too. Zalatix Apr 2012 #45
Easy resort to that treestar Apr 2012 #116
Those are the facts. You have nothing but disdain for American workers. Zalatix Apr 2012 #124
"And people have sales jobs here...there are people working at the stores here." PassingFair Apr 2012 #62
"Basic understanding of the economy dictates that this stuff is about xenophobia or... resentment" HiPointDem Apr 2012 #94
Treestar just makes up these things as excuses for his hatred of US workers. Zalatix Apr 2012 #95
What a ridiculous post. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #152
It's not mysterious when the american worker is training the Indian replacment. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #23
He can mitigate his guilt by giving his job to a Chinese or Indian worker. Zalatix Apr 2012 #26
Some people have a naive belief that their personal wellbeing is insulated from their countrymen. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #35
Yup, until people can no longer afford college or those humanities classes. Zalatix Apr 2012 #39
Really, the globalists should really volunteer to give up their own jobs Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #138
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Zalatix Apr 2012 #141
You are advocating for homeless Chinese children to stay that way treestar Apr 2012 #31
I am advocating for homeless children to be given a home by parents who have jobs Zalatix Apr 2012 #37
I fully support an indian go to an indian college to become an indian engineer. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #38
But according to treestar: "Save the third world, keep Americans unemployed". Zalatix Apr 2012 #47
The irony is that developing countries are highly dependent on selling stuff to us. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #53
Treestar will NEVER address this basic fact. Zalatix Apr 2012 #55
Me too abelenkpe Apr 2012 #72
China can sell to the billions of Chinese. FredStembottom Apr 2012 #56
"It then suppresses internal Chinese demand" +1 HiPointDem Apr 2012 #99
"Homeless Chinese children" Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #144
More that the ruling class is taking bigger and bigger pieces, locally & globally. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #98
You know, it's one thing to see Third Way types drag their Marr Apr 2012 #111
No, RB, I want to see foreign workers paid wages that allow them to Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #135
You want to limit markets and limit the world. You want the world to be a bigger place where people RB TexLa Apr 2012 #154
No, I don't want to facilitate exploitation Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #155
You want to keep American workers unemployed. That's sad. Zalatix Apr 2012 #185
Our taxpayer funded World Police Force exists in order to protect the global Zorra Apr 2012 #70
Most excellent post Oilwellian Apr 2012 #100
I'm very glad Zorra Apr 2012 #129
I could hug your post. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #104
I meant to tell you earlier, Starry - Zorra Apr 2012 #130
This definitely needs to be its own diary. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #127
Dayum. Can I nominate this for the best of DU? Zalatix Apr 2012 #128
Sure. And thank you for the OP. Zorra Apr 2012 #132
Fantastic post. Please consider making it an OP. n/t myrna minx Apr 2012 #169
Yes, that is what I was always hoping for. Why do others have to be worse off so we can be better? gtar100 Apr 2012 #85
We can do both, but we have to get Republicans out of power... gulliver Apr 2012 #15
Stopping Republicans won't be far enough in the end. It'll only slow down our demise. Zalatix Apr 2012 #16
Stopping Republicans will do it. gulliver Apr 2012 #18
I'm just afraid the free traitors might decide to bribe Democrats once we kick the Republicans out. Zalatix Apr 2012 #20
Have a little faith in your fellow Democrats. gulliver Apr 2012 #25
Why? It was Clinton who signed NAFTA Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #137
It's not enough. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #27
Flood the Congress with Democrats. Rid it of Republicans. gulliver Apr 2012 #81
Actually, we would need to replace all the Republicans with Bernie Sanders-type Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #147
K&R varelse Apr 2012 #21
Correction guitar man Apr 2012 #48
^^ +1 ^^ rucky Apr 2012 #63
That's the real reasoning. pa28 Apr 2012 #65
Help the rest of the world? Iggo Apr 2012 #61
Free trade can be a good thing. raouldukelives Apr 2012 #64
That is not free trade according to the freetraders. TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #108
This cycle repeats itself over and over and over abelenkpe Apr 2012 #67
Correction; They believe that your standard of living should be crushed Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #74
"When... trade agreements that are...mutually beneficial are proposed, they...oppose them" +1 HiPointDem Apr 2012 #102
So there were no homeless children before free trade? mythology Apr 2012 #75
If other nations have caught up, then they don't need to take our jobs, right? Zalatix Apr 2012 #76
You think countries own jobs? The concept of countries is quickly moving to the ash bin of history RB TexLa Apr 2012 #109
Absolute bullshit, and you have no facts to back that up. Zalatix Apr 2012 #112
What people do you think are not your people? Your people are only those in your country? RB TexLa Apr 2012 #114
You really like excluding American workers, don't you? You HATE that we FIGHT BACK Zalatix Apr 2012 #126
They are not excluded, Americans are part of the world like everyone else. RB TexLa Apr 2012 #153
Yes, American workers ARE being excluded from the global workforce. Zalatix Apr 2012 #156
I do not hate anyone. There is no reason to make up lies about a stranger on an internet blog. RB TexLa Apr 2012 #178
Yes you do. All you talk about is how we have to give up our jobs or else we're racist. Zalatix Apr 2012 #179
No one owns jobs. They are not a possession. And I do not hate anyone, there is no reason for RB TexLa Apr 2012 #180
I made up no lies about you. You need to take responsibility for what you've said. Zalatix Apr 2012 #181
A job is not a possession. Neither countries or people own jobs. That is just silly RB TexLa Apr 2012 #182
Once again, countries DO own jobs. Stop being naive. Zalatix Apr 2012 #183
I do not hate anyone. I have told you this. Are you not able to read? I really don't understand RB TexLa Apr 2012 #186
Hey, lie to yourself but don't expect to get away with lying to ME. Zalatix Apr 2012 #187
Wow, so you plan to memorize a stranger's user name on an internet message board RB TexLa Apr 2012 #188
Let's see, which major mental malfunction are you suffering from? Zalatix Apr 2012 #189
The fact that you keep ignoring is that we have made previous commitments to our citizens NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #133
*Crickets* I'll answer: RB TexLA doesn't care. Hence, no answer. Zalatix Apr 2012 #142
US "standard of living" (for some) is still built on taking over territory and resources. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #101
There were far fewer, and fewer still before the crazy took over in 1981. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #103
Rec n/t OhioChick Apr 2012 #120
Start by lowering CEO salaries. n/t ChromeFoundry Apr 2012 #125
Since free traders are afraid to bring their message to our homeless kids, how about this guy? Zalatix Apr 2012 #134
A lot of whoring for the free market in here whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #148
You sound confused NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #149
Cue the Twilight Zone music Mimosa Apr 2012 #164
Funny, the pro-offshoring arguments are alarmingly similar to what the US Chamber of Commerce says Zalatix Apr 2012 #166
Yeah, there seems to be a real shift happening whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #170
Reduce the trade deficit; increase GDP & median wage Supposn Apr 2012 #159
The American government should focus on Americans chrisa Apr 2012 #162
"We need jobs," you say. "Why," I ask? ieoeja Apr 2012 #167
Your post makes no sense at all. liberalhistorian Apr 2012 #168
Why? ieoeja Apr 2012 #176
Because such things cost money liberalhistorian Apr 2012 #177
I imagine that recognizing national borders LanternWaste Apr 2012 #172
I also imagine that all our food will be made by replicators Zalatix Apr 2012 #173
I imagine food may be grown despite the existence or non-existence LanternWaste Apr 2012 #174
Your dream of a borderless society is never, ever going to happen. Deal with it. Zalatix Apr 2012 #175
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