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csziggy

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83. So if Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle how did he end up shooting Martin
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 02:32 PM
Apr 2012

over a 100 feet AWAY from the road where his vehicle could have been?

NONE of the stories attributed to Zimmerman match where Trayvon's body was laying when the police arrived.



Trayvon's body was found behind the building marked with the "A", close, but not on the sidewalk.

Zimmerman's first story to police was that he was looking for a street sign when Trayvon jumped him. There are no intersections where there would be street signs anywhere near where the body was lying, much less near the closest approach to that point where Zimmerman could have left his car.

His second story (from his father's statements) was that he was looking for street numbers. There are no street numbers on the BACKS of the townhouses.

It's 130 feet from the street at the curve in the road to the intersection of the sidewalk to get to where the body was. It's over 90 feet from the other road to the same point. Accounts and estimates available to the public vary on the exact location of the body up that sidewalk but the distance is between 30 and 90 feet.

So George Zimmerman was between 120 and 220 feet away from his vehicle when he shot Trayvon Martin. How did Zimmerman get that far away from his car if he was NOT stalking Martin?

Between those FACTS and the information from the audio experts that it was most likely Trayvon Martin's voice on the 911 recording begging "Help me" for over 40 seconds, I believe George Zimmerman is a murderer.

I do want Zimmerman to have a trial. That means he must be arrested and charged with his crime. That is all the Martin family has been asking since their first press conference.

Fortunately it is the "many" that feel the same way as you do. nt Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #1
I think you know the answer to your question! Killing anyone in cold blood and using a f**k** up teddy51 Apr 2012 #2
It seems to go against Common English Law Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #7
These laws are indeed a perversion of common law nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #13
Right on... plus... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #25
How do you want to "rein it in"? Specifics, please. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #47
Sure... sensible gun regs... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #60
Thank you for being so specific, it's appreciated. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #70
... then "self defense" wouldn't always be lethal.".............. socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #59
Exactly right! Thx for saying more clearly... nt Joseph8th Apr 2012 #63
I dont think the mere posession of a gun rrneck Apr 2012 #78
Stand Your Ground was drafted by ALEC, not in good faith csziggy Apr 2012 #80
i think we should change the acronym barbtries Apr 2012 #90
Yup, many of us feel this way nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #3
I know Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #8
What is happening here is that the corporate right wing has control Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #4
No... the system is working (at least so far) -..__... Apr 2012 #5
I just don't understand how anyone couldn't be outraged at what happened to Trayvon. Obamacare Apr 2012 #6
+1 Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #28
what I find stranger, is how obsessed Canadians are with the issue. provis99 Apr 2012 #9
Well think about it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #11
A long and mostly undefended and even unwatched ........... socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #61
Maybe they thought that they were like us. hay rick Apr 2012 #15
I wouldn't say "obsession" Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #26
people also need to look at their own communities annm4peace Apr 2012 #10
Locally we have at least four hate groups. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #12
Ohhhh.... yeahhh... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #46
The killing of Trayvon Martin was horrible. amandabeech Apr 2012 #14
And what do we do with Zimmerman? -..__... Apr 2012 #17
Love it!! Remember how... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #64
Well said Meiko Apr 2012 #48
Thank you! n/t amandabeech Apr 2012 #86
The reason the family went to Al Sharpton and brought the case to the media csziggy Apr 2012 #82
The greed of corporation interests put ahead of individuals... timesup Apr 2012 #16
I am embarrassed about a poll I saw tonight... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #18
That first point, "nationalism". That was something the folk schools in Denmark jtuck004 Apr 2012 #21
What about the 14 points? MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #54
Maybe the problem is that people always, incorrectly, think of Nazi Germany jtuck004 Apr 2012 #81
2 separate police shootings in Austin today Blort Apr 2012 #19
Lets wait to the facts are all in before we say a white guy hunted doc03 Apr 2012 #20
Yeah, a white guy twice as big and ten years older than this kid EFerrari Apr 2012 #22
the pasadana case mactime Apr 2012 #23
shoot first, ask questions later Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #30
Bullshit. EFerrari Apr 2012 #38
You don't think it is possible a young wiry guy 10 years younger and 6' 3" could doc03 Apr 2012 #34
adrenalin starts flowing when you are in self defense mode and Whisp Apr 2012 #42
Bottom line is don't rush to judgement before the facts are known, That's what doc03 Apr 2012 #37
There is no scenario in which Zimmerman shooting Martin is right. EFerrari Apr 2012 #39
thank you barbtries Apr 2012 #91
you got to be shitting us. Whisp Apr 2012 #43
I've been saying the same thing shadowrider Apr 2012 #73
? Twice as big ? Martin 6'2", 160, Zimmerman, 5'9", 170 shadowrider Apr 2012 #49
Wow, Zimmerman keeps losing weight and Martin keeps gaining weight mainer Apr 2012 #50
In the video of Zimmerman arriving at the police station doc03 Apr 2012 #53
Zimmerman was described as 200 pounds mainer Apr 2012 #56
He could have just as well been on foot returning to his vehicle and doc03 Apr 2012 #57
So if Zimmerman was returning to his vehicle how did he end up shooting Martin csziggy Apr 2012 #83
Early reports had him at 250. shadowrider Apr 2012 #68
According to the police report (Link included) shadowrider Apr 2012 #71
The autopsy will give us Trayvon's weight mainer Apr 2012 #74
Agreed shadowrider Apr 2012 #87
Well, that's true Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #24
Once arrested there are 175 days to charge Zimmerman. That means 175 days to find evidence beyond dkf Apr 2012 #35
Well, let's not rush into anything, then Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #40
Nope because Florida has this specific 175 day law which doesn't seem to be the norm. dkf Apr 2012 #44
Not enough evidence? ROFL. Now THAT is the absurdity of which the OP was speaking. n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #76
sorry, nope, it isnt consuming anything pasto76 Apr 2012 #27
Really? Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #29
It consumed the news cycle for awhile. bigwillq Apr 2012 #33
Oh really? Then what do you have to say about Oklahoma this morning? lonestarnot Apr 2012 #55
Oh really what? bigwillq Apr 2012 #65
Here let me help you out. You don't even have to turn on the TV box. DU has it all! As always. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #66
Thanks for the link. bigwillq Apr 2012 #67
It highlights the divide in the U.S. rufus dog Apr 2012 #31
the united states of insanity spanone Apr 2012 #32
I know it hurts now... Americana Apr 2012 #36
I don't understand the whole "tears on his face" thing. Trayvon's own father cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #41
The patients are in charge of this asylum we call our country. Cleita Apr 2012 #45
What I can't believe is that there are ZM defenders on DU mainer Apr 2012 #51
I haven't seen any Zimmerman defenders here. At least not in GD. Kaleva Apr 2012 #62
You haven't seen ANY Zimmerman defenders on DU? mainer Apr 2012 #69
And you might want to look at my posting history on this subject. Kaleva Apr 2012 #75
I've been following your posts on numerous Trayvon threads mainer Apr 2012 #77
So, what di you think of my thread that I gave you a link to? Kaleva Apr 2012 #79
I live in Georgia, and you should see all the Facebook ecstatic Apr 2012 #52
The Internet disagrees slackmaster Apr 2012 #58
Oh the "system" is working just fine. mzteris Apr 2012 #72
I think the problem is the rush to label it racism. agenda 21. Apr 2012 #84
There is no doubt he has violence/impulse/aggression issues cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #92
Here's another one: Americans set up torture camps and nothing is done about it just1voice Apr 2012 #85
Tens of millions of Americans have lost their mind: the proof lies in what they say, what they do, indepat Apr 2012 #88
yeah, it's pretty whack. barbtries Apr 2012 #89
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